1 00:00:34,709 --> 00:00:17,240 [Music] 2 00:00:39,350 --> 00:00:36,389 what's happening ladies and gentlemen 3 00:00:42,069 --> 00:00:39,360 welcome to the first ever episode of the 4 00:00:43,430 --> 00:00:42,079 ufo garage podcast but with big willy on 5 00:00:45,029 --> 00:00:43,440 the weekends 6 00:00:46,950 --> 00:00:45,039 hopefully i don't disappoint too many of 7 00:00:49,110 --> 00:00:46,960 you i know joe and ben are dearly 8 00:00:51,670 --> 00:00:49,120 beloved by each and every one of us so 9 00:00:53,590 --> 00:00:51,680 i'm excited honored and thrilled to be 10 00:00:55,990 --> 00:00:53,600 able to represent them on the weekends 11 00:00:58,069 --> 00:00:56,000 so now that i've got that out of the way 12 00:00:59,510 --> 00:00:58,079 um we're going to be jumping into as 13 00:01:01,990 --> 00:00:59,520 we've been talking about leading up to 14 00:01:03,990 --> 00:01:02,000 this cern and what all that has like 15 00:01:07,190 --> 00:01:04,000 what all that entails and it's very 16 00:01:08,630 --> 00:01:07,200 complex and uh there's a lot to it 17 00:01:10,550 --> 00:01:08,640 depending on how you want to approach it 18 00:01:12,390 --> 00:01:10,560 from just a pure scientific manner or if 19 00:01:14,710 --> 00:01:12,400 you want to go with the religious and 20 00:01:16,310 --> 00:01:14,720 symbolic 21 00:01:17,990 --> 00:01:16,320 symbols that seem to be mixed all 22 00:01:20,310 --> 00:01:18,000 throughout there i personally think it's 23 00:01:22,310 --> 00:01:20,320 kind of a combination too but because i 24 00:01:24,469 --> 00:01:22,320 don't know enough about this subject and 25 00:01:26,390 --> 00:01:24,479 i recognize my own ignorance in it as it 26 00:01:28,550 --> 00:01:26,400 were we're bringing somebody on who's 27 00:01:30,149 --> 00:01:28,560 actually spent quite a bit of time and 28 00:01:30,950 --> 00:01:30,159 looking into this and just researching 29 00:01:32,550 --> 00:01:30,960 it 30 00:01:34,390 --> 00:01:32,560 which is jess but before we bring on 31 00:01:36,630 --> 00:01:34,400 jess i just want to give you guys a 32 00:01:38,230 --> 00:01:36,640 little bit of a background on who and 33 00:01:39,990 --> 00:01:38,240 what cern is so i don't want to read too 34 00:01:41,429 --> 00:01:40,000 much because that is boring and we're 35 00:01:43,030 --> 00:01:41,439 not about that here 36 00:01:45,270 --> 00:01:43,040 but just really quick 37 00:01:47,270 --> 00:01:45,280 if you go to wikipedia because come on 38 00:01:48,789 --> 00:01:47,280 that's right that's rock solid evidence 39 00:01:50,310 --> 00:01:48,799 right there everybody knows wikipedia is 40 00:01:52,389 --> 00:01:50,320 the way to go in this in this world that 41 00:01:53,190 --> 00:01:52,399 brings us all all the information we 42 00:01:54,630 --> 00:01:53,200 need 43 00:01:56,870 --> 00:01:54,640 um but just a couple of little things 44 00:01:59,350 --> 00:01:56,880 we'll mention uh is the european 45 00:02:01,910 --> 00:01:59,360 organization for nuclear research 46 00:02:03,670 --> 00:02:01,920 organization um or that's in french 47 00:02:05,030 --> 00:02:03,680 man i guess i should have pre-read this 48 00:02:07,030 --> 00:02:05,040 first i realized i didn't read it in 49 00:02:09,190 --> 00:02:07,040 french for you guys uh derived from the 50 00:02:11,110 --> 00:02:09,200 council uh name 51 00:02:12,790 --> 00:02:11,120 and french that i can't pronounce is a 52 00:02:15,030 --> 00:02:12,800 european research organization that 53 00:02:18,070 --> 00:02:15,040 operates the largest particle physicist 54 00:02:21,030 --> 00:02:18,080 physicist or physics laboratory in the 55 00:02:23,190 --> 00:02:21,040 world it was established in 1954 and the 56 00:02:25,110 --> 00:02:23,200 organization is based in a northwest 57 00:02:27,750 --> 00:02:25,120 suburb of geneva 58 00:02:30,070 --> 00:02:27,760 on the franco-swiss border and has 23 59 00:02:32,070 --> 00:02:30,080 member states israel is the only 60 00:02:33,350 --> 00:02:32,080 non-european country granted full 61 00:02:35,350 --> 00:02:33,360 membership 62 00:02:36,790 --> 00:02:35,360 cern is an official united nations 63 00:02:39,270 --> 00:02:36,800 observer 64 00:02:41,509 --> 00:02:39,280 the acronym cern is also used to refer 65 00:02:46,309 --> 00:02:41,519 to the laboratory which is in which in 66 00:02:49,030 --> 00:02:46,319 2019 had 2 660 scientific technical and 67 00:02:53,350 --> 00:02:49,040 administrative staff members and hosted 68 00:02:56,710 --> 00:02:53,360 about 12 400 users for in institutions 69 00:02:58,869 --> 00:02:56,720 in more than 70 countries in 2016 cern 70 00:03:01,350 --> 00:02:58,879 generated 49 71 00:03:02,869 --> 00:03:01,360 petabytes of data probably said that 72 00:03:04,790 --> 00:03:02,879 wrong but i didn't know there was that's 73 00:03:06,229 --> 00:03:04,800 a massive amount that's insane whatever 74 00:03:08,070 --> 00:03:06,239 that number is 75 00:03:10,550 --> 00:03:08,080 cern's main function is to provide the 76 00:03:12,790 --> 00:03:10,560 particle accelerators and other 77 00:03:14,309 --> 00:03:12,800 infrastructure needed for higher energy 78 00:03:16,790 --> 00:03:14,319 physics research 79 00:03:19,869 --> 00:03:16,800 as a result numerous experiments have 80 00:03:23,110 --> 00:03:19,879 been constructed at cern throughout 81 00:03:25,910 --> 00:03:23,120 international club collaborations cern 82 00:03:28,470 --> 00:03:25,920 is the site for the lar of the large 83 00:03:29,430 --> 00:03:28,480 hydran collider or the lhc 84 00:03:30,710 --> 00:03:29,440 you'll probably hear us mention that 85 00:03:33,430 --> 00:03:30,720 quite a bit tonight so here's to say the 86 00:03:35,030 --> 00:03:33,440 lhc it's the large hydran collider the 87 00:03:37,869 --> 00:03:35,040 world's largest and highest energy 88 00:03:41,110 --> 00:03:37,879 particle collider the main site at 89 00:03:42,949 --> 00:03:41,120 myron hosts a large computing facility 90 00:03:45,910 --> 00:03:42,959 which is primarily used to store and 91 00:03:49,110 --> 00:03:45,920 analyze data from experiments as well as 92 00:03:51,670 --> 00:03:49,120 simulate events researchers need remote 93 00:03:54,309 --> 00:03:51,680 access to these facilities so the lab 94 00:03:55,830 --> 00:03:54,319 has historically been a major wide area 95 00:03:58,149 --> 00:03:55,840 network hub 96 00:04:00,869 --> 00:03:58,159 excuse me cern is also the birthplace of 97 00:04:02,149 --> 00:04:00,879 the world wide web so that's just a 98 00:04:02,869 --> 00:04:02,159 little bit if you're if you're like all 99 00:04:04,229 --> 00:04:02,879 right i've been hearing people 100 00:04:05,190 --> 00:04:04,239 mentioning cern what's this all about 101 00:04:07,030 --> 00:04:05,200 some people say it's good some people 102 00:04:09,110 --> 00:04:07,040 are like it's the end of the world man 103 00:04:12,149 --> 00:04:09,120 uh and you go on you check wikipedia 104 00:04:13,350 --> 00:04:12,159 that's what you're gonna get um so 105 00:04:14,390 --> 00:04:13,360 we think there's a little bit more to 106 00:04:16,629 --> 00:04:14,400 that and it's certainly our guest 107 00:04:18,229 --> 00:04:16,639 tonight jess uh definitely thinks 108 00:04:19,270 --> 00:04:18,239 there's a lot more to that and uh just a 109 00:04:20,150 --> 00:04:19,280 little bit of background on jess real 110 00:04:22,710 --> 00:04:20,160 quick 111 00:04:24,070 --> 00:04:22,720 um she is about all things paranormal i 112 00:04:25,270 --> 00:04:24,080 think all things weird and strange i 113 00:04:26,950 --> 00:04:25,280 want to speak for her too much so if i 114 00:04:28,710 --> 00:04:26,960 get this wrong when i bring her on 115 00:04:30,629 --> 00:04:28,720 she can correct me 116 00:04:32,150 --> 00:04:30,639 she is also a full-time artist that is 117 00:04:34,070 --> 00:04:32,160 her main passion and pursuit and what 118 00:04:36,469 --> 00:04:34,080 she does in life but obviously she's 119 00:04:38,070 --> 00:04:36,479 really into the unsolved and mysterious 120 00:04:39,830 --> 00:04:38,080 i don't think she'd be too offended if i 121 00:04:41,189 --> 00:04:39,840 said she's maybe a little bit of a nerd 122 00:04:43,350 --> 00:04:41,199 about some of the stuff that she kind of 123 00:04:47,110 --> 00:04:43,360 nerds out on the idea of just the 124 00:04:48,550 --> 00:04:47,120 obscure and the what if so without too 125 00:04:50,629 --> 00:04:48,560 much more to add here let's let's bring 126 00:04:52,150 --> 00:04:50,639 on jess and you guys here at the garage 127 00:04:54,550 --> 00:04:52,160 let's give her a warm welcome because we 128 00:04:56,310 --> 00:04:54,560 all know jess welcome to the show first 129 00:04:58,150 --> 00:04:56,320 of all i know you can probably hear the 130 00:05:01,590 --> 00:04:58,160 the thousands of people clapping for us 131 00:05:03,510 --> 00:05:01,600 right now right i can i can 132 00:05:06,070 --> 00:05:03,520 thank you for having me 133 00:05:08,070 --> 00:05:06,080 oh absolutely when we found out or when 134 00:05:09,830 --> 00:05:08,080 this got worked out uh with ben and joe 135 00:05:11,590 --> 00:05:09,840 like i was telling you backstage i was 136 00:05:12,790 --> 00:05:11,600 like i had a couple people in mind that 137 00:05:14,390 --> 00:05:12,800 i wanted to interview and you were 138 00:05:16,629 --> 00:05:14,400 definitely like in the top three but 139 00:05:17,749 --> 00:05:16,639 like once they got confirmed i'd already 140 00:05:19,590 --> 00:05:17,759 started to briefly look at this i was 141 00:05:20,870 --> 00:05:19,600 like i need to bring out jess so 142 00:05:23,350 --> 00:05:20,880 i'm glad that we were able to do this 143 00:05:25,029 --> 00:05:23,360 and i appreciate you coming on here and 144 00:05:27,350 --> 00:05:25,039 hanging out so 145 00:05:30,150 --> 00:05:27,360 um but yeah was i wrong in singing yeah 146 00:05:33,110 --> 00:05:30,160 no problem i love doing this 147 00:05:35,510 --> 00:05:33,120 no i am a complete nerd 148 00:05:36,790 --> 00:05:35,520 i do i love all things paranormal and 149 00:05:40,629 --> 00:05:36,800 i'm an artist 150 00:05:43,510 --> 00:05:40,639 um in fact our paranormal group the sck 151 00:05:45,430 --> 00:05:43,520 border town paranormal we call ourselves 152 00:05:47,189 --> 00:05:45,440 the nerd herd 153 00:05:48,950 --> 00:05:47,199 so 154 00:05:51,029 --> 00:05:48,960 yeah 155 00:05:52,550 --> 00:05:51,039 oh sorry to me to cut you off there 156 00:05:53,909 --> 00:05:52,560 sorry about that but speaking of that 157 00:05:55,510 --> 00:05:53,919 really quick let's get that out of the 158 00:05:56,629 --> 00:05:55,520 way i love people are listening in the 159 00:05:58,309 --> 00:05:56,639 beginning so let's talk about really 160 00:05:59,590 --> 00:05:58,319 quick and then we have plenty of time to 161 00:06:02,070 --> 00:05:59,600 get into certain night guys we have a 162 00:06:04,550 --> 00:06:02,080 lot to cover so uh really quick if you'd 163 00:06:06,070 --> 00:06:04,560 like to tell people about this um 164 00:06:08,230 --> 00:06:06,080 right here i'll just give them a little 165 00:06:10,070 --> 00:06:08,240 bit of information 166 00:06:11,830 --> 00:06:10,080 yeah so um 167 00:06:13,909 --> 00:06:11,840 we try to do this yearly but because of 168 00:06:16,870 --> 00:06:13,919 covid it kind of got stuffed off in the 169 00:06:19,110 --> 00:06:16,880 works there um but this year um we hold 170 00:06:21,110 --> 00:06:19,120 a little mini paracon in our little town 171 00:06:23,350 --> 00:06:21,120 here in kansas 172 00:06:26,070 --> 00:06:23,360 i'm from caney so it'll be in kaney 173 00:06:27,990 --> 00:06:26,080 kansas on october 2nd 174 00:06:31,270 --> 00:06:28,000 we do just a little small part of the 175 00:06:34,469 --> 00:06:31,280 day it'll be a saturday from 10 a.m to 2 176 00:06:36,950 --> 00:06:34,479 and we do a couple of panels with 177 00:06:38,070 --> 00:06:36,960 local paranormal groups and this year 178 00:06:42,230 --> 00:06:38,080 we're lucky 179 00:06:43,670 --> 00:06:42,240 to have lisa martin from dark ozarks 180 00:06:45,110 --> 00:06:43,680 if you haven't heard of dark ozarks you 181 00:06:48,390 --> 00:06:45,120 should go look it up 182 00:06:51,830 --> 00:06:48,400 it's a group out of missouri and they 183 00:06:55,830 --> 00:06:51,840 are trying to start a tv show i'm not 184 00:06:58,390 --> 00:06:55,840 exactly sure what program it will be on 185 00:07:00,309 --> 00:06:58,400 um but they're getting that started um 186 00:07:04,070 --> 00:07:00,319 and we're also going to have joshua 187 00:07:05,589 --> 00:07:04,080 heston which does an online zine called 188 00:07:07,990 --> 00:07:05,599 state of the ozarks which you guys could 189 00:07:09,909 --> 00:07:08,000 check out it's pretty cool 190 00:07:11,749 --> 00:07:09,919 and then representing oklahoma because 191 00:07:13,510 --> 00:07:11,759 we try to do at least three or the four 192 00:07:14,390 --> 00:07:13,520 states around us 193 00:07:17,270 --> 00:07:14,400 is 194 00:07:19,189 --> 00:07:17,280 the ghost guy jason alexander 195 00:07:21,430 --> 00:07:19,199 um and hopefully some others were kind 196 00:07:23,830 --> 00:07:21,440 of in the talks with some other people 197 00:07:25,670 --> 00:07:23,840 but it's all free we just like to have 198 00:07:27,909 --> 00:07:25,680 people come and show up we talk about 199 00:07:30,309 --> 00:07:27,919 local lore and legend and ghost 200 00:07:31,670 --> 00:07:30,319 hauntings we give away ghost hunter 201 00:07:33,749 --> 00:07:31,680 goodie bags 202 00:07:35,670 --> 00:07:33,759 full of equipment and t-shirts and all 203 00:07:38,469 --> 00:07:35,680 sorts of fun stuff 204 00:07:41,029 --> 00:07:38,479 and the guys from what if tomorrow 205 00:07:42,390 --> 00:07:41,039 podcast are going to be broadcasting 206 00:07:45,430 --> 00:07:42,400 live that day 207 00:07:47,350 --> 00:07:45,440 so that'll be a lot of fun 208 00:07:49,830 --> 00:07:47,360 yeah yeah so if you're in the area come 209 00:07:51,670 --> 00:07:49,840 and see it and if you're not in the area 210 00:07:53,270 --> 00:07:51,680 we're gonna live broadcast it from our 211 00:07:57,430 --> 00:07:53,280 facebook page to 212 00:07:59,189 --> 00:07:57,440 the sck border town paranormal society 213 00:08:00,869 --> 00:07:59,199 and you can just get up and watch live 214 00:08:02,070 --> 00:08:00,879 from there 215 00:08:03,430 --> 00:08:02,080 perfect 216 00:08:04,629 --> 00:08:03,440 well let me uh i guess i probably should 217 00:08:07,189 --> 00:08:04,639 take this back down people are going to 218 00:08:10,710 --> 00:08:07,199 stare at that the whole time so 219 00:08:13,270 --> 00:08:10,720 um oops there we go perfect so yeah when 220 00:08:15,029 --> 00:08:13,280 we dig into this idea and first of all 221 00:08:16,469 --> 00:08:15,039 thank you for for letting me know and i 222 00:08:17,909 --> 00:08:16,479 believe if you guys go back to there is 223 00:08:19,270 --> 00:08:17,919 a qr code on there in case you might 224 00:08:20,550 --> 00:08:19,280 want to type that and you can get a 225 00:08:21,830 --> 00:08:20,560 little picture of that i believe at the 226 00:08:26,070 --> 00:08:21,840 bottom so 227 00:08:27,749 --> 00:08:26,080 um but going into the idea of cern where 228 00:08:30,070 --> 00:08:27,759 do we really start with that i know we 229 00:08:31,110 --> 00:08:30,080 gave like the very brief history that 230 00:08:33,990 --> 00:08:31,120 wikipedia and don't get me wrong 231 00:08:35,670 --> 00:08:34,000 wikipedia has a ton of information on it 232 00:08:38,630 --> 00:08:35,680 but i always think wikipedia is like 233 00:08:40,149 --> 00:08:38,640 that it's like a good starting point to 234 00:08:41,350 --> 00:08:40,159 to branch out from and i don't know what 235 00:08:42,949 --> 00:08:41,360 your opinion on is that but that's kind 236 00:08:44,550 --> 00:08:42,959 of like my conclusion with with 237 00:08:46,070 --> 00:08:44,560 wikipedia some things that you've done 238 00:08:47,269 --> 00:08:46,080 really well on and they've gone really 239 00:08:49,269 --> 00:08:47,279 in-depth and then like you go to look up 240 00:08:51,430 --> 00:08:49,279 the travis walton incident and it's like 241 00:08:53,190 --> 00:08:51,440 oh it was false it's a it's a fake story 242 00:08:54,949 --> 00:08:53,200 and there's like four paragraphs i think 243 00:08:56,630 --> 00:08:54,959 they've added a little bit more now but 244 00:08:58,310 --> 00:08:56,640 for the longest time there was nothing 245 00:09:02,870 --> 00:08:58,320 to one of the 246 00:09:05,670 --> 00:09:02,880 most interesting and in involved uh ufo 247 00:09:07,350 --> 00:09:05,680 abduction stories within ufology so the 248 00:09:09,269 --> 00:09:07,360 idea with this one is 249 00:09:11,430 --> 00:09:09,279 where do we even start with the idea of 250 00:09:13,990 --> 00:09:11,440 cern 251 00:09:14,949 --> 00:09:14,000 um well you can start from the beginning 252 00:09:16,470 --> 00:09:14,959 um 253 00:09:19,110 --> 00:09:16,480 so 254 00:09:21,990 --> 00:09:19,120 this the cern building that we know of 255 00:09:25,110 --> 00:09:22,000 now that that has the hadron collider in 256 00:09:28,470 --> 00:09:25,120 it um that came a little bit later 257 00:09:31,430 --> 00:09:28,480 um it was started in 1954 258 00:09:33,990 --> 00:09:31,440 but the actual society the cern society 259 00:09:35,590 --> 00:09:34,000 was started back in 1952 260 00:09:37,430 --> 00:09:35,600 and it wasn't even located there it was 261 00:09:40,230 --> 00:09:37,440 located in copenhagen 262 00:09:42,150 --> 00:09:40,240 um and it was run by a lot of the really 263 00:09:43,670 --> 00:09:42,160 big the biggest scientists in the world 264 00:09:45,670 --> 00:09:43,680 at the time the head director at the 265 00:09:47,670 --> 00:09:45,680 time was niels bohr 266 00:09:49,350 --> 00:09:47,680 um and for anybody who doesn't know 267 00:09:50,389 --> 00:09:49,360 anything a whole lot about science niels 268 00:09:53,590 --> 00:09:50,399 bohr 269 00:09:55,110 --> 00:09:53,600 contributed a whole lot to 270 00:09:55,990 --> 00:09:55,120 um 271 00:09:59,829 --> 00:09:56,000 like 272 00:10:01,190 --> 00:09:59,839 physics and particle physics um he came 273 00:10:03,509 --> 00:10:01,200 out the 274 00:10:04,710 --> 00:10:03,519 the atom model that we all studied in 275 00:10:06,630 --> 00:10:04,720 high school 276 00:10:08,630 --> 00:10:06,640 is the boers model 277 00:10:11,350 --> 00:10:08,640 it was named after him 278 00:10:12,470 --> 00:10:11,360 that's how much he's contributed um 279 00:10:14,150 --> 00:10:12,480 and 280 00:10:15,910 --> 00:10:14,160 there was a little 281 00:10:20,389 --> 00:10:15,920 bit of flim flam that happened there 282 00:10:21,670 --> 00:10:20,399 between 1952 and 1954 and part of those 283 00:10:24,069 --> 00:10:21,680 scientists 284 00:10:27,590 --> 00:10:24,079 got shoved away they fell away and new 285 00:10:30,790 --> 00:10:27,600 ones came then came in and reassociated 286 00:10:32,470 --> 00:10:30,800 and then moved that to the geneva area 287 00:10:33,990 --> 00:10:32,480 and no one has ever quite said 288 00:10:35,990 --> 00:10:34,000 what happened 289 00:10:37,110 --> 00:10:36,000 why that wasn't copacetic 290 00:10:38,870 --> 00:10:37,120 um 291 00:10:40,470 --> 00:10:38,880 but that's like the first 292 00:10:42,389 --> 00:10:40,480 the first time 293 00:10:45,350 --> 00:10:42,399 something's a little weird is going on 294 00:10:46,870 --> 00:10:45,360 with the society and that's when it uh 295 00:10:48,150 --> 00:10:46,880 when they started forming all the 296 00:10:49,829 --> 00:10:48,160 nations all the nations started coming 297 00:10:51,190 --> 00:10:49,839 together you mentioned that i think it's 298 00:10:54,550 --> 00:10:51,200 23 299 00:10:57,230 --> 00:10:54,560 different countries are full members 300 00:11:00,550 --> 00:10:57,240 uh along with israel it's the only 301 00:11:01,829 --> 00:11:00,560 non-british or not british european 302 00:11:03,350 --> 00:11:01,839 country 303 00:11:06,389 --> 00:11:03,360 that's in there 304 00:11:08,150 --> 00:11:06,399 and people think that's odd too 305 00:11:09,509 --> 00:11:08,160 why would so many countries come 306 00:11:11,990 --> 00:11:09,519 together 307 00:11:13,990 --> 00:11:12,000 for one little scientific 308 00:11:15,590 --> 00:11:14,000 you know endeavor 309 00:11:16,550 --> 00:11:15,600 um 310 00:11:19,430 --> 00:11:16,560 you know 311 00:11:21,110 --> 00:11:19,440 people can throw all sorts of 312 00:11:23,509 --> 00:11:21,120 yeah because that wasn't what like the 313 00:11:24,550 --> 00:11:23,519 original concept too if i'm not mistaken 314 00:11:25,910 --> 00:11:24,560 i thought when i was reading out a 315 00:11:27,430 --> 00:11:25,920 little bit is that 316 00:11:29,910 --> 00:11:27,440 after world war ii where they had pretty 317 00:11:32,389 --> 00:11:29,920 much been devastated in in europe as a 318 00:11:33,509 --> 00:11:32,399 whole but especially the uh that well 319 00:11:35,030 --> 00:11:33,519 england i thought wasn't the guy because 320 00:11:36,710 --> 00:11:35,040 he was from he was english originally 321 00:11:38,389 --> 00:11:36,720 right 322 00:11:40,389 --> 00:11:38,399 that started yeah and i thought that was 323 00:11:42,389 --> 00:11:40,399 his worries that everybody was fleeing 324 00:11:43,829 --> 00:11:42,399 europe or england and they were going to 325 00:11:45,590 --> 00:11:43,839 to other places abroad particularly 326 00:11:46,710 --> 00:11:45,600 united states so not only had they lost 327 00:11:48,069 --> 00:11:46,720 a lot of infrastructure but they were 328 00:11:50,949 --> 00:11:48,079 starting to lose brain power as it were 329 00:11:53,750 --> 00:11:50,959 like actual intelligence iq level and he 330 00:11:55,269 --> 00:11:53,760 was like well let's let's form this um 331 00:11:56,629 --> 00:11:55,279 and kind of go forward with that so do 332 00:11:58,550 --> 00:11:56,639 you think initially the process of 333 00:12:00,150 --> 00:11:58,560 getting this set up what was uh 334 00:12:01,910 --> 00:12:00,160 listen to be clear too 335 00:12:03,269 --> 00:12:01,920 i guess i should give away my uh any 336 00:12:05,430 --> 00:12:03,279 prejudice i have in this story or 337 00:12:06,790 --> 00:12:05,440 anything i'm very open to both sides 338 00:12:08,949 --> 00:12:06,800 here i'm not sold one way or the other 339 00:12:10,629 --> 00:12:08,959 that cern's gonna end the world or that 340 00:12:12,069 --> 00:12:10,639 that it's it's 100 341 00:12:14,230 --> 00:12:12,079 completely okay 342 00:12:16,150 --> 00:12:14,240 but i i don't know that initially 343 00:12:18,310 --> 00:12:16,160 setting up do you think that 344 00:12:20,310 --> 00:12:18,320 there was any sort of um 345 00:12:21,829 --> 00:12:20,320 ill will when they were forming this or 346 00:12:23,509 --> 00:12:21,839 do you think it was genuinely like i 347 00:12:25,990 --> 00:12:23,519 want to bring the minds together to 348 00:12:27,590 --> 00:12:26,000 study some fundamental questions 349 00:12:30,470 --> 00:12:27,600 i'm kind of 350 00:12:32,870 --> 00:12:30,480 um 351 00:12:34,389 --> 00:12:32,880 i've seen a lot of things that lend one 352 00:12:35,670 --> 00:12:34,399 way and i've seen a lot of things that 353 00:12:39,269 --> 00:12:35,680 lend the other 354 00:12:41,670 --> 00:12:39,279 and really it's it's a he said she said 355 00:12:43,110 --> 00:12:41,680 you know how do you want to look at this 356 00:12:43,990 --> 00:12:43,120 as it happened 357 00:12:45,990 --> 00:12:44,000 um 358 00:12:48,710 --> 00:12:46,000 any a conspiracy theorist will find 359 00:12:51,030 --> 00:12:48,720 something anywhere anywhere um but a lot 360 00:12:54,389 --> 00:12:51,040 of the things that they do kind of lend 361 00:12:57,269 --> 00:12:54,399 to conspiracy theory so i'm like you i 362 00:12:59,430 --> 00:12:57,279 don't believe either way i'm 363 00:13:04,230 --> 00:12:59,440 i'm switzerland i'm neutral 364 00:13:09,110 --> 00:13:07,430 i just think it's completely interesting 365 00:13:11,430 --> 00:13:09,120 what they're doing what they've done 366 00:13:13,990 --> 00:13:11,440 what they're trying to do um 367 00:13:16,550 --> 00:13:14,000 but also on the flip side of it um the 368 00:13:19,509 --> 00:13:16,560 conspiracies that can go along with that 369 00:13:20,629 --> 00:13:19,519 um if those are even partially true holy 370 00:13:23,350 --> 00:13:20,639 cow 371 00:13:25,350 --> 00:13:23,360 the implications um 372 00:13:27,190 --> 00:13:25,360 to everyone in the in the end you know 373 00:13:29,110 --> 00:13:27,200 in the world um 374 00:13:32,470 --> 00:13:29,120 will be insane 375 00:13:34,470 --> 00:13:32,480 um and we can get into a lot of those 376 00:13:35,829 --> 00:13:34,480 uh later 377 00:13:37,430 --> 00:13:35,839 um 378 00:13:39,030 --> 00:13:37,440 i don't know which way do you which way 379 00:13:41,829 --> 00:13:39,040 do you want to go 380 00:13:42,870 --> 00:13:41,839 well i i think i mean in my opinion i 381 00:13:44,389 --> 00:13:42,880 mean 382 00:13:49,269 --> 00:13:44,399 i think that 383 00:13:51,269 --> 00:13:49,279 a uh like most things like 384 00:13:53,430 --> 00:13:51,279 probably from a place of just wanting to 385 00:13:54,949 --> 00:13:53,440 understand science a bit more and and 386 00:13:56,150 --> 00:13:54,959 then correct me if i'm wrong i hope 387 00:13:57,590 --> 00:13:56,160 maybe you know this or you don't i 388 00:13:59,269 --> 00:13:57,600 thought that their 389 00:14:01,590 --> 00:13:59,279 initial concept 390 00:14:03,350 --> 00:14:01,600 was to study the question like 391 00:14:04,389 --> 00:14:03,360 even then what was the fundamental 392 00:14:05,829 --> 00:14:04,399 question we all kind of have when we're 393 00:14:07,829 --> 00:14:05,839 born too is like where did you come from 394 00:14:09,509 --> 00:14:07,839 like we have the point where like okay 395 00:14:10,710 --> 00:14:09,519 we came from our parents but then we 396 00:14:11,829 --> 00:14:10,720 keep tracing it back all right parents 397 00:14:13,269 --> 00:14:11,839 came from their grandparents and yadda 398 00:14:15,350 --> 00:14:13,279 yadda and we go back to 399 00:14:16,710 --> 00:14:15,360 what some would go back and forth on 400 00:14:20,310 --> 00:14:16,720 whether you're a 401 00:14:21,990 --> 00:14:20,320 you know believe in the big bang and i 402 00:14:23,189 --> 00:14:22,000 believe that that was some other idea 403 00:14:24,870 --> 00:14:23,199 fundamentally from the start that they 404 00:14:26,310 --> 00:14:24,880 wanted to study if i'm not mistaken 405 00:14:27,910 --> 00:14:26,320 right they were wanting to look at the 406 00:14:30,230 --> 00:14:27,920 idea of 407 00:14:32,389 --> 00:14:30,240 how are we here how does matter work and 408 00:14:33,509 --> 00:14:32,399 then moving into things like the stuff 409 00:14:35,110 --> 00:14:33,519 they're doing now i don't know if they 410 00:14:36,470 --> 00:14:35,120 were initially working with particles in 411 00:14:38,550 --> 00:14:36,480 the beginning i believe the mass was 412 00:14:40,550 --> 00:14:38,560 there for them if i'm not mistaken but 413 00:14:42,470 --> 00:14:40,560 the obviously the technology just wasn't 414 00:14:44,550 --> 00:14:42,480 there for the equipment i should say 415 00:14:45,910 --> 00:14:44,560 so in your opinion i mean do you still 416 00:14:47,670 --> 00:14:45,920 think that that was part of it even from 417 00:14:49,910 --> 00:14:47,680 like so some of the concern we have now 418 00:14:50,870 --> 00:14:49,920 with the idea of recreating a big bang 419 00:14:52,150 --> 00:14:50,880 um 420 00:14:53,030 --> 00:14:52,160 and i know i'm briefing over that a 421 00:14:54,470 --> 00:14:53,040 little bit because it's not it's a 422 00:14:56,150 --> 00:14:54,480 little more complex than that but do you 423 00:14:57,350 --> 00:14:56,160 think that that was from the start one 424 00:15:01,750 --> 00:14:57,360 of the 425 00:15:05,110 --> 00:15:01,760 founding i guess 426 00:15:07,509 --> 00:15:05,120 um the original date the 1952 427 00:15:09,990 --> 00:15:07,519 when they first started the organization 428 00:15:10,870 --> 00:15:10,000 i don't think there was any kind of you 429 00:15:12,710 --> 00:15:10,880 know 430 00:15:15,750 --> 00:15:12,720 new world order 431 00:15:18,230 --> 00:15:15,760 let's you know oh let's do this um kind 432 00:15:20,470 --> 00:15:18,240 of thing um when it came when they 433 00:15:23,750 --> 00:15:20,480 started building the main facility 434 00:15:25,590 --> 00:15:23,760 that the collider is now housed in 435 00:15:26,710 --> 00:15:25,600 um 436 00:15:29,189 --> 00:15:26,720 maybe 437 00:15:30,710 --> 00:15:29,199 they're like i like i said earlier uh 438 00:15:32,310 --> 00:15:30,720 when they kind of like 439 00:15:34,069 --> 00:15:32,320 dropped away part of the scientist and 440 00:15:35,990 --> 00:15:34,079 they reformed really really fast and 441 00:15:37,670 --> 00:15:36,000 they started this new 442 00:15:40,550 --> 00:15:37,680 they basically rebuilt it from the 443 00:15:42,710 --> 00:15:40,560 bottom up how it was organized and it 444 00:15:43,670 --> 00:15:42,720 moved very quickly 445 00:15:45,990 --> 00:15:43,680 um 446 00:15:48,069 --> 00:15:46,000 and and formed and of course 447 00:15:48,949 --> 00:15:48,079 i think at one point they had 448 00:15:51,030 --> 00:15:48,959 up to 449 00:15:53,749 --> 00:15:51,040 some like a hundred and a hundred 450 00:15:55,829 --> 00:15:53,759 thousand scientists involved 451 00:15:57,749 --> 00:15:55,839 in one way or another 452 00:15:59,189 --> 00:15:57,759 whether in building or not 453 00:16:02,550 --> 00:15:59,199 with it 454 00:16:03,990 --> 00:16:02,560 across the world 455 00:16:05,990 --> 00:16:04,000 it kind of makes you think a little bit 456 00:16:08,310 --> 00:16:06,000 you know 457 00:16:10,389 --> 00:16:08,320 what was there that made them all just 458 00:16:12,389 --> 00:16:10,399 come together so quickly and it could 459 00:16:14,710 --> 00:16:12,399 just very well be that they all had kind 460 00:16:16,550 --> 00:16:14,720 of the hive mind to do whatever this was 461 00:16:19,110 --> 00:16:16,560 that they were getting ready to do 462 00:16:20,790 --> 00:16:19,120 um yeah no matter either way it's it's 463 00:16:23,350 --> 00:16:20,800 really amazing 464 00:16:27,110 --> 00:16:23,360 uh the things they have done uh the 465 00:16:29,110 --> 00:16:27,120 the the hydrant collider itself is 466 00:16:30,629 --> 00:16:29,120 i think it should be called one of the 467 00:16:35,670 --> 00:16:30,639 uh 468 00:16:37,189 --> 00:16:35,680 um just for its size 469 00:16:39,829 --> 00:16:37,199 i don't think a lot of people realize 470 00:16:41,670 --> 00:16:39,839 they always show you know the 471 00:16:42,790 --> 00:16:41,680 the little the circle part of it with 472 00:16:45,829 --> 00:16:42,800 the 473 00:16:47,829 --> 00:16:45,839 uh beams running through it um 474 00:16:51,030 --> 00:16:47,839 but that is just one little part of the 475 00:16:53,030 --> 00:16:51,040 collider the um 476 00:16:55,110 --> 00:16:53,040 the i don't know what they're called i 477 00:16:57,030 --> 00:16:55,120 don't claim to be a scientist 478 00:16:58,389 --> 00:16:57,040 i'm not very good at the science part of 479 00:16:59,189 --> 00:16:58,399 it but 480 00:17:00,150 --> 00:16:59,199 uh 481 00:17:02,069 --> 00:17:00,160 the 482 00:17:03,509 --> 00:17:02,079 rings that run 483 00:17:06,549 --> 00:17:03,519 that blow the pro 484 00:17:08,949 --> 00:17:06,559 the protons towards each other are 17 485 00:17:12,630 --> 00:17:08,959 miles in circumference 486 00:17:15,350 --> 00:17:12,640 it's 17 miles of tunnel 487 00:17:17,669 --> 00:17:15,360 and it's about i think it's just under 488 00:17:19,429 --> 00:17:17,679 two american football field sizes 489 00:17:21,990 --> 00:17:19,439 underneath the ground 490 00:17:23,669 --> 00:17:22,000 but it's that large 491 00:17:25,909 --> 00:17:23,679 and i can't imagine 492 00:17:27,990 --> 00:17:25,919 the infrastructure that went in 493 00:17:29,990 --> 00:17:28,000 to get that done 494 00:17:31,990 --> 00:17:30,000 they have to shoot those protons i think 495 00:17:33,110 --> 00:17:32,000 it's just underneath the the speed of 496 00:17:37,110 --> 00:17:33,120 light 497 00:17:41,590 --> 00:17:37,120 yeah so in order to get that speed 498 00:17:47,909 --> 00:17:43,909 yeah and they they said to get them to 499 00:17:50,390 --> 00:17:47,919 collide it's literally like the size of 500 00:17:51,830 --> 00:17:50,400 a of a quarter of a bulb the tip of a 501 00:17:54,390 --> 00:17:51,840 ballpoint pen 502 00:17:56,870 --> 00:17:54,400 touching each other within 503 00:17:57,750 --> 00:17:56,880 i can't i can't imagine 504 00:18:00,230 --> 00:17:57,760 um 505 00:18:01,909 --> 00:18:00,240 so just that alone is an amazing feat 506 00:18:03,990 --> 00:18:01,919 and 507 00:18:05,669 --> 00:18:04,000 it's of course not the only facility 508 00:18:07,909 --> 00:18:05,679 that's involved with cern they have 509 00:18:09,190 --> 00:18:07,919 facilities in many many countries they 510 00:18:11,110 --> 00:18:09,200 have a large one 511 00:18:12,950 --> 00:18:11,120 in france which we were talking about 512 00:18:14,950 --> 00:18:12,960 earlier before 513 00:18:18,230 --> 00:18:14,960 we started the show 514 00:18:19,990 --> 00:18:18,240 um and uh gosh i think they have they 515 00:18:22,150 --> 00:18:20,000 have a couple of them 516 00:18:24,230 --> 00:18:22,160 in great britain 517 00:18:26,230 --> 00:18:24,240 i don't know the list of all of them but 518 00:18:29,270 --> 00:18:26,240 cern is more than just the one building 519 00:18:32,070 --> 00:18:29,280 they have multiple sites and multiple uh 520 00:18:35,750 --> 00:18:32,080 situations going on each one of them and 521 00:18:37,669 --> 00:18:35,760 it's it's just really amazing 522 00:18:40,470 --> 00:18:37,679 and i guess we can hit on that since uh 523 00:18:41,590 --> 00:18:40,480 509 uh brought up a question here or 524 00:18:42,789 --> 00:18:41,600 brought up a point which you and i were 525 00:18:44,710 --> 00:18:42,799 hitting on a little bit again it is kind 526 00:18:46,549 --> 00:18:44,720 of funny to the location that they chose 527 00:18:48,150 --> 00:18:46,559 you know if we were to trace that back 528 00:18:50,470 --> 00:18:48,160 even even further 529 00:18:51,270 --> 00:18:50,480 um like you were hitting on and i was a 530 00:18:53,750 --> 00:18:51,280 little bit off because i thought it was 531 00:18:56,789 --> 00:18:53,760 like the exact location it's not the 532 00:18:59,750 --> 00:18:56,799 exact location of the original 533 00:19:01,590 --> 00:18:59,760 uh temple to the god apollo but it's 534 00:19:03,430 --> 00:19:01,600 really close isn't it like rather close 535 00:19:07,750 --> 00:19:03,440 i should say 536 00:19:09,110 --> 00:19:07,760 yeah it's in uh it's in rural france 537 00:19:11,510 --> 00:19:09,120 um 538 00:19:14,470 --> 00:19:11,520 and i can't i can't remember the name of 539 00:19:15,510 --> 00:19:14,480 the little town it's just beside 540 00:19:18,470 --> 00:19:15,520 um 541 00:19:20,230 --> 00:19:18,480 but yeah the area itself uh was the 542 00:19:21,430 --> 00:19:20,240 original site 543 00:19:23,029 --> 00:19:21,440 for 544 00:19:25,350 --> 00:19:23,039 uh 545 00:19:29,270 --> 00:19:25,360 the temple of apollyon 546 00:19:30,870 --> 00:19:29,280 is what it was called apollo apollyon 547 00:19:33,430 --> 00:19:30,880 yeah well i mean 548 00:19:35,750 --> 00:19:33,440 almost the same thing like they derive 549 00:19:41,590 --> 00:19:35,760 from each other um yeah the temple of 550 00:19:43,830 --> 00:19:41,600 apollyon um and apollyon was a destroyer 551 00:19:45,350 --> 00:19:43,840 and 552 00:19:47,830 --> 00:19:45,360 it was all 553 00:19:50,390 --> 00:19:47,840 also in hebrew 554 00:19:53,909 --> 00:19:50,400 abaddon 555 00:19:56,310 --> 00:19:53,919 was also a bottomless pit 556 00:19:58,630 --> 00:19:56,320 and it's been said 557 00:20:01,590 --> 00:19:58,640 since that was around the people in the 558 00:20:03,750 --> 00:20:01,600 area have said that that site there is 559 00:20:06,710 --> 00:20:03,760 basically a portal 560 00:20:08,070 --> 00:20:06,720 to either hell or to some other place 561 00:20:09,750 --> 00:20:08,080 the locals 562 00:20:11,190 --> 00:20:09,760 wouldn't even use it it's one of the 563 00:20:12,950 --> 00:20:11,200 reasons why they were able to put such a 564 00:20:14,710 --> 00:20:12,960 large facility there because nobody 565 00:20:17,029 --> 00:20:14,720 owned the land but the 566 00:20:18,950 --> 00:20:17,039 but france itself because nobody you 567 00:20:20,789 --> 00:20:18,960 know would farm it or 568 00:20:23,029 --> 00:20:20,799 because it was not a site you walked 569 00:20:25,270 --> 00:20:23,039 onto and a lot of people thought it was 570 00:20:27,270 --> 00:20:25,280 very odd that they would choose and one 571 00:20:29,190 --> 00:20:27,280 of the colliders is there 572 00:20:32,070 --> 00:20:29,200 there's more than just the the hadron 573 00:20:33,430 --> 00:20:32,080 there's many many colliders that do 574 00:20:36,149 --> 00:20:33,440 different things different types of 575 00:20:38,390 --> 00:20:36,159 tests and there is a collider 576 00:20:40,070 --> 00:20:38,400 on that site 577 00:20:41,830 --> 00:20:40,080 um and the people there were just like 578 00:20:42,870 --> 00:20:41,840 what are you doing 579 00:20:46,789 --> 00:20:42,880 why are you 580 00:20:49,190 --> 00:20:46,799 other 581 00:20:51,909 --> 00:20:49,200 in a site where we know there's a portal 582 00:20:54,390 --> 00:20:51,919 um and there's another conspiracy theory 583 00:20:55,830 --> 00:20:54,400 you know why would you choose 584 00:20:57,029 --> 00:20:55,840 that site 585 00:20:58,710 --> 00:20:57,039 although i think it's probably just 586 00:21:00,870 --> 00:20:58,720 because it was an easy site to put it on 587 00:21:02,290 --> 00:21:00,880 because there is no farmland there right 588 00:21:03,430 --> 00:21:02,300 there was nobody to buy it from 589 00:21:04,630 --> 00:21:03,440 [Music] 590 00:21:06,230 --> 00:21:04,640 yeah 591 00:21:07,909 --> 00:21:06,240 it is kind of amazing that's interesting 592 00:21:10,390 --> 00:21:07,919 nonetheless 593 00:21:11,990 --> 00:21:10,400 yeah as i say and it encompasses three 594 00:21:13,830 --> 00:21:12,000 countries right kind of isn't it like 595 00:21:15,110 --> 00:21:13,840 switzerland france and then it does it 596 00:21:17,190 --> 00:21:15,120 catch another one or is it just france 597 00:21:19,750 --> 00:21:17,200 and switzerland 598 00:21:23,110 --> 00:21:19,760 i don't remember exactly there's there's 599 00:21:24,470 --> 00:21:23,120 a there's one or two more there's a 600 00:21:26,630 --> 00:21:24,480 yeah i'm not 601 00:21:28,310 --> 00:21:26,640 i'm not on the up-and-up 602 00:21:29,750 --> 00:21:28,320 if you guys go on the wikipedia or you 603 00:21:31,830 --> 00:21:29,760 google it it'll show there's several 604 00:21:34,230 --> 00:21:31,840 pictures that show yeah the rings and 605 00:21:36,390 --> 00:21:34,240 the exact location of it but we did have 606 00:21:37,590 --> 00:21:36,400 a question from ben um 607 00:21:39,029 --> 00:21:37,600 so i guess we can kind of jump into 608 00:21:40,230 --> 00:21:39,039 because i think it is it is an important 609 00:21:41,190 --> 00:21:40,240 one i'll pop it on the screen for you 610 00:21:44,630 --> 00:21:41,200 here too 611 00:21:46,230 --> 00:21:44,640 so yeah uh or i'm sorry ben asked the 612 00:21:48,470 --> 00:21:46,240 question any thoughts on the 2012 613 00:21:49,990 --> 00:21:48,480 alternate dimension theory so i know 614 00:21:51,270 --> 00:21:50,000 this is kind of like the big thing that 615 00:21:53,350 --> 00:21:51,280 rang true for everybody where everybody 616 00:21:54,710 --> 00:21:53,360 started paying attention i think people 617 00:21:56,710 --> 00:21:54,720 i don't really think i'd ever heard of 618 00:21:58,230 --> 00:21:56,720 cern 619 00:22:00,630 --> 00:21:58,240 prior to that really the one that i 620 00:22:01,830 --> 00:22:00,640 always heard of prior to 2012 was darpa 621 00:22:03,029 --> 00:22:01,840 and they just kind of like disappeared 622 00:22:03,990 --> 00:22:03,039 they went off the radar but that was 623 00:22:06,149 --> 00:22:04,000 when i had always heard the name all 624 00:22:07,909 --> 00:22:06,159 that good people like oh man it's darpa 625 00:22:10,230 --> 00:22:07,919 but then sir i'm not hearing you right 626 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:14,710 oh did it drop out 627 00:22:22,789 --> 00:22:16,630 one of us are froze that's no good is it 628 00:22:27,270 --> 00:22:25,990 did i disappear on you 629 00:22:31,510 --> 00:22:27,280 we're going to see in the comments who 630 00:22:37,110 --> 00:22:34,070 yeah i can't hear you 631 00:22:44,789 --> 00:22:37,120 there you go i can hear you now 632 00:22:48,870 --> 00:22:47,029 oh it says she's frozen 633 00:22:50,390 --> 00:22:48,880 okay 634 00:22:51,590 --> 00:22:50,400 i wasn't sure because it's happened to 635 00:22:53,430 --> 00:22:51,600 me before and you never know if you're 636 00:22:54,870 --> 00:22:53,440 the one frozen you're like i don't know 637 00:22:56,310 --> 00:22:54,880 all right let me do this 638 00:22:57,350 --> 00:22:56,320 uh 639 00:22:58,710 --> 00:22:57,360 we're gonna remove her and see if she 640 00:23:00,630 --> 00:22:58,720 can jump back in we'll get her back in 641 00:23:02,310 --> 00:23:00,640 in just a second here so uh for 642 00:23:04,149 --> 00:23:02,320 everybody in the chat thank you for 643 00:23:06,310 --> 00:23:04,159 hanging out and coming in here i'm gonna 644 00:23:08,310 --> 00:23:06,320 get her set back up in just a second 645 00:23:09,669 --> 00:23:08,320 message her about that she should use 646 00:23:11,110 --> 00:23:09,679 the same one 647 00:23:13,990 --> 00:23:11,120 let's see oh look at that she's already 648 00:23:15,830 --> 00:23:14,000 on it she's a pro look at this 649 00:23:18,710 --> 00:23:15,840 all right 650 00:23:21,190 --> 00:23:18,720 yeah 651 00:23:23,270 --> 00:23:21,200 you're still cutting out 652 00:23:25,750 --> 00:23:23,280 am i cutting out on you 653 00:23:29,350 --> 00:23:28,310 can you hear me okay now yeah 654 00:23:30,870 --> 00:23:29,360 okay 655 00:23:32,310 --> 00:23:30,880 might be a storm some people said 656 00:23:33,669 --> 00:23:32,320 internet problems it could be yeah i can 657 00:23:35,830 --> 00:23:33,679 hear you now 658 00:23:36,950 --> 00:23:35,840 okay weird 659 00:23:38,870 --> 00:23:36,960 right so maybe you didn't hear what i 660 00:23:41,430 --> 00:23:38,880 was saying leading up to that which was 661 00:23:43,350 --> 00:23:41,440 prior to 2012 the one that i always 662 00:23:45,029 --> 00:23:43,360 heard about was darpa yeah you're 663 00:23:48,830 --> 00:23:45,039 cutting out still 664 00:23:54,310 --> 00:23:51,990 yep oh no 665 00:23:55,750 --> 00:23:54,320 let's see let me try this she says so 666 00:23:57,350 --> 00:23:55,760 some people say they can hear us both 667 00:23:59,269 --> 00:23:57,360 well 668 00:24:01,510 --> 00:23:59,279 um 669 00:24:03,350 --> 00:24:01,520 let's see some people say they think it 670 00:24:04,390 --> 00:24:03,360 might be you if it is me guys if you if 671 00:24:06,950 --> 00:24:04,400 you're in the chat 672 00:24:08,310 --> 00:24:06,960 let me know and i'm weird 673 00:24:11,990 --> 00:24:08,320 are you okay are you able to hear me now 674 00:24:15,269 --> 00:24:13,510 okay 675 00:24:17,190 --> 00:24:15,279 yeah i can hear you yeah 676 00:24:17,990 --> 00:24:17,200 oh you can okay i just making sure i was 677 00:24:19,110 --> 00:24:18,000 like 678 00:24:20,390 --> 00:24:19,120 yeah i can hear you it says we both 679 00:24:21,909 --> 00:24:20,400 sound good all right good enough guys 680 00:24:24,070 --> 00:24:21,919 we're gonna roll with it that's how 681 00:24:25,750 --> 00:24:24,080 we're doing it this van is not stopping 682 00:24:28,470 --> 00:24:25,760 we're rolling on through through this 683 00:24:29,750 --> 00:24:28,480 door whatever happens okay 684 00:24:32,310 --> 00:24:29,760 um 685 00:24:33,590 --> 00:24:32,320 so 2012. 686 00:24:35,269 --> 00:24:33,600 there's a lot that happened that year 687 00:24:37,110 --> 00:24:35,279 for people but what are your thoughts on 688 00:24:38,390 --> 00:24:37,120 his opinion and asking the question for 689 00:24:43,909 --> 00:24:38,400 the altered dimensions theory what do 690 00:24:48,950 --> 00:24:46,789 i think there 691 00:24:49,990 --> 00:24:48,960 is a lot of credence to it 692 00:24:56,630 --> 00:24:50,000 um 693 00:24:58,390 --> 00:24:56,640 cern or anything else and 2012 across 694 00:24:59,590 --> 00:24:58,400 the board 695 00:25:00,470 --> 00:24:59,600 was a 696 00:25:02,190 --> 00:25:00,480 crazy 697 00:25:03,750 --> 00:25:02,200 insane year um 698 00:25:05,510 --> 00:25:03,760 [Music] 699 00:25:08,230 --> 00:25:05,520 for everything 700 00:25:09,110 --> 00:25:08,240 and uh it just so happens to be the year 701 00:25:11,669 --> 00:25:09,120 that 702 00:25:12,870 --> 00:25:11,679 they started up the hadron collider and 703 00:25:15,190 --> 00:25:12,880 found 704 00:25:17,269 --> 00:25:15,200 uh the higgs boson 705 00:25:19,029 --> 00:25:17,279 yeah 706 00:25:21,350 --> 00:25:19,039 there's a lot of scientists even within 707 00:25:22,630 --> 00:25:21,360 cern itself that warned against doing it 708 00:25:23,990 --> 00:25:22,640 they didn't want to do it not all of 709 00:25:24,870 --> 00:25:24,000 them were for it 710 00:25:27,590 --> 00:25:24,880 um 711 00:25:30,390 --> 00:25:27,600 and even stephen hawking 712 00:25:32,149 --> 00:25:30,400 had made mention that uh 713 00:25:34,950 --> 00:25:32,159 i think i think his story was a little 714 00:25:37,269 --> 00:25:34,960 funny he had bet somebody that a hundred 715 00:25:39,750 --> 00:25:37,279 dollars that it wouldn't happen 716 00:25:43,029 --> 00:25:39,760 um and then later on when they did find 717 00:25:46,470 --> 00:25:43,039 it uh he back up 718 00:25:49,110 --> 00:25:46,480 and issued a paper on it saying that 719 00:25:51,990 --> 00:25:49,120 it had been a horrible mistake and that 720 00:25:53,830 --> 00:25:52,000 if they continued with it it was going 721 00:25:55,510 --> 00:25:53,840 to become unstable 722 00:25:56,789 --> 00:25:55,520 and that it was going to start to 723 00:25:58,950 --> 00:25:56,799 degrade 724 00:26:01,029 --> 00:25:58,960 and that it would eventually 725 00:26:02,470 --> 00:26:01,039 cause our universe to collapse in on 726 00:26:06,310 --> 00:26:02,480 itself 727 00:26:08,710 --> 00:26:06,320 and he had also said to someone passing 728 00:26:10,950 --> 00:26:08,720 on a little interview that 729 00:26:13,430 --> 00:26:10,960 he'd done that it may well have already 730 00:26:17,029 --> 00:26:13,440 happened when they found it and we won't 731 00:26:20,710 --> 00:26:18,710 oh man they're saving 732 00:26:22,230 --> 00:26:20,720 they're saving all the secrets they know 733 00:26:24,789 --> 00:26:22,240 she's trying to drop that knowledge and 734 00:26:25,750 --> 00:26:24,799 they're like no no we can't have that 735 00:26:27,029 --> 00:26:25,760 jess 736 00:26:28,630 --> 00:26:27,039 here i'm gonna pull her out and i'll try 737 00:26:31,430 --> 00:26:28,640 to pop her back into the stream here let 738 00:26:37,830 --> 00:26:32,549 all right 739 00:26:43,669 --> 00:26:39,990 i don't know what's happening 740 00:26:43,679 --> 00:26:48,070 you said your wi-fi is good 741 00:26:51,510 --> 00:26:49,669 doesn't matter [\h__\h] you're trying to 742 00:26:59,029 --> 00:26:51,520 silence her yeah that's the way it goes 743 00:27:04,549 --> 00:27:02,070 are we all right 744 00:27:06,070 --> 00:27:04,559 i think i think i could be wrong but it 745 00:27:07,669 --> 00:27:06,080 looks like everybody says it it keeps 746 00:27:09,110 --> 00:27:07,679 kicking me off 747 00:27:11,190 --> 00:27:09,120 yeah which means for some reason your 748 00:27:13,750 --> 00:27:11,200 internet might be dropping a little bit 749 00:27:16,390 --> 00:27:13,760 um the only thing i can think of doing 750 00:27:19,110 --> 00:27:18,070 say moving closer to your wi-fi router 751 00:27:21,190 --> 00:27:19,120 probably won't help you too much right 752 00:27:22,789 --> 00:27:21,200 now you we'll get you we'll get you a 753 00:27:23,909 --> 00:27:22,799 chord eventually well hard why are you 754 00:27:25,669 --> 00:27:23,919 in that's what i had to do with mine 755 00:27:26,950 --> 00:27:25,679 because it was too far away 756 00:27:31,750 --> 00:27:26,960 um are you able to hear me though right 757 00:27:36,549 --> 00:27:34,470 no okay why don't we try doing this i'll 758 00:27:38,549 --> 00:27:36,559 i'll take you out and then try and join 759 00:27:40,070 --> 00:27:38,559 with maybe just audio see if that helps 760 00:27:41,430 --> 00:27:40,080 with your wi-fi a little bit i mean i'd 761 00:27:43,510 --> 00:27:41,440 like to keep i would like to keep you up 762 00:27:45,190 --> 00:27:43,520 here but maybe until it kicks back in we 763 00:27:46,470 --> 00:27:45,200 can at least get your audio we'll try it 764 00:27:48,310 --> 00:27:46,480 that way and see if it keeps kicking you 765 00:27:49,830 --> 00:27:48,320 okay 766 00:27:53,029 --> 00:27:49,840 so when you join back in just join with 767 00:27:56,389 --> 00:27:54,470 all right 768 00:27:57,669 --> 00:27:56,399 okay perfect 769 00:27:58,950 --> 00:27:57,679 all right so yeah so for those in the 770 00:28:01,269 --> 00:27:58,960 chat i'd love to ask you guys a question 771 00:28:03,190 --> 00:28:01,279 real quick too um 772 00:28:06,149 --> 00:28:03,200 have any of you 773 00:28:08,310 --> 00:28:06,159 had if you recall the year 2012 774 00:28:09,430 --> 00:28:08,320 did anything significant happen to you 775 00:28:11,990 --> 00:28:09,440 in your life 776 00:28:13,350 --> 00:28:12,000 even closely related either side 2011 to 777 00:28:15,590 --> 00:28:13,360 2013 778 00:28:17,029 --> 00:28:15,600 specifically 2012 but 779 00:28:19,190 --> 00:28:17,039 somewhere in that range did anything 780 00:28:21,029 --> 00:28:19,200 specifically 781 00:28:22,310 --> 00:28:21,039 life-altering perhaps maybe something 782 00:28:24,070 --> 00:28:22,320 you didn't realize at the time but it's 783 00:28:24,950 --> 00:28:24,080 now currently affecting you take place 784 00:28:26,950 --> 00:28:24,960 in your life because that is something 785 00:28:28,389 --> 00:28:26,960 i've always been curious about to see if 786 00:28:29,909 --> 00:28:28,399 it uh 787 00:28:31,990 --> 00:28:29,919 if other people had an experience that 788 00:28:33,830 --> 00:28:32,000 way at all 789 00:28:35,590 --> 00:28:33,840 and it looks like everybody's having a 790 00:28:38,230 --> 00:28:35,600 good time we're having nachos i see i 791 00:28:40,389 --> 00:28:38,240 see tacos i see drinks 792 00:28:42,149 --> 00:28:40,399 which means uh 793 00:28:43,750 --> 00:28:42,159 you met your wife just before is with 794 00:28:47,029 --> 00:28:43,760 what ben says so funny enough then same 795 00:28:48,310 --> 00:28:47,039 thing here that was the year i met i met 796 00:28:50,710 --> 00:28:48,320 my wife 797 00:28:56,789 --> 00:28:52,990 2012 uh 798 00:28:59,190 --> 00:28:56,799 2012 was kind of rough for 509. uh 799 00:29:01,190 --> 00:28:59,200 he had a rough year 800 00:29:02,549 --> 00:29:01,200 uh let's see 801 00:29:04,389 --> 00:29:02,559 tammy 802 00:29:06,230 --> 00:29:04,399 just 420. i mean i don't think that 803 00:29:07,590 --> 00:29:06,240 needs an explanation right i don't think 804 00:29:09,190 --> 00:29:07,600 we even need to 805 00:29:11,350 --> 00:29:09,200 try to come up with an answer there it 806 00:29:13,669 --> 00:29:11,360 just is what it is and we're gonna go 807 00:29:16,149 --> 00:29:13,679 with it 808 00:29:17,669 --> 00:29:16,159 uh well van gogh i'm sorry to hear that 809 00:29:19,830 --> 00:29:17,679 uh 810 00:29:22,070 --> 00:29:19,840 but sometimes i mean i don't know can't 811 00:29:23,510 --> 00:29:22,080 speak to your situation but sometimes 812 00:29:25,110 --> 00:29:23,520 i don't know maybe was that a good thing 813 00:29:26,630 --> 00:29:25,120 bad thing i don't know but it is 814 00:29:29,350 --> 00:29:26,640 interesting that it seems like a lot of 815 00:29:30,789 --> 00:29:29,360 people either cement their 816 00:29:33,909 --> 00:29:30,799 took a little nap and got to be up here 817 00:29:35,830 --> 00:29:33,919 soon oh this is from the chad smith 818 00:29:37,269 --> 00:29:35,840 ladies and gentlemen as we all know 819 00:29:39,750 --> 00:29:37,279 internet legend 820 00:29:41,350 --> 00:29:39,760 man myth legend himself in our chat 821 00:29:42,549 --> 00:29:41,360 tonight 822 00:29:44,630 --> 00:29:42,559 uh 823 00:29:45,990 --> 00:29:44,640 if you guys 824 00:29:48,310 --> 00:29:46,000 already don't feel jealous about having 825 00:29:51,750 --> 00:29:48,320 him in the chat just know i'm gonna meet 826 00:29:52,950 --> 00:29:51,760 him in person soon here at a library 827 00:29:54,710 --> 00:29:52,960 and we're gonna party really hard in 828 00:29:56,549 --> 00:29:54,720 that library they're gonna be like shh 829 00:29:58,310 --> 00:29:56,559 we're like no 830 00:30:00,310 --> 00:29:58,320 we're not gonna sh and we're gonna party 831 00:30:02,389 --> 00:30:00,320 really hard in there for sure 832 00:30:05,190 --> 00:30:02,399 uh you also met your your third wife 833 00:30:07,430 --> 00:30:05,200 that same here well van gogh see like 834 00:30:09,269 --> 00:30:07,440 there you go that is i mean that's just 835 00:30:11,669 --> 00:30:09,279 that's how it goes 836 00:30:12,789 --> 00:30:11,679 i think 12. okay so this one says sunny 837 00:30:14,870 --> 00:30:12,799 said 838 00:30:17,110 --> 00:30:14,880 i think 2012 is the year i seen that big 839 00:30:18,870 --> 00:30:17,120 black silent triangle above my house 840 00:30:21,029 --> 00:30:18,880 very interesting 841 00:30:23,110 --> 00:30:21,039 uh luis what up montana by the way 842 00:30:24,710 --> 00:30:23,120 brother what's up uh he also mentioned 843 00:30:27,110 --> 00:30:24,720 obviously the mandela which yeah i mean 844 00:30:28,870 --> 00:30:27,120 that's when a lot of people really 845 00:30:30,630 --> 00:30:28,880 i think there were a couple people who 846 00:30:32,310 --> 00:30:30,640 were looking at it but it wasn't quite 847 00:30:36,230 --> 00:30:32,320 mainstream 848 00:30:37,990 --> 00:30:36,240 just yet at that time uh 849 00:30:39,669 --> 00:30:38,000 okay so jamie lynn you had an 850 00:30:42,789 --> 00:30:39,679 interesting one here uh your aura 851 00:30:45,430 --> 00:30:42,799 changed a lot 2012 and 13. 852 00:30:46,710 --> 00:30:45,440 interesting now do you mean by this do 853 00:30:48,789 --> 00:30:46,720 you mean that you recognized your own 854 00:30:50,230 --> 00:30:48,799 aura changing or did others 855 00:30:51,909 --> 00:30:50,240 identify this for you if you don't mind 856 00:30:53,909 --> 00:30:51,919 my asking 857 00:30:55,110 --> 00:30:53,919 uh yeah i mean again maybe we're all 858 00:30:56,950 --> 00:30:55,120 reading too much in it because i'm sure 859 00:30:58,070 --> 00:30:56,960 let's be fair listen 860 00:30:59,110 --> 00:30:58,080 i guess i can say this while we're 861 00:31:01,110 --> 00:30:59,120 waiting for just a second hopefully we 862 00:31:02,310 --> 00:31:01,120 can get jess back here i will always say 863 00:31:03,830 --> 00:31:02,320 this anytime i come in here on these 864 00:31:05,110 --> 00:31:03,840 weekends for you guys we hop in the van 865 00:31:06,070 --> 00:31:05,120 and we go out for a spin before we park 866 00:31:06,789 --> 00:31:06,080 her back in the garage at the end of the 867 00:31:08,789 --> 00:31:06,799 day 868 00:31:10,470 --> 00:31:08,799 i will always try to bring you guys fun 869 00:31:12,470 --> 00:31:10,480 entertaining but accurate information if 870 00:31:15,269 --> 00:31:12,480 i get something wrong please reach out 871 00:31:17,909 --> 00:31:15,279 let me know and we'll try to have the 872 00:31:20,310 --> 00:31:17,919 best we can of fairness doctrine going 873 00:31:21,909 --> 00:31:20,320 uh forward meaning i will always try to 874 00:31:23,909 --> 00:31:21,919 give both sides of the story if at all 875 00:31:25,990 --> 00:31:23,919 possible 876 00:31:27,509 --> 00:31:26,000 all right 877 00:31:29,750 --> 00:31:27,519 i can't hear you yeah can you hear me 878 00:31:31,350 --> 00:31:29,760 okay yeah i can hear you okay 879 00:31:32,389 --> 00:31:31,360 perfect are you okay with trying this 880 00:31:33,509 --> 00:31:32,399 for at least a little bit we'll see how 881 00:31:35,669 --> 00:31:33,519 this goes 882 00:31:38,070 --> 00:31:35,679 yeah yeah we can do this i'm sorry about 883 00:31:39,750 --> 00:31:38,080 that no no worries it was listen i was 884 00:31:45,669 --> 00:31:39,760 on me uh 885 00:31:45,679 --> 00:31:53,509 he just cut out again 886 00:31:53,519 --> 00:31:58,389 i don't know what to do 887 00:32:03,350 --> 00:32:00,710 all right i think i cut out for a second 888 00:32:08,230 --> 00:32:06,470 i don't know what's going on 889 00:32:10,310 --> 00:32:08,240 this is crazy 890 00:32:13,509 --> 00:32:10,320 you know what it is it's cern 891 00:32:16,389 --> 00:32:13,519 it could be they're stopping us 892 00:32:18,310 --> 00:32:16,399 i had zero issues when we did our last 893 00:32:21,750 --> 00:32:18,320 one with you we had more people on and 894 00:32:23,269 --> 00:32:21,760 shared way more live videos i know 895 00:32:25,269 --> 00:32:23,279 oh man 896 00:32:28,630 --> 00:32:25,279 so well i'm trying to 897 00:32:31,990 --> 00:32:28,640 my husband's bringing in a 898 00:32:33,830 --> 00:32:32,000 he's bringing in a booster so we'll see 899 00:32:35,909 --> 00:32:33,840 if that will help 900 00:32:37,269 --> 00:32:35,919 yeah no problem so what i did while you 901 00:32:38,310 --> 00:32:37,279 were gone is i just was kind of asking i 902 00:32:40,149 --> 00:32:38,320 went through and asked everybody if they 903 00:32:43,350 --> 00:32:40,159 had anything significant happen in their 904 00:32:44,710 --> 00:32:43,360 life in 2012 or even close to it 905 00:32:47,909 --> 00:32:44,720 and there's quite a few people who had 906 00:32:49,750 --> 00:32:47,919 either seen some crafts or had some like 907 00:32:52,389 --> 00:32:49,760 in my experience and ben's we both met 908 00:32:55,430 --> 00:32:52,399 our wives that year some people parted 909 00:32:57,110 --> 00:32:55,440 with their current uh mate in life and 910 00:33:00,230 --> 00:32:57,120 so it's kind of interesting to to see 911 00:33:01,029 --> 00:33:00,240 how that all panned out for everybody 912 00:33:03,590 --> 00:33:01,039 uh 913 00:33:04,789 --> 00:33:03,600 chad smith says he thinks 914 00:33:05,909 --> 00:33:04,799 ext 915 00:33:08,549 --> 00:33:05,919 he said that he thinks maybe there's a 916 00:33:10,950 --> 00:33:08,559 solar storm going on and that could be 917 00:33:12,950 --> 00:33:10,960 i don't know 918 00:33:14,549 --> 00:33:12,960 uh so 919 00:33:15,750 --> 00:33:14,559 let's see 920 00:33:18,710 --> 00:33:15,760 oh 921 00:33:20,389 --> 00:33:18,720 well guys let me tell you 922 00:33:24,149 --> 00:33:20,399 if this is not 923 00:33:26,310 --> 00:33:24,159 the ufo garage style way right here 924 00:33:28,549 --> 00:33:26,320 this is literally the embodiment of of 925 00:33:31,430 --> 00:33:28,559 what this show's about you keep rolling 926 00:33:33,430 --> 00:33:31,440 you just keep going and i promise there 927 00:33:34,470 --> 00:33:33,440 will be information there at the end of 928 00:33:35,830 --> 00:33:34,480 the day so going back to what i was 929 00:33:36,870 --> 00:33:35,840 saying a second ago about the fairness 930 00:33:38,870 --> 00:33:36,880 doctrine 931 00:33:40,070 --> 00:33:38,880 whatever we cover i will try to look at 932 00:33:42,070 --> 00:33:40,080 it from both points of view so when i 933 00:33:43,110 --> 00:33:42,080 asked oh did anything happen in 2012 to 934 00:33:44,870 --> 00:33:43,120 be fair i could have asked you did 935 00:33:46,470 --> 00:33:44,880 anything happen in your life in 2000 and 936 00:33:47,909 --> 00:33:46,480 something probably happened i mean 937 00:33:49,830 --> 00:33:47,919 that's 938 00:33:51,350 --> 00:33:49,840 so i'm not taking away from anybody but 939 00:33:52,950 --> 00:33:51,360 i think it is interesting to see like 940 00:33:55,029 --> 00:33:52,960 certain ones having seen craft like in 941 00:33:57,669 --> 00:33:55,039 your situation sunny um 942 00:33:59,350 --> 00:33:57,679 i don't know i definitely think 943 00:34:01,190 --> 00:33:59,360 the whole enlightenment or people 944 00:34:02,549 --> 00:34:01,200 starting to take a step up and and i 945 00:34:05,190 --> 00:34:02,559 know this term gets beaten to the ground 946 00:34:06,789 --> 00:34:05,200 but the the waking up process 947 00:34:08,310 --> 00:34:06,799 uh it definitely started to change a 948 00:34:10,310 --> 00:34:08,320 little bit really quick by the way guys 949 00:34:12,310 --> 00:34:10,320 uh am i still okay because i noticed 950 00:34:14,310 --> 00:34:12,320 that i did go out for a second there so 951 00:34:15,829 --> 00:34:14,320 can everybody still hear me all right 952 00:34:17,430 --> 00:34:15,839 looks like i think i'm good on my end 953 00:34:18,790 --> 00:34:17,440 but 954 00:34:19,909 --> 00:34:18,800 you know if you're not watching it you 955 00:34:21,909 --> 00:34:19,919 don't know you're just kind of like 956 00:34:24,470 --> 00:34:21,919 maybe i'm good maybe i'm not oh i still 957 00:34:25,669 --> 00:34:24,480 got i still got chats comment up here 958 00:34:28,950 --> 00:34:25,679 not that it wasn't worth putting up 959 00:34:30,149 --> 00:34:28,960 there but it was it was stuck for sure 960 00:34:31,750 --> 00:34:30,159 all right so we're looking good all 961 00:34:33,270 --> 00:34:31,760 right well it looks like right now jess 962 00:34:35,030 --> 00:34:33,280 is going to get her 963 00:34:36,710 --> 00:34:35,040 to try and get a booster set of her and 964 00:34:38,149 --> 00:34:36,720 we're gonna get her back in here really 965 00:34:40,710 --> 00:34:38,159 quick for you guys 966 00:34:42,629 --> 00:34:40,720 have you guys um 967 00:34:44,869 --> 00:34:42,639 how many of you guys have looked into 968 00:34:46,950 --> 00:34:44,879 the mandela effect i know that i look 969 00:34:48,790 --> 00:34:46,960 i'm pulling a joe now i'm sitting here 970 00:34:50,230 --> 00:34:48,800 like hey guys uh 971 00:34:52,149 --> 00:34:50,240 you know i'd like to hear your thoughts 972 00:34:54,550 --> 00:34:52,159 on this what do you think do you think 973 00:34:59,190 --> 00:34:54,560 you're gonna respond to me right now 974 00:35:01,109 --> 00:34:59,200 does sir know about mpt um 975 00:35:02,790 --> 00:35:01,119 ben i can barely read words 976 00:35:05,589 --> 00:35:02,800 we have to tell me what is the acronym 977 00:35:09,030 --> 00:35:05,599 of mpt because i i don't know 978 00:35:11,910 --> 00:35:09,040 i don't know what the acronym for mpt is 979 00:35:17,829 --> 00:35:13,589 so 980 00:35:18,950 --> 00:35:17,839 the way yeah i can always um what i'll 981 00:35:20,150 --> 00:35:18,960 do is i'll send you something just in 982 00:35:21,750 --> 00:35:20,160 case it does 983 00:35:23,349 --> 00:35:21,760 can you know kind of stick with it or 984 00:35:25,109 --> 00:35:23,359 whatever or if we keep having some 985 00:35:27,750 --> 00:35:25,119 issues but yeah 986 00:35:28,950 --> 00:35:27,760 what what is pt for because i just 987 00:35:32,310 --> 00:35:28,960 anybody else know what that stands for 988 00:35:33,910 --> 00:35:32,320 in there because i don't know 989 00:35:36,150 --> 00:35:33,920 unless that's uh 990 00:35:39,349 --> 00:35:36,160 almost an emp shield but that's 991 00:35:42,310 --> 00:35:39,359 that's for a different show right there 992 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:47,670 all right 993 00:35:50,550 --> 00:35:48,710 uh 994 00:35:52,390 --> 00:35:50,560 my 995 00:35:53,750 --> 00:35:52,400 masturbation propulsion technology dang 996 00:35:55,910 --> 00:35:53,760 it i'm so ashamed right now i should 997 00:35:58,230 --> 00:35:55,920 have known that i was taking it so 998 00:35:59,750 --> 00:35:58,240 serious too dude i really was i was like 999 00:36:03,190 --> 00:35:59,760 all right i gotta i gotta be serious 1000 00:36:06,069 --> 00:36:03,200 about this he's asking me and i 1001 00:36:09,750 --> 00:36:06,079 literally had no clue 1002 00:36:10,829 --> 00:36:09,760 oh man that's the way it goes 1003 00:36:15,190 --> 00:36:10,839 let's see 1004 00:36:18,069 --> 00:36:15,200 on here 1005 00:36:19,750 --> 00:36:18,079 uh i had a question but obviously 1006 00:36:22,069 --> 00:36:19,760 i can't ask the question because we 1007 00:36:23,910 --> 00:36:22,079 don't we don't have just this just yet 1008 00:36:26,390 --> 00:36:23,920 but i will say for this too guys if 1009 00:36:27,750 --> 00:36:26,400 you've looked into um 1010 00:36:29,990 --> 00:36:27,760 that's where i was going with it with 1011 00:36:31,589 --> 00:36:30,000 the idea with the uh 1012 00:36:34,230 --> 00:36:31,599 okay so jess says she's fixing as fast 1013 00:36:37,829 --> 00:36:34,240 as she can and she'll be back soon so 1014 00:36:39,589 --> 00:36:37,839 with the mandela effect stuff um and i'm 1015 00:36:42,630 --> 00:36:39,599 not even gonna go into it like try and 1016 00:36:44,230 --> 00:36:42,640 go into it more without her but she 1017 00:36:45,910 --> 00:36:44,240 there was an episode we did i don't even 1018 00:36:46,950 --> 00:36:45,920 recall the time i had but if anybody's 1019 00:36:48,790 --> 00:36:46,960 interested i don't know if this is a lot 1020 00:36:49,750 --> 00:36:48,800 or not i think it's okay 1021 00:36:51,349 --> 00:36:49,760 joe and ben have talked about checking 1022 00:36:52,710 --> 00:36:51,359 us out before we can check out our our 1023 00:36:55,270 --> 00:36:52,720 podcast as well that i do with my 1024 00:36:56,790 --> 00:36:55,280 brother the bob podcast the bobb banner 1025 00:36:58,550 --> 00:36:56,800 beer brothers my brother actually has a 1026 00:37:01,270 --> 00:36:58,560 real beard i have like a pretender's 1027 00:37:03,030 --> 00:37:01,280 beard he has a real man's beard like joe 1028 00:37:04,390 --> 00:37:03,040 and 1029 00:37:06,470 --> 00:37:04,400 the gentleman we had on there brian 1030 00:37:07,910 --> 00:37:06,480 stavely he really went really deep on it 1031 00:37:09,510 --> 00:37:07,920 i don't even recall time i had what 1032 00:37:11,030 --> 00:37:09,520 episode that was for us but it was it 1033 00:37:12,150 --> 00:37:11,040 wasn't that far back it was in the 50s 1034 00:37:13,349 --> 00:37:12,160 somewhere in there 1035 00:37:14,390 --> 00:37:13,359 you guys could go check that one out if 1036 00:37:15,750 --> 00:37:14,400 you wanted and that would give you a 1037 00:37:18,069 --> 00:37:15,760 really good understanding of what the 1038 00:37:19,030 --> 00:37:18,079 mandela effect is um because most of 1039 00:37:21,030 --> 00:37:19,040 stuff like if you go online right now 1040 00:37:23,030 --> 00:37:21,040 and you google it it's so stupid in some 1041 00:37:23,990 --> 00:37:23,040 ways in my opinion because it's a 50 50 1042 00:37:25,910 --> 00:37:24,000 question 1043 00:37:27,190 --> 00:37:25,920 and even if you were just guessing 1044 00:37:28,550 --> 00:37:27,200 you're gonna get some right you're gonna 1045 00:37:29,910 --> 00:37:28,560 get some wrong 1046 00:37:31,670 --> 00:37:29,920 what he does that's really unique is he 1047 00:37:33,190 --> 00:37:31,680 just asks the question he'll just pose a 1048 00:37:34,790 --> 00:37:33,200 question so like for all of you guys 1049 00:37:35,829 --> 00:37:34,800 right now i'll just do this for the for 1050 00:37:37,109 --> 00:37:35,839 the fun of it in the chat for you guys 1051 00:37:39,750 --> 00:37:37,119 to think about 1052 00:37:41,750 --> 00:37:39,760 do you guys uh does jess have a website 1053 00:37:43,829 --> 00:37:41,760 i don't think she does tammy but when 1054 00:37:45,349 --> 00:37:43,839 she gets back i will ask her and if she 1055 00:37:46,790 --> 00:37:45,359 does i'll definitely have that pop like 1056 00:37:48,069 --> 00:37:46,800 put up for you guys 1057 00:37:49,589 --> 00:37:48,079 excuse me how do you guys remember the 1058 00:37:51,270 --> 00:37:49,599 monopoly man 1059 00:37:53,270 --> 00:37:51,280 apollo what's up we're actually gonna be 1060 00:37:54,550 --> 00:37:53,280 talking about your name uh tonight a 1061 00:37:56,230 --> 00:37:54,560 little bit 1062 00:37:57,990 --> 00:37:56,240 did you purposely pick that name and 1063 00:38:01,910 --> 00:37:58,000 based on the 1064 00:38:03,349 --> 00:38:01,920 the the god from from the olden days or 1065 00:38:04,790 --> 00:38:03,359 anyways 1066 00:38:07,990 --> 00:38:04,800 it's a controlled media rewriting 1067 00:38:10,310 --> 00:38:08,000 history yeah so uh sunsaver that that's 1068 00:38:12,470 --> 00:38:10,320 not impossible um i i'm not saying 1069 00:38:15,430 --> 00:38:12,480 that's impossible um 1070 00:38:18,470 --> 00:38:15,440 but there seems to be some unique 1071 00:38:20,630 --> 00:38:18,480 memories like for me i watched a lot of 1072 00:38:22,790 --> 00:38:20,640 i love lucy growing up and you did pick 1073 00:38:24,550 --> 00:38:22,800 the name based on that very nice 1074 00:38:26,310 --> 00:38:24,560 and so for me i always knew ricky 1075 00:38:28,470 --> 00:38:26,320 ricardo for like a couple lines and one 1076 00:38:30,310 --> 00:38:28,480 of his main lines 1077 00:38:31,910 --> 00:38:30,320 that like when lucy would mess up he 1078 00:38:33,190 --> 00:38:31,920 would always say this this was the main 1079 00:38:34,630 --> 00:38:33,200 line he would say do you guys remember 1080 00:38:35,829 --> 00:38:34,640 he'd like come up and he'd say it and 1081 00:38:37,990 --> 00:38:35,839 he'd kind of point his finger at her 1082 00:38:40,950 --> 00:38:38,000 like this 1083 00:38:43,670 --> 00:38:40,960 jess what's up welcome back 1084 00:38:45,349 --> 00:38:43,680 i think i got it i had to move sorry 1085 00:38:46,790 --> 00:38:45,359 look at you haven't even cool look at 1086 00:38:48,230 --> 00:38:46,800 your room now it's like i'm gonna try 1087 00:38:49,670 --> 00:38:48,240 and blow it up oh not me we don't need 1088 00:38:50,950 --> 00:38:49,680 me up here hang on 1089 00:38:53,670 --> 00:38:50,960 look at that what do you got going on in 1090 00:38:55,349 --> 00:38:53,680 the back that's some of my artwork 1091 00:38:56,390 --> 00:38:55,359 oh very nice everybody by the way did 1092 00:39:00,069 --> 00:38:56,400 love the last room you ran they were 1093 00:39:03,109 --> 00:39:00,079 like i wish i had that much 1094 00:39:05,430 --> 00:39:03,119 um so yeah we were just stalling for 1095 00:39:07,030 --> 00:39:05,440 time and uh no problem tell your husband 1096 00:39:08,630 --> 00:39:07,040 thank you so much and i appreciate you 1097 00:39:10,150 --> 00:39:08,640 working through it i'm sorry i know you 1098 00:39:11,910 --> 00:39:10,160 guys were like probably running around 1099 00:39:13,430 --> 00:39:11,920 like crazy back there to get 1100 00:39:16,150 --> 00:39:13,440 well there wasn't a lot of running there 1101 00:39:18,950 --> 00:39:16,160 was a lot of carrying equipment and and 1102 00:39:19,829 --> 00:39:18,960 pollen but yeah 1103 00:39:21,430 --> 00:39:19,839 okay 1104 00:39:22,630 --> 00:39:21,440 um but since we were asking that 1105 00:39:24,230 --> 00:39:22,640 question 1106 00:39:26,150 --> 00:39:24,240 oh hey what's up how's it going nice to 1107 00:39:27,750 --> 00:39:26,160 meet you 1108 00:39:31,190 --> 00:39:27,760 this is mike thank you very much he 1109 00:39:33,910 --> 00:39:31,200 fixed the problem thank you mike 1110 00:39:35,829 --> 00:39:33,920 like the it guy no problem mike the i.t 1111 00:39:36,550 --> 00:39:35,839 guy 1112 00:39:39,109 --> 00:39:36,560 so 1113 00:39:41,030 --> 00:39:39,119 jess i was going to ask you uh 1114 00:39:43,589 --> 00:39:41,040 do you remember we were talking a little 1115 00:39:45,670 --> 00:39:43,599 bit of uh mandela effect stuff 1116 00:39:47,270 --> 00:39:45,680 do you remember the the line that ricky 1117 00:39:49,270 --> 00:39:47,280 ricardo would always say to lucy when 1118 00:39:50,950 --> 00:39:49,280 she would mess up 1119 00:39:51,990 --> 00:39:50,960 do you remember he's got some explaining 1120 00:39:53,750 --> 00:39:52,000 to do 1121 00:39:55,750 --> 00:39:53,760 yeah so that's that's the one i remember 1122 00:39:57,670 --> 00:39:55,760 too right and who just said it somebody 1123 00:39:59,190 --> 00:39:57,680 just uh lucy you're in trouble that's 1124 00:40:00,870 --> 00:39:59,200 close but yeah i remember he said lucio 1125 00:40:02,069 --> 00:40:00,880 got some explaining to do 1126 00:40:04,630 --> 00:40:02,079 and that was like the one that stuck 1127 00:40:05,910 --> 00:40:04,640 with me and now it's nowhere uh so back 1128 00:40:07,030 --> 00:40:05,920 to your point i think was van gogh to 1129 00:40:08,470 --> 00:40:07,040 mention it so i got the name wrong i 1130 00:40:11,190 --> 00:40:08,480 apologize but 1131 00:40:13,270 --> 00:40:11,200 you can't find it on anything dvds old 1132 00:40:15,349 --> 00:40:13,280 vhs's that your grandparents recorded 1133 00:40:17,750 --> 00:40:15,359 anything it's gone it's like it just 1134 00:40:19,030 --> 00:40:17,760 it's gone not exist 1135 00:40:22,790 --> 00:40:19,040 mandela 1136 00:40:25,430 --> 00:40:22,800 yeah heck yeah so um you you can find it 1137 00:40:28,630 --> 00:40:25,440 though in common everyday videos and 1138 00:40:31,190 --> 00:40:28,640 stuff they it's it's in the zeitgeist so 1139 00:40:35,349 --> 00:40:31,200 it's used often um in 1140 00:40:36,630 --> 00:40:35,359 newer tv shows it's quoted in movies 1141 00:40:39,589 --> 00:40:36,640 um you just can't find it in the 1142 00:40:41,109 --> 00:40:39,599 original anymore which is a little odd 1143 00:40:43,589 --> 00:40:41,119 yup 1144 00:40:45,030 --> 00:40:43,599 yeah which is kind of the idea that 1145 00:40:47,349 --> 00:40:45,040 you know there's the residue right i 1146 00:40:49,190 --> 00:40:47,359 could i could see like i could see 1147 00:40:50,390 --> 00:40:49,200 remembering something wrong myself but 1148 00:40:52,069 --> 00:40:50,400 where it gets weird for me with the 1149 00:40:53,750 --> 00:40:52,079 mandela stuff is that what are the 1150 00:40:54,790 --> 00:40:53,760 chances if i don't tell you hey just 1151 00:40:56,390 --> 00:40:54,800 pick one of the other and you just come 1152 00:40:57,829 --> 00:40:56,400 up with the answers on your own 1153 00:40:59,190 --> 00:40:57,839 what are the chances that you're doing 1154 00:41:01,589 --> 00:40:59,200 that on your own and we all have that 1155 00:41:03,190 --> 00:41:01,599 same collective memory that just seems 1156 00:41:04,230 --> 00:41:03,200 the probability of five people who don't 1157 00:41:06,230 --> 00:41:04,240 know each other have an exact same 1158 00:41:08,230 --> 00:41:06,240 memory on something is like it's got to 1159 00:41:10,550 --> 00:41:08,240 be astronomical i mean i'm not going to 1160 00:41:13,190 --> 00:41:10,560 pretend to know but it's going to be out 1161 00:41:15,750 --> 00:41:13,200 of this world as far as the chances 1162 00:41:18,390 --> 00:41:15,760 yeah absolutely um 1163 00:41:21,030 --> 00:41:18,400 i'm a firm believer in mandela now how 1164 00:41:22,790 --> 00:41:21,040 it's how it happened um 1165 00:41:24,150 --> 00:41:22,800 a lot of people of course i know you've 1166 00:41:26,069 --> 00:41:24,160 already been talking about this 1167 00:41:27,589 --> 00:41:26,079 obviously is um 1168 00:41:28,790 --> 00:41:27,599 them starting the hadron collider and 1169 00:41:31,030 --> 00:41:28,800 then finding the 1170 00:41:32,870 --> 00:41:31,040 the higgs boson 1171 00:41:34,710 --> 00:41:32,880 and i had mentioned 1172 00:41:35,670 --> 00:41:34,720 what a lot of people don't realize is 1173 00:41:37,109 --> 00:41:35,680 that 1174 00:41:40,230 --> 00:41:37,119 at the same time they were trying to 1175 00:41:42,069 --> 00:41:40,240 find the higgs boson they were also 1176 00:41:44,150 --> 00:41:42,079 trying to find something called the 1177 00:41:45,990 --> 00:41:44,160 higgs singlet 1178 00:41:47,910 --> 00:41:46,000 um something they didn't 1179 00:41:50,230 --> 00:41:47,920 yeah they didn't make a big deal out of 1180 00:41:51,030 --> 00:41:50,240 it um because 1181 00:41:52,470 --> 00:41:51,040 uh 1182 00:41:53,910 --> 00:41:52,480 what it is 1183 00:41:56,150 --> 00:41:53,920 is a little 1184 00:41:58,309 --> 00:41:56,160 fanciful um and i think they didn't 1185 00:42:00,630 --> 00:41:58,319 really want to put it in the forefront 1186 00:42:04,390 --> 00:42:00,640 too much basically what the 1187 00:42:08,390 --> 00:42:04,400 higgs singlet is is a proton 1188 00:42:13,670 --> 00:42:10,790 um it could be sent back in time it 1189 00:42:15,430 --> 00:42:13,680 could be sent forward in time 1190 00:42:17,589 --> 00:42:15,440 and they thought that when they found 1191 00:42:19,589 --> 00:42:17,599 the higgs boson that the higgs singlet 1192 00:42:21,270 --> 00:42:19,599 would come along with it however they 1193 00:42:22,630 --> 00:42:21,280 said that they didn't find it but 1194 00:42:24,950 --> 00:42:22,640 there's a lot of people that believe 1195 00:42:25,750 --> 00:42:24,960 that they did 1196 00:42:28,550 --> 00:42:25,760 um 1197 00:42:30,470 --> 00:42:28,560 yeah it wasn't mentioned a lot and 1198 00:42:32,069 --> 00:42:30,480 and then suddenly they were like well 1199 00:42:33,670 --> 00:42:32,079 when it was brought up they're like oh 1200 00:42:34,870 --> 00:42:33,680 we didn't we didn't find it when we 1201 00:42:38,710 --> 00:42:34,880 found the 1202 00:42:40,790 --> 00:42:38,720 higgs boson so did they didn't they um 1203 00:42:42,470 --> 00:42:40,800 a lot of people think that they did here 1204 00:42:45,270 --> 00:42:42,480 in the last 1205 00:42:47,670 --> 00:42:45,280 i think it was during yeah it was during 1206 00:42:50,790 --> 00:42:47,680 uh 2020 when the whole 1207 00:42:53,990 --> 00:42:50,800 crazy um pandemic started um they were 1208 00:42:55,589 --> 00:42:54,000 trying to send particles back in time 1209 00:42:58,390 --> 00:42:55,599 they're they're uh 1210 00:43:00,150 --> 00:42:58,400 yeah and a lot of people think that they 1211 00:43:03,109 --> 00:43:00,160 did find the higgs singlet and that was 1212 00:43:06,230 --> 00:43:03,119 part of that um 1213 00:43:08,790 --> 00:43:06,240 uh part of what they were trying to do 1214 00:43:10,150 --> 00:43:08,800 and i could be wrong but for request for 1215 00:43:12,230 --> 00:43:10,160 lewis's question here what about the god 1216 00:43:14,309 --> 00:43:12,240 particle 2012 that is the higgs boson 1217 00:43:15,750 --> 00:43:14,319 correct that's just like the concept we 1218 00:43:17,109 --> 00:43:15,760 just call it the god particle but i 1219 00:43:18,550 --> 00:43:17,119 think that is that is what she's 1220 00:43:19,750 --> 00:43:18,560 discussing so 1221 00:43:21,589 --> 00:43:19,760 um yeah someone else brought up an 1222 00:43:22,870 --> 00:43:21,599 interesting point well they they're this 1223 00:43:24,790 --> 00:43:22,880 is just their thought they said that 1224 00:43:27,670 --> 00:43:24,800 they made nikola tesla vanish for over 1225 00:43:28,870 --> 00:43:27,680 80 years maybe but i mean that one could 1226 00:43:30,309 --> 00:43:28,880 have literally just been that the way 1227 00:43:32,390 --> 00:43:30,319 that the history books were written in 1228 00:43:34,390 --> 00:43:32,400 thomas edison and all that that went 1229 00:43:35,430 --> 00:43:34,400 down so i'm not saying it's impossible 1230 00:43:37,109 --> 00:43:35,440 but 1231 00:43:38,950 --> 00:43:37,119 could have that one that one seems to 1232 00:43:40,630 --> 00:43:38,960 have been a little bit more uh but you 1233 00:43:42,309 --> 00:43:40,640 are right it is weird how it was 1234 00:43:44,069 --> 00:43:42,319 like never heard of the guy hardly and 1235 00:43:46,069 --> 00:43:44,079 then all of a sudden we all of a sudden 1236 00:43:48,710 --> 00:43:46,079 like in 2012 we were like 1237 00:43:51,109 --> 00:43:48,720 tesla like you've never heard of this so 1238 00:43:52,630 --> 00:43:51,119 um yeah it's hard to say with this stuff 1239 00:43:54,550 --> 00:43:52,640 because 1240 00:43:56,069 --> 00:43:54,560 why don't you give your hypothesis since 1241 00:43:58,069 --> 00:43:56,079 we're dealing with the the the god 1242 00:43:59,510 --> 00:43:58,079 particle right now what is your if if 1243 00:44:02,230 --> 00:43:59,520 things went down 1244 00:44:03,589 --> 00:44:02,240 the way the way that they might have or 1245 00:44:06,790 --> 00:44:03,599 in your own words what do you think's 1246 00:44:08,390 --> 00:44:06,800 got happened here if in your own words 1247 00:44:11,190 --> 00:44:08,400 i'm 1248 00:44:12,870 --> 00:44:11,200 i tend to lean more towards um 1249 00:44:13,910 --> 00:44:12,880 multiverse 1250 00:44:15,589 --> 00:44:13,920 um 1251 00:44:19,270 --> 00:44:15,599 a lot of a lot of the things that i've 1252 00:44:20,150 --> 00:44:19,280 looked into really lean that way um 1253 00:44:21,270 --> 00:44:20,160 and 1254 00:44:23,430 --> 00:44:21,280 uh 1255 00:44:25,270 --> 00:44:23,440 i absolutely believe 1256 00:44:37,750 --> 00:44:25,280 that 1257 00:44:40,069 --> 00:44:37,760 happening in the world today 1258 00:44:43,190 --> 00:44:40,079 when they turned that collider on in 1259 00:44:46,550 --> 00:44:43,200 2012 like i was talking about before all 1260 00:44:52,150 --> 00:44:49,430 too many things happened all in one 1261 00:44:54,069 --> 00:44:52,160 little year for there to have not 1262 00:44:55,349 --> 00:44:54,079 been an outside effect 1263 00:44:58,390 --> 00:44:55,359 um 1264 00:45:02,550 --> 00:44:58,400 uh and of course you had the whole 2012 1265 00:45:03,750 --> 00:45:02,560 uh mayan calendar thing that went on um 1266 00:45:05,349 --> 00:45:03,760 and a lot of people were like well it's 1267 00:45:07,430 --> 00:45:05,359 the end of the world because the the 1268 00:45:10,309 --> 00:45:07,440 mayan calendar is ending but what a lot 1269 00:45:12,150 --> 00:45:10,319 of people don't know is that while yes 1270 00:45:14,069 --> 00:45:12,160 that calendar ended there was another 1271 00:45:15,750 --> 00:45:14,079 one due to begin 1272 00:45:17,990 --> 00:45:15,760 um however 1273 00:45:21,190 --> 00:45:18,000 that calendar was supposed to be a new 1274 00:45:24,470 --> 00:45:21,200 beginning calendar a new world 1275 00:45:25,270 --> 00:45:24,480 um and a lot of other um 1276 00:45:26,150 --> 00:45:25,280 the 1277 00:45:29,750 --> 00:45:26,160 uh 1278 00:45:31,190 --> 00:45:29,760 the astronomy calendar also was the same 1279 00:45:32,950 --> 00:45:31,200 some uh 1280 00:45:35,589 --> 00:45:32,960 one world was ending and a new world was 1281 00:45:37,510 --> 00:45:35,599 beginning and it was that same year 1282 00:45:40,470 --> 00:45:37,520 um and a lot of other crazy stuff 1283 00:45:42,309 --> 00:45:40,480 happened that year um and that's when um 1284 00:45:43,510 --> 00:45:42,319 synchronicities 1285 00:45:45,589 --> 00:45:43,520 began 1286 00:45:48,230 --> 00:45:45,599 if you go back and look at people who 1287 00:45:49,829 --> 00:45:48,240 report odd synchronicities happening you 1288 00:45:52,630 --> 00:45:49,839 don't really see it happen 1289 00:45:53,589 --> 00:45:52,640 before 2012 that's really when 1290 00:45:57,270 --> 00:45:53,599 that 1291 00:46:01,750 --> 00:45:59,589 and everything else across the board 1292 00:46:03,670 --> 00:46:01,760 went crazy that year so 1293 00:46:07,670 --> 00:46:03,680 anything cryptid-wise anything 1294 00:46:10,230 --> 00:46:07,680 alien-wise anything um ufo-wise uh 1295 00:46:12,710 --> 00:46:10,240 paranormal um 1296 00:46:14,790 --> 00:46:12,720 weird cataclysmic um 1297 00:46:16,150 --> 00:46:14,800 things happening out in space here on 1298 00:46:17,190 --> 00:46:16,160 earth 1299 00:46:21,670 --> 00:46:17,200 it was just 1300 00:46:23,910 --> 00:46:21,680 insane and it all started after july 4th 1301 00:46:27,430 --> 00:46:23,920 which happens to be the day 1302 00:46:29,510 --> 00:46:27,440 that they found the higgs boson 1303 00:46:30,870 --> 00:46:29,520 and i just can't imagine 1304 00:46:31,990 --> 00:46:30,880 that 1305 00:46:34,150 --> 00:46:32,000 um 1306 00:46:36,150 --> 00:46:34,160 it's all coincidental 1307 00:46:37,510 --> 00:46:36,160 i think there's uh everything kind of 1308 00:46:38,390 --> 00:46:37,520 has everything to do with everything 1309 00:46:40,390 --> 00:46:38,400 else 1310 00:46:41,349 --> 00:46:40,400 um and i think it leads back to that 1311 00:46:43,270 --> 00:46:41,359 date 1312 00:46:45,190 --> 00:46:43,280 and i hate to sound all conspiracy 1313 00:46:47,750 --> 00:46:45,200 theorists um but 1314 00:46:52,069 --> 00:46:47,760 every time i look into something 1315 00:46:54,870 --> 00:46:52,079 it leads back to 2012 in some fashion 1316 00:46:56,390 --> 00:46:54,880 as as some something as simple as like a 1317 00:46:57,910 --> 00:46:56,400 cryptid that popped up somewhere 1318 00:47:00,230 --> 00:46:57,920 something will lead back 1319 00:47:03,109 --> 00:47:00,240 to 2012. 1320 00:47:04,630 --> 00:47:03,119 it's really odd and uh the mandela 1321 00:47:05,910 --> 00:47:04,640 effect of course 1322 00:47:07,910 --> 00:47:05,920 is the worst 1323 00:47:10,630 --> 00:47:07,920 um and i think that's frankly just 1324 00:47:12,230 --> 00:47:10,640 because i kind of believe what stephen 1325 00:47:13,030 --> 00:47:12,240 hawking said 1326 00:47:16,150 --> 00:47:13,040 that 1327 00:47:17,589 --> 00:47:16,160 it would send our universe into a decay 1328 00:47:21,030 --> 00:47:17,599 and that 1329 00:47:22,710 --> 00:47:21,040 it would destroy it and if my multiverse 1330 00:47:25,190 --> 00:47:22,720 theories are correct 1331 00:47:26,710 --> 00:47:25,200 then we would have been 1332 00:47:28,309 --> 00:47:26,720 part of us would have stayed behind 1333 00:47:29,910 --> 00:47:28,319 probably and just been destroyed and 1334 00:47:32,150 --> 00:47:29,920 part of us would have moved over into 1335 00:47:34,470 --> 00:47:32,160 the next closest line and i think that 1336 00:47:37,190 --> 00:47:34,480 might be where we are residing right now 1337 00:47:38,950 --> 00:47:37,200 and anyone who has mandela effect 1338 00:47:40,470 --> 00:47:38,960 is remembering what it was like in our 1339 00:47:42,710 --> 00:47:40,480 old line 1340 00:47:45,750 --> 00:47:42,720 and all the people that don't remember 1341 00:47:48,549 --> 00:47:45,760 this is from the line that we are now in 1342 00:47:51,430 --> 00:47:49,990 does that make sense 1343 00:47:52,870 --> 00:47:51,440 yeah no 1344 00:47:53,990 --> 00:47:52,880 and i've always wondered about that 1345 00:47:56,069 --> 00:47:54,000 whereas 1346 00:47:57,670 --> 00:47:56,079 does it mean that 1347 00:47:59,030 --> 00:47:57,680 i mean that 1348 00:48:01,190 --> 00:47:59,040 i mean i guess in a sense does that mean 1349 00:48:02,870 --> 00:48:01,200 that an existence of you if there is 1350 00:48:04,390 --> 00:48:02,880 other versions of you you know according 1351 00:48:05,750 --> 00:48:04,400 to to what their belief in the 1352 00:48:07,510 --> 00:48:05,760 multiverse is 1353 00:48:09,750 --> 00:48:07,520 if there are these other versions of 1354 00:48:12,150 --> 00:48:09,760 jess in the multiverse 1355 00:48:13,349 --> 00:48:12,160 can two exist in one timeline i don't 1356 00:48:14,950 --> 00:48:13,359 know i don't know what the rules on this 1357 00:48:16,549 --> 00:48:14,960 are i think like we always based off the 1358 00:48:18,069 --> 00:48:16,559 idea of like hollywood stuff like oh you 1359 00:48:19,829 --> 00:48:18,079 could never exist in yourself in the 1360 00:48:21,990 --> 00:48:19,839 same timeline all this stuff but i don't 1361 00:48:24,069 --> 00:48:22,000 know man i i mean 1362 00:48:25,990 --> 00:48:24,079 i don't know that we know that you think 1363 00:48:27,190 --> 00:48:26,000 if the particles exist and their matter 1364 00:48:27,990 --> 00:48:27,200 is there 1365 00:48:29,910 --> 00:48:28,000 then 1366 00:48:32,069 --> 00:48:29,920 why does it matter if there's more than 1367 00:48:33,510 --> 00:48:32,079 one particle i guess that's where the 1368 00:48:35,109 --> 00:48:33,520 quantum entanglement would kind of come 1369 00:48:36,390 --> 00:48:35,119 in play and perhaps there's some sort of 1370 00:48:39,030 --> 00:48:36,400 law of the universe we don't know about 1371 00:48:39,990 --> 00:48:39,040 the way to prevent this from happening 1372 00:48:41,910 --> 00:48:40,000 but i'm going to be the first one to 1373 00:48:43,750 --> 00:48:41,920 tell you right now i do not know enough 1374 00:48:45,510 --> 00:48:43,760 about any of that to get an educated 1375 00:48:46,950 --> 00:48:45,520 opinion 1376 00:48:49,990 --> 00:48:46,960 i don't either 1377 00:48:51,750 --> 00:48:50,000 um i always try to explain it so 1378 00:48:54,549 --> 00:48:51,760 um 1379 00:48:56,230 --> 00:48:54,559 there's one of us in every line 1380 00:48:58,150 --> 00:48:56,240 so how could you move over into another 1381 00:48:59,430 --> 00:48:58,160 line where you already exist 1382 00:49:00,950 --> 00:48:59,440 i kind of 1383 00:49:04,470 --> 00:49:00,960 i explain it 1384 00:49:06,230 --> 00:49:04,480 in the easiest terms um a fairy ring so 1385 00:49:07,510 --> 00:49:06,240 we all know that a fairy ring is a 1386 00:49:09,829 --> 00:49:07,520 mushroom 1387 00:49:12,790 --> 00:49:09,839 right does everybody know that i know 1388 00:49:15,670 --> 00:49:12,800 that it's a yeah it's well a fairy room 1389 00:49:18,069 --> 00:49:15,680 ring is a giant mushroom and what 1390 00:49:20,069 --> 00:49:18,079 happens is there's a central 1391 00:49:23,109 --> 00:49:20,079 core underground 1392 00:49:26,470 --> 00:49:23,119 and it sends off shoots out 1393 00:49:28,230 --> 00:49:26,480 underground and then those sprout up as 1394 00:49:29,510 --> 00:49:28,240 little what we see as little individual 1395 00:49:32,470 --> 00:49:29,520 mushrooms 1396 00:49:33,990 --> 00:49:32,480 but it's all one organism it's all one 1397 00:49:36,390 --> 00:49:34,000 mushroom 1398 00:49:38,309 --> 00:49:36,400 so if you come across and you kick one 1399 00:49:40,309 --> 00:49:38,319 of those mushroom heads 1400 00:49:43,349 --> 00:49:40,319 it dies off 1401 00:49:45,589 --> 00:49:43,359 but the rest of them haven't so any 1402 00:49:48,710 --> 00:49:45,599 energy and thing that would be going to 1403 00:49:50,950 --> 00:49:48,720 that particular sprout now 1404 00:49:51,910 --> 00:49:50,960 moves over into the next ones but it's 1405 00:49:54,150 --> 00:49:51,920 still 1406 00:49:57,829 --> 00:49:54,160 the same organism 1407 00:49:58,790 --> 00:49:57,839 so you've got to think of it like 1408 00:50:00,309 --> 00:49:58,800 like 1409 00:50:02,470 --> 00:50:00,319 oh they just mentioned it too it's so 1410 00:50:04,069 --> 00:50:02,480 it's like mycelium basically 1411 00:50:05,190 --> 00:50:04,079 but but called something a little 1412 00:50:06,470 --> 00:50:05,200 different 1413 00:50:09,190 --> 00:50:06,480 it's like the brain of the mushroom 1414 00:50:11,109 --> 00:50:09,200 right like the roots system yeah right 1415 00:50:12,309 --> 00:50:11,119 okay all right now i do know okay i knew 1416 00:50:14,309 --> 00:50:12,319 what my psyllium was i just didn't know 1417 00:50:16,150 --> 00:50:14,319 what the uh the fairy ring was that's 1418 00:50:17,430 --> 00:50:16,160 that's another interesting tool so i'll 1419 00:50:19,190 --> 00:50:17,440 keep my eye out that's what that's what 1420 00:50:21,430 --> 00:50:19,200 a fairy ring is so you always see the 1421 00:50:23,430 --> 00:50:21,440 big circle of mushrooms it's literally 1422 00:50:26,390 --> 00:50:23,440 one mushroom but those are all of its 1423 00:50:28,069 --> 00:50:26,400 little you know sprouts coming out um 1424 00:50:31,109 --> 00:50:28,079 you kill one 1425 00:50:32,549 --> 00:50:31,119 it rescinds back and those nutrients go 1426 00:50:34,150 --> 00:50:32,559 back to the other one so you can kind of 1427 00:50:35,190 --> 00:50:34,160 think of it that way 1428 00:50:37,670 --> 00:50:35,200 um 1429 00:50:40,390 --> 00:50:37,680 so and that may elsewhere that might be 1430 00:50:43,190 --> 00:50:40,400 where the mandela effect comes from so a 1431 00:50:46,230 --> 00:50:43,200 lot of people say that 1432 00:50:48,950 --> 00:50:46,240 ndes near death experiences 1433 00:50:52,150 --> 00:50:48,960 are actually where you have died 1434 00:50:54,309 --> 00:50:52,160 you died in that line and you move over 1435 00:50:56,150 --> 00:50:54,319 but you didn't die in that in the new 1436 00:50:59,109 --> 00:50:56,160 line that you've moved into 1437 00:51:01,349 --> 00:50:59,119 um so you you've perished in one line 1438 00:51:03,750 --> 00:51:01,359 you move over into the next line 1439 00:51:06,150 --> 00:51:03,760 and a lot of people have that weird 1440 00:51:07,910 --> 00:51:06,160 feeling like something bad did happen 1441 00:51:08,790 --> 00:51:07,920 but they're okay and they can't explain 1442 00:51:09,910 --> 00:51:08,800 why 1443 00:51:11,750 --> 00:51:09,920 um 1444 00:51:14,309 --> 00:51:11,760 that there would explain a mandela 1445 00:51:17,510 --> 00:51:14,319 effect because 1446 00:51:19,910 --> 00:51:17,520 you have kind of a two brain 1447 00:51:21,670 --> 00:51:19,920 idea in one line now you've lived one 1448 00:51:23,109 --> 00:51:21,680 person has one side of you has lived in 1449 00:51:24,710 --> 00:51:23,119 this line 1450 00:51:27,030 --> 00:51:24,720 and the other side of you has lived in 1451 00:51:28,390 --> 00:51:27,040 this other line and now they've moved 1452 00:51:29,190 --> 00:51:28,400 together 1453 00:51:30,549 --> 00:51:29,200 and 1454 00:51:31,829 --> 00:51:30,559 it probably would have been about just 1455 00:51:33,990 --> 00:51:31,839 about the same life that there's 1456 00:51:36,710 --> 00:51:34,000 probably a few little minor differences 1457 00:51:39,430 --> 00:51:36,720 here and there so now your your own mind 1458 00:51:41,750 --> 00:51:39,440 is conflicted with itself because 1459 00:51:43,190 --> 00:51:41,760 you've had two lines joined together i 1460 00:51:44,150 --> 00:51:43,200 have no idea if that makes any sense to 1461 00:51:47,589 --> 00:51:44,160 you 1462 00:51:49,510 --> 00:51:47,599 funny that i keep relating everything 1463 00:51:51,349 --> 00:51:49,520 back to loki lately for me when i'm like 1464 00:51:52,390 --> 00:51:51,359 when i deal with the the multiverse i'm 1465 00:51:54,390 --> 00:51:52,400 just like all right i'm gonna deal with 1466 00:51:56,230 --> 00:51:54,400 loki and i keep it at loki and that how 1467 00:51:58,470 --> 00:51:56,240 they explained it and and then i'm able 1468 00:52:00,390 --> 00:51:58,480 to to to comprehend it and i just keep 1469 00:52:02,230 --> 00:52:00,400 it there because otherwise otherwise it 1470 00:52:03,270 --> 00:52:02,240 gets too complicated and i recognize my 1471 00:52:04,549 --> 00:52:03,280 own uh 1472 00:52:06,230 --> 00:52:04,559 not that it's a bad thing but my own 1473 00:52:07,349 --> 00:52:06,240 ignorance on the the subject where it's 1474 00:52:09,349 --> 00:52:07,359 like i'm gonna give this opinion but 1475 00:52:11,270 --> 00:52:09,359 it's an uneducated ignorant opinion you 1476 00:52:13,990 --> 00:52:11,280 know 1477 00:52:16,710 --> 00:52:14,000 i i say the same i don't i don't claim 1478 00:52:18,390 --> 00:52:16,720 to know all the ins and outs i can't sit 1479 00:52:21,349 --> 00:52:18,400 here and tell you string theory or 1480 00:52:23,190 --> 00:52:21,359 anything like that i can just kind of 1481 00:52:25,030 --> 00:52:23,200 regurgitate a little bit of what i've 1482 00:52:27,270 --> 00:52:25,040 read and understood 1483 00:52:29,349 --> 00:52:27,280 um i will i will be the first to tell 1484 00:52:31,829 --> 00:52:29,359 you that i have sat down with like three 1485 00:52:33,750 --> 00:52:31,839 books at a time because to read one book 1486 00:52:35,109 --> 00:52:33,760 i'd have to stop and look at something 1487 00:52:35,829 --> 00:52:35,119 in the next book 1488 00:52:37,270 --> 00:52:35,839 and 1489 00:52:39,190 --> 00:52:37,280 look up what i read in that book in the 1490 00:52:40,630 --> 00:52:39,200 next one to try to figure out what it 1491 00:52:42,870 --> 00:52:40,640 was i was reading in the first one all 1492 00:52:45,030 --> 00:52:42,880 along i'm not that bright when it comes 1493 00:52:47,109 --> 00:52:45,040 to science um 1494 00:52:48,950 --> 00:52:47,119 but what little bit i do know 1495 00:52:50,309 --> 00:52:48,960 i think is super exciting i wish i had 1496 00:52:53,190 --> 00:52:50,319 the brain 1497 00:52:55,270 --> 00:52:53,200 to comprehend it a little bit better 1498 00:52:56,710 --> 00:52:55,280 i'm just a lowly artist so 1499 00:52:58,870 --> 00:52:56,720 oh i wouldn't go i wouldn't be saying 1500 00:53:00,470 --> 00:52:58,880 all that i think 1501 00:53:01,990 --> 00:53:00,480 i i think 1502 00:53:03,510 --> 00:53:02,000 going back to something that and i don't 1503 00:53:05,430 --> 00:53:03,520 think dave's in here but if he was he 1504 00:53:07,109 --> 00:53:05,440 david is fractal i'm gonna say the word 1505 00:53:09,589 --> 00:53:07,119 fractal one more time fractal for just 1506 00:53:11,510 --> 00:53:09,599 for your sensitive fears fractal um i do 1507 00:53:13,349 --> 00:53:11,520 think that we all are these pieces of 1508 00:53:15,990 --> 00:53:13,359 consciousness and i do think that when 1509 00:53:17,589 --> 00:53:16,000 we get together and we share ideas even 1510 00:53:19,910 --> 00:53:17,599 if we are not 1511 00:53:22,549 --> 00:53:19,920 in the eyes of man and what we've deemed 1512 00:53:23,829 --> 00:53:22,559 as intelligent and what's educated 1513 00:53:25,750 --> 00:53:23,839 which i'm not taking away from those 1514 00:53:28,069 --> 00:53:25,760 things because there are some amazing 1515 00:53:29,990 --> 00:53:28,079 people who work at cern fires they're 1516 00:53:32,630 --> 00:53:30,000 their minds they have beautiful minds 1517 00:53:34,549 --> 00:53:32,640 like they might maybe not socially be 1518 00:53:35,829 --> 00:53:34,559 you know there in some aspects like 1519 00:53:37,589 --> 00:53:35,839 their dancing skills and that other 1520 00:53:39,430 --> 00:53:37,599 stuff but like their minds when it comes 1521 00:53:41,430 --> 00:53:39,440 to mathematics and the actual inter 1522 00:53:43,190 --> 00:53:41,440 workings of the universe as a whole and 1523 00:53:47,030 --> 00:53:43,200 with their attempt to understand it 1524 00:53:48,470 --> 00:53:47,040 amazing but i do think that sometimes 1525 00:53:49,910 --> 00:53:48,480 and i love that ben and joe on the show 1526 00:53:51,510 --> 00:53:49,920 here have always reached out to people 1527 00:53:53,270 --> 00:53:51,520 that weren't the main person that 1528 00:53:55,190 --> 00:53:53,280 everybody's talking to because 1529 00:53:56,309 --> 00:53:55,200 if we're just regurgitating that same 1530 00:53:57,750 --> 00:53:56,319 thing over and over it's like but 1531 00:53:59,910 --> 00:53:57,760 there's more that's like taking you know 1532 00:54:01,190 --> 00:53:59,920 we got a thousand piece puzzle we're 1533 00:54:02,470 --> 00:54:01,200 only working with five pieces and 1534 00:54:03,829 --> 00:54:02,480 everybody's getting information from the 1535 00:54:05,829 --> 00:54:03,839 same five to ten pieces and it's like 1536 00:54:08,549 --> 00:54:05,839 guys there is everything else out here 1537 00:54:09,910 --> 00:54:08,559 and it's different and that's okay your 1538 00:54:11,109 --> 00:54:09,920 puzzle piece doesn't have to match 1539 00:54:12,390 --> 00:54:11,119 perfectly to that one some of them are 1540 00:54:13,349 --> 00:54:12,400 going to interlock and fit and go you 1541 00:54:15,430 --> 00:54:13,359 know what 1542 00:54:17,109 --> 00:54:15,440 my story fits i had an encounter i had 1543 00:54:18,710 --> 00:54:17,119 an experience so similar to that and 1544 00:54:19,750 --> 00:54:18,720 some of these experiences might be so 1545 00:54:20,950 --> 00:54:19,760 far off the board from you that you 1546 00:54:22,230 --> 00:54:20,960 don't recognize them because they're the 1547 00:54:24,470 --> 00:54:22,240 outer end of the board you know the 1548 00:54:25,750 --> 00:54:24,480 picture and i just i always feel that we 1549 00:54:26,870 --> 00:54:25,760 should share 1550 00:54:28,549 --> 00:54:26,880 let it be shared and it's going to 1551 00:54:30,309 --> 00:54:28,559 resonate with someone and i and i think 1552 00:54:32,950 --> 00:54:30,319 people know 1553 00:54:34,870 --> 00:54:32,960 when people are being genuine or not and 1554 00:54:36,950 --> 00:54:34,880 and i feel like we've always had a here 1555 00:54:38,309 --> 00:54:36,960 at the garage like genuine people so and 1556 00:54:39,990 --> 00:54:38,319 you're a genuine person to know yourself 1557 00:54:41,109 --> 00:54:40,000 so i don't think anyone and we explained 1558 00:54:42,870 --> 00:54:41,119 that earlier like if we get something 1559 00:54:45,109 --> 00:54:42,880 wrong let us know we're doing the best 1560 00:54:46,630 --> 00:54:45,119 we can yeah like 1561 00:54:49,510 --> 00:54:46,640 you know absolutely 1562 00:54:50,390 --> 00:54:49,520 if i say something stupid let me know 1563 00:54:51,829 --> 00:54:50,400 cause 1564 00:54:53,190 --> 00:54:51,839 yeah i've 1565 00:54:55,430 --> 00:54:53,200 i've been known to get some bad 1566 00:54:57,589 --> 00:54:55,440 information before and found out later 1567 00:54:58,950 --> 00:54:57,599 you know you never know who's 1568 00:55:00,710 --> 00:54:58,960 and if you find it on the internet 1569 00:55:02,150 --> 00:55:00,720 there's a very good chance that it's 1570 00:55:03,349 --> 00:55:02,160 wrong or 1571 00:55:05,030 --> 00:55:03,359 oh this is yeah 1572 00:55:06,230 --> 00:55:05,040 so tammy says tammy's been a great 1573 00:55:07,430 --> 00:55:06,240 supporter of the show by the philando 1574 00:55:08,870 --> 00:55:07,440 she said she would love to spend a few 1575 00:55:10,309 --> 00:55:08,880 hours around the campfire with jess so 1576 00:55:13,109 --> 00:55:10,319 look at that see 1577 00:55:15,109 --> 00:55:13,119 look at that oh that would be fun 1578 00:55:17,589 --> 00:55:15,119 oh i also saw 1579 00:55:19,109 --> 00:55:17,599 i also saw she said so are there sad 1580 00:55:21,349 --> 00:55:19,119 loved ones 1581 00:55:24,150 --> 00:55:21,359 in that old line 1582 00:55:25,270 --> 00:55:24,160 um absolutely so 1583 00:55:27,510 --> 00:55:25,280 um 1584 00:55:30,230 --> 00:55:27,520 for okay let's let's hypothetically set 1585 00:55:33,270 --> 00:55:30,240 this up so say um 1586 00:55:34,710 --> 00:55:33,280 you get into a car accident and 1587 00:55:38,549 --> 00:55:34,720 you die 1588 00:55:40,150 --> 00:55:38,559 but you move over into the next line 1589 00:55:42,230 --> 00:55:40,160 and you didn't die in that car accident 1590 00:55:44,230 --> 00:55:42,240 you barely made it out now of course in 1591 00:55:46,069 --> 00:55:44,240 that line you're not gonna know that you 1592 00:55:47,190 --> 00:55:46,079 died in the previous line 1593 00:55:49,430 --> 00:55:47,200 but 1594 00:55:51,670 --> 00:55:49,440 there may be grieving loved ones back 1595 00:55:53,589 --> 00:55:51,680 there just like in any time somebody 1596 00:55:57,510 --> 00:55:53,599 passes um 1597 00:56:00,390 --> 00:55:57,520 uh one of our investigators um pam 1598 00:56:02,789 --> 00:56:00,400 she has a fantastic theory about that um 1599 00:56:04,950 --> 00:56:02,799 and that's how we get hauntings 1600 00:56:07,430 --> 00:56:04,960 um because 1601 00:56:09,910 --> 00:56:07,440 people have moved over they say 1602 00:56:13,109 --> 00:56:09,920 still can touch base back with that old 1603 00:56:15,109 --> 00:56:13,119 line just a little bit 1604 00:56:17,990 --> 00:56:15,119 and she thinks that sometimes when we 1605 00:56:20,150 --> 00:56:18,000 dream we can dream about and be in some 1606 00:56:23,430 --> 00:56:20,160 of those older lines 1607 00:56:26,150 --> 00:56:23,440 and so you may show up as a ghost 1608 00:56:27,589 --> 00:56:26,160 to that old line 1609 00:56:29,670 --> 00:56:27,599 and perhaps somebody that touches back 1610 00:56:32,630 --> 00:56:29,680 to their old lines a lot 1611 00:56:34,870 --> 00:56:32,640 are the chronic hunters 1612 00:56:35,750 --> 00:56:34,880 in the previous lines you see how that 1613 00:56:41,109 --> 00:56:35,760 might 1614 00:56:42,950 --> 00:56:41,119 in fact a really interesting a really 1615 00:56:44,950 --> 00:56:42,960 interesting little side note to that a 1616 00:56:46,789 --> 00:56:44,960 lot of scientists believe 1617 00:56:50,549 --> 00:56:46,799 that who do believe in multiverses 1618 00:56:51,510 --> 00:56:50,559 believe that's how we get schizophrenics 1619 00:56:52,630 --> 00:56:51,520 um 1620 00:56:54,950 --> 00:56:52,640 because 1621 00:56:58,150 --> 00:56:54,960 they say that every time you 1622 00:57:00,069 --> 00:56:58,160 uh you die you don't actually die die 1623 00:57:02,549 --> 00:57:00,079 you just simply pass into another line 1624 00:57:04,789 --> 00:57:02,559 then the closest one to you and they say 1625 00:57:06,789 --> 00:57:04,799 that schizophrenics are the people that 1626 00:57:08,950 --> 00:57:06,799 have literally passed through so many 1627 00:57:10,870 --> 00:57:08,960 lines that they are living in all of 1628 00:57:12,710 --> 00:57:10,880 them at once in their head 1629 00:57:13,829 --> 00:57:12,720 and they have no need to talk to us 1630 00:57:16,309 --> 00:57:13,839 anymore 1631 00:57:18,470 --> 00:57:16,319 because they're literally existing 1632 00:57:23,190 --> 00:57:18,480 in all of those lines all at once and it 1633 00:57:24,309 --> 00:57:23,200 will look like complete insanity to us 1634 00:57:25,750 --> 00:57:24,319 so 1635 00:57:27,349 --> 00:57:25,760 i mean i'm not saying you're wrong 1636 00:57:28,950 --> 00:57:27,359 because i i've often wondered about that 1637 00:57:31,510 --> 00:57:28,960 i've always wondered if 1638 00:57:33,510 --> 00:57:31,520 i heard actually an sr the other night 1639 00:57:35,750 --> 00:57:33,520 um nicole was mentioning that and she 1640 00:57:37,030 --> 00:57:35,760 was saying that um people who have 1641 00:57:38,710 --> 00:57:37,040 mental health issues or particularly 1642 00:57:41,190 --> 00:57:38,720 people with schizophrenia sometimes have 1643 00:57:43,670 --> 00:57:41,200 some of the the they're they're very uh 1644 00:57:45,829 --> 00:57:43,680 psychic and they just don't recognize it 1645 00:57:48,069 --> 00:57:45,839 and so it i mean 1646 00:57:50,150 --> 00:57:48,079 i i'm not saying any that's impossible i 1647 00:57:52,630 --> 00:57:50,160 think it's very uh again none of us 1648 00:57:53,990 --> 00:57:52,640 really know right unless you're yeah 1649 00:57:55,510 --> 00:57:54,000 someone who studied this stuff and you 1650 00:57:56,710 --> 00:57:55,520 know for sure like when it comes to 1651 00:57:58,069 --> 00:57:56,720 studying the actual particles and the 1652 00:57:59,670 --> 00:57:58,079 breakdowns because to be fair that is 1653 00:58:00,870 --> 00:57:59,680 what they're doing there they are the 1654 00:58:03,829 --> 00:58:00,880 whole point i guess we never even hit on 1655 00:58:06,549 --> 00:58:03,839 that is that we're smashing these two um 1656 00:58:07,750 --> 00:58:06,559 crap is it protons i might be wrong yes 1657 00:58:11,190 --> 00:58:07,760 protons 1658 00:58:12,950 --> 00:58:11,200 analyze the particles that are coming 1659 00:58:14,549 --> 00:58:12,960 out of that which are so microscopic you 1660 00:58:16,390 --> 00:58:14,559 can't see and they have the particle 1661 00:58:17,670 --> 00:58:16,400 analyzer that's all set up and then 1662 00:58:18,870 --> 00:58:17,680 they're like it was amazing i was 1663 00:58:20,390 --> 00:58:18,880 watching them trying to explain it and 1664 00:58:21,430 --> 00:58:20,400 like they explained it to like a 1665 00:58:22,870 --> 00:58:21,440 five-year-old could understand it i 1666 00:58:24,549 --> 00:58:22,880 still had to watch like five times and i 1667 00:58:26,710 --> 00:58:24,559 still was like i don't know i know but 1668 00:58:28,230 --> 00:58:26,720 they're they're taking proton poop 1669 00:58:30,309 --> 00:58:28,240 essentially and they're like 1670 00:58:31,829 --> 00:58:30,319 understanding the matter from that but 1671 00:58:33,109 --> 00:58:31,839 there's they found the higgs boson and 1672 00:58:34,470 --> 00:58:33,119 all that 1673 00:58:35,990 --> 00:58:34,480 it was amazing because it's something it 1674 00:58:37,990 --> 00:58:36,000 can't it doesn't exist as soon as it 1675 00:58:40,470 --> 00:58:38,000 exists it's gone it's something like i i 1676 00:58:42,230 --> 00:58:40,480 was like 10 1 millionths of 2 seconds or 1677 00:58:43,670 --> 00:58:42,240 something it was unbelievable so it's 1678 00:58:45,349 --> 00:58:43,680 here and it's gone 1679 00:58:47,270 --> 00:58:45,359 but with them doing this and they're 1680 00:58:49,190 --> 00:58:47,280 smashing i think it's one in every was 1681 00:58:51,510 --> 00:58:49,200 it 40 million every 40 million 1682 00:58:53,430 --> 00:58:51,520 collisions 1683 00:58:55,190 --> 00:58:53,440 so if that's the case if they are 1684 00:58:56,870 --> 00:58:55,200 getting this and they're trying to 1685 00:58:58,150 --> 00:58:56,880 harvest antimatter and things like that 1686 00:58:59,910 --> 00:58:58,160 and produce that 1687 00:59:02,950 --> 00:58:59,920 um 1688 00:59:04,710 --> 00:59:02,960 one could hypothesize that that perhaps 1689 00:59:05,990 --> 00:59:04,720 from 2012 on when they finally just 1690 00:59:07,750 --> 00:59:06,000 realized that they had done this but 1691 00:59:10,150 --> 00:59:07,760 they've been doing it for a little bit 1692 00:59:11,910 --> 00:59:10,160 that maybe they did cause these issues 1693 00:59:14,390 --> 00:59:11,920 these crossovers where people are living 1694 00:59:15,589 --> 00:59:14,400 in different timelines or they feel like 1695 00:59:17,030 --> 00:59:15,599 the timeline that they're in is no 1696 00:59:18,789 --> 00:59:17,040 longer the same that's where the mandela 1697 00:59:20,870 --> 00:59:18,799 effect and some of that comes into place 1698 00:59:22,630 --> 00:59:20,880 heck even some of our ancient history 1699 00:59:24,470 --> 00:59:22,640 now some that i think is just wrong 1700 00:59:25,990 --> 00:59:24,480 anyways i think it's just whatever 1701 00:59:27,589 --> 00:59:26,000 version they ran with so that's maybe a 1702 00:59:28,710 --> 00:59:27,599 little different 1703 00:59:29,990 --> 00:59:28,720 but 1704 00:59:31,910 --> 00:59:30,000 essentially we've always been taught 1705 00:59:32,789 --> 00:59:31,920 that you can neither create or destroy 1706 00:59:34,309 --> 00:59:32,799 energy 1707 00:59:35,510 --> 00:59:34,319 and in a sense if i understood it 1708 00:59:37,270 --> 00:59:35,520 correctly 1709 00:59:38,870 --> 00:59:37,280 they're creating energy 1710 00:59:41,430 --> 00:59:38,880 like they're harnessing 1711 00:59:42,870 --> 00:59:41,440 energy that didn't exist so in a sense 1712 00:59:45,109 --> 00:59:42,880 they're creating energy and again i 1713 00:59:46,069 --> 00:59:45,119 could be totally wrong about that 1714 00:59:48,069 --> 00:59:46,079 but 1715 00:59:49,829 --> 00:59:48,079 that's amazing if they're doing that 1716 00:59:51,190 --> 00:59:49,839 um and i could see how 1717 00:59:53,109 --> 00:59:51,200 because we don't fully understand the 1718 00:59:55,109 --> 00:59:53,119 laws of physics just yet i mean we're 1719 00:59:57,589 --> 00:59:55,119 ever learning i i really think that a 1720 00:59:58,870 --> 00:59:57,599 lot of things could be affected 1721 01:00:00,549 --> 00:59:58,880 especially with the idea of quantum 1722 01:00:04,150 --> 01:00:00,559 entanglement if if you're affecting 1723 01:00:06,309 --> 01:00:04,160 those particles in this timeline in this 1724 01:00:08,309 --> 01:00:06,319 universe that we exist under this uh 1725 01:00:10,230 --> 01:00:08,319 level of existence and it's entangled 1726 01:00:12,390 --> 01:00:10,240 with another timeline or another 1727 01:00:14,069 --> 01:00:12,400 universe multi-universe then how you 1728 01:00:16,150 --> 01:00:14,079 what you do here to that should affect 1729 01:00:17,670 --> 01:00:16,160 that one there right i would think yeah 1730 01:00:21,510 --> 01:00:17,680 absolutely 1731 01:00:22,549 --> 01:00:21,520 um if that if my theory is true about 1732 01:00:24,390 --> 01:00:22,559 you know 1733 01:00:26,870 --> 01:00:24,400 we all exist within all the lines at the 1734 01:00:28,630 --> 01:00:26,880 same time if we exist within all the 1735 01:00:30,069 --> 01:00:28,640 lines at all the same time so does 1736 01:00:30,870 --> 01:00:30,079 everything else 1737 01:00:32,150 --> 01:00:30,880 so 1738 01:00:34,390 --> 01:00:32,160 you would think it would be like a 1739 01:00:37,109 --> 01:00:34,400 butterfly effect if something happens in 1740 01:00:38,870 --> 01:00:37,119 one it should ripple 1741 01:00:39,910 --> 01:00:38,880 ripple across 1742 01:00:42,549 --> 01:00:39,920 um 1743 01:00:46,470 --> 01:00:42,559 so yeah i absolutely i absolutely think 1744 01:00:48,069 --> 01:00:46,480 that um and then finding the higgs boson 1745 01:00:49,349 --> 01:00:48,079 and a lot of people don't realize is 1746 01:00:50,910 --> 01:00:49,359 that um 1747 01:00:53,589 --> 01:00:50,920 the boson is 1748 01:00:55,750 --> 01:00:53,599 extremely unstable 1749 01:00:58,309 --> 01:00:55,760 and all the scientists that 1750 01:00:59,430 --> 01:00:58,319 that were in part of the experiment know 1751 01:01:01,190 --> 01:00:59,440 this 1752 01:01:02,950 --> 01:01:01,200 um and all of them claimed they were 1753 01:01:05,510 --> 01:01:02,960 like one day 1754 01:01:07,510 --> 01:01:05,520 the the higgs is gonna break down it's 1755 01:01:10,390 --> 01:01:07,520 gonna go over the top 1756 01:01:12,390 --> 01:01:10,400 and it's gonna cause a vacuum in space 1757 01:01:14,710 --> 01:01:12,400 and it's basically going to turn us 1758 01:01:16,630 --> 01:01:14,720 inside out is what it's going to do so 1759 01:01:18,870 --> 01:01:16,640 imagine like a black hole 1760 01:01:20,789 --> 01:01:18,880 wrapping in on itself and sucking itself 1761 01:01:21,990 --> 01:01:20,799 back through that's what they're waiting 1762 01:01:24,710 --> 01:01:22,000 on to happen 1763 01:01:27,030 --> 01:01:24,720 most of those scientists will tell you 1764 01:01:28,950 --> 01:01:27,040 oh it's not going to happen for 1765 01:01:31,510 --> 01:01:28,960 millions of years 1766 01:01:33,750 --> 01:01:31,520 we yeah we found it but it it won't go 1767 01:01:35,190 --> 01:01:33,760 unstable until then and then there's the 1768 01:01:37,910 --> 01:01:35,200 other half of the scientists that are 1769 01:01:38,950 --> 01:01:37,920 like it already happened you crazy 1770 01:01:41,670 --> 01:01:38,960 people 1771 01:01:43,829 --> 01:01:41,680 um and there's a lot of uh there's a lot 1772 01:01:46,630 --> 01:01:43,839 of thing little things that kind of lead 1773 01:01:49,510 --> 01:01:46,640 to that too um 1774 01:01:51,190 --> 01:01:49,520 we were discussing earlier backstage we 1775 01:01:52,549 --> 01:01:51,200 were talking about the 1776 01:01:56,870 --> 01:01:52,559 silly video 1777 01:01:58,710 --> 01:01:56,880 that cern put out with the crazy dancing 1778 01:02:01,109 --> 01:01:58,720 i'll just i'll just go over a little bit 1779 01:02:02,870 --> 01:02:01,119 for the listeners who or the people are 1780 01:02:04,789 --> 01:02:02,880 watching that may not know about this 1781 01:02:07,349 --> 01:02:04,799 ridiculous video so 1782 01:02:11,430 --> 01:02:07,359 um a number of years ago cern put out a 1783 01:02:13,430 --> 01:02:11,440 video to the song happy 1784 01:02:15,589 --> 01:02:13,440 you can get up on youtube and watch it 1785 01:02:18,230 --> 01:02:15,599 it's it's up there it's a short little 1786 01:02:21,589 --> 01:02:18,240 video and it was supposed to be um like 1787 01:02:23,270 --> 01:02:21,599 a recruiting type video for the interns 1788 01:02:24,789 --> 01:02:23,280 that worked at cern 1789 01:02:26,230 --> 01:02:24,799 and they were wanting more interns and 1790 01:02:27,430 --> 01:02:26,240 it was basically them just dancing 1791 01:02:28,789 --> 01:02:27,440 around 1792 01:02:31,029 --> 01:02:28,799 like they were 1793 01:02:32,789 --> 01:02:31,039 excitingly happy about working at cern 1794 01:02:34,549 --> 01:02:32,799 and they're dancing around the collider 1795 01:02:35,910 --> 01:02:34,559 and they're dancing around all this 1796 01:02:37,990 --> 01:02:35,920 equipment 1797 01:02:40,069 --> 01:02:38,000 and it's really bad it's horrible 1798 01:02:41,750 --> 01:02:40,079 dancing i warn anybody who goes and 1799 01:02:43,190 --> 01:02:41,760 watches it 1800 01:02:45,190 --> 01:02:43,200 wash your eyes out when they're done 1801 01:02:47,029 --> 01:02:45,200 because it's bad 1802 01:02:49,270 --> 01:02:47,039 but in the middle of all this yeah in 1803 01:02:52,309 --> 01:02:49,280 the middle of all this ridiculousness 1804 01:02:53,670 --> 01:02:52,319 suddenly it changes scenes and it goes 1805 01:02:55,349 --> 01:02:53,680 to this 1806 01:02:57,589 --> 01:02:55,359 one scientist office and i don't know 1807 01:03:00,470 --> 01:02:57,599 which scientist it is but he's sitting 1808 01:03:03,829 --> 01:03:00,480 behind his desk and he's got 1809 01:03:05,670 --> 01:03:03,839 two boards on strings 1810 01:03:07,990 --> 01:03:05,680 around his neck 1811 01:03:08,789 --> 01:03:08,000 and one of them says 1812 01:03:10,390 --> 01:03:08,799 uh 1813 01:03:12,390 --> 01:03:10,400 mandela 1814 01:03:14,870 --> 01:03:12,400 and the one underneath of it says bond 1815 01:03:16,630 --> 01:03:14,880 number one 1816 01:03:18,470 --> 01:03:16,640 and he's got a little paper sign that 1817 01:03:20,309 --> 01:03:18,480 he's written that says 1818 01:03:21,750 --> 01:03:20,319 i think it's like we're happy to work at 1819 01:03:23,589 --> 01:03:21,760 cern 1820 01:03:24,549 --> 01:03:23,599 or something like that 1821 01:03:28,309 --> 01:03:24,559 um 1822 01:03:30,230 --> 01:03:28,319 and people were like what why 1823 01:03:32,950 --> 01:03:30,240 why would you why would this be in the 1824 01:03:34,630 --> 01:03:32,960 middle of all this inane dancing 1825 01:03:36,069 --> 01:03:34,640 um 1826 01:03:38,950 --> 01:03:36,079 and a lot of people think that the first 1827 01:03:41,270 --> 01:03:38,960 sign the mandela sign of course 1828 01:03:45,510 --> 01:03:41,280 is talking about nelson mandela and the 1829 01:03:48,390 --> 01:03:45,520 mandela effect and the bond number one 1830 01:03:52,549 --> 01:03:48,400 is a little bit more far stretched but 1831 01:03:54,710 --> 01:03:52,559 the very first person who played bond 1832 01:03:57,109 --> 01:03:54,720 was named nelson 1833 01:03:58,710 --> 01:03:57,119 so they think it's this scientist's way 1834 01:04:01,750 --> 01:03:58,720 of pointing to the 1835 01:04:03,670 --> 01:04:01,760 the fact that cern is the reason why the 1836 01:04:06,870 --> 01:04:03,680 mandela effect 1837 01:04:09,190 --> 01:04:06,880 began the higgs boson and all of that 1838 01:04:11,270 --> 01:04:09,200 um there is one more little thing later 1839 01:04:12,549 --> 01:04:11,280 on towards the end of the 1840 01:04:15,510 --> 01:04:12,559 video 1841 01:04:18,150 --> 01:04:15,520 it switches to one kid dancing in front 1842 01:04:19,430 --> 01:04:18,160 of what looks like a giant video game 1843 01:04:21,589 --> 01:04:19,440 screen 1844 01:04:25,109 --> 01:04:21,599 and it's got like a little score down at 1845 01:04:26,470 --> 01:04:25,119 the bottom like a video game score 1846 01:04:27,270 --> 01:04:26,480 and it says 1847 01:04:30,470 --> 01:04:27,280 uh 1848 01:04:36,150 --> 01:04:33,270 i you know why put a weird number down 1849 01:04:37,910 --> 01:04:36,160 you know very easy for people to see um 1850 01:04:40,710 --> 01:04:37,920 but if you go and look at your history 1851 01:04:43,670 --> 01:04:40,720 of nelson mandela 4664 was his prison 1852 01:04:49,430 --> 01:04:46,789 and 4664 in itself is its own mandela 1853 01:04:51,670 --> 01:04:49,440 effect uh many of the people who worked 1854 01:04:52,789 --> 01:04:51,680 with nelson mandela after he was out of 1855 01:04:55,029 --> 01:04:52,799 jail 1856 01:04:57,990 --> 01:04:55,039 he did a lot of charity works 1857 01:04:59,990 --> 01:04:58,000 and he put on this series of concerts 1858 01:05:01,109 --> 01:05:00,000 to help with aids awareness and some 1859 01:05:01,990 --> 01:05:01,119 other stuff 1860 01:05:04,390 --> 01:05:02,000 and 1861 01:05:05,589 --> 01:05:04,400 they were called before 664 concert 1862 01:05:07,589 --> 01:05:05,599 series 1863 01:05:09,589 --> 01:05:07,599 however the majority of the people who 1864 01:05:14,150 --> 01:05:09,599 worked on those um 1865 01:05:16,230 --> 01:05:14,160 remember it being four six six six four 1866 01:05:18,789 --> 01:05:16,240 um and now it's changed to four or six 1867 01:05:20,829 --> 01:05:18,799 six four which they can't explain um 1868 01:05:22,549 --> 01:05:20,839 even people who worked on 1869 01:05:23,829 --> 01:05:22,559 um uh 1870 01:05:27,190 --> 01:05:23,839 all the 1871 01:05:28,549 --> 01:05:27,200 uh internet buzz and stuff for it and um 1872 01:05:30,230 --> 01:05:28,559 all the paperwork on it and stuff 1873 01:05:31,190 --> 01:05:30,240 remember it being four six six six four 1874 01:05:34,069 --> 01:05:31,200 because they thought it was just 1875 01:05:35,750 --> 01:05:34,079 terrible that the 666 was in it 1876 01:05:39,750 --> 01:05:35,760 um and something that was being used for 1877 01:05:43,990 --> 01:05:39,760 charity events um and they said suddenly 1878 01:05:45,670 --> 01:05:44,000 it changed it wasn't for 666 anymore 1879 01:05:47,029 --> 01:05:45,680 so oddly enough 1880 01:05:48,710 --> 01:05:47,039 but then it goes right back to the 1881 01:05:50,390 --> 01:05:48,720 dancing again um and there are some 1882 01:05:53,430 --> 01:05:50,400 people that say that the dancing part 1883 01:05:55,510 --> 01:05:53,440 was some part of us a ceremony which i 1884 01:05:58,069 --> 01:05:55,520 don't really buy into but 1885 01:06:01,029 --> 01:05:58,079 yeah um anybody can go see that it's up 1886 01:06:02,950 --> 01:06:01,039 on youtube i think i've got the 1887 01:06:04,390 --> 01:06:02,960 i try i'm gonna try it again in a second 1888 01:06:06,309 --> 01:06:04,400 here because i i do love what you're 1889 01:06:07,910 --> 01:06:06,319 bringing up i don't i think it went to i 1890 01:06:09,510 --> 01:06:07,920 went to like maybe i should have messed 1891 01:06:10,950 --> 01:06:09,520 around with it a little bit 1892 01:06:12,950 --> 01:06:10,960 before i could set up to where i'm 1893 01:06:14,309 --> 01:06:12,960 looking at it before i just popped it up 1894 01:06:16,470 --> 01:06:14,319 but i feel like did it pop up on the 1895 01:06:18,710 --> 01:06:16,480 screen did you see it for a second too 1896 01:06:20,870 --> 01:06:18,720 i did you did yeah and it wasn't 1897 01:06:22,789 --> 01:06:20,880 supposed to like just share it i was 1898 01:06:24,230 --> 01:06:22,799 trying to get it to actually pull up the 1899 01:06:25,270 --> 01:06:24,240 scene you were talking about and i 1900 01:06:26,870 --> 01:06:25,280 actually watched this video last night 1901 01:06:28,470 --> 01:06:26,880 myself 1902 01:06:29,750 --> 01:06:28,480 just to kind of see what it was about so 1903 01:06:31,670 --> 01:06:29,760 for what she's talking about guys i'm 1904 01:06:32,950 --> 01:06:31,680 gonna see if i can actually pull it up 1905 01:06:34,230 --> 01:06:32,960 and it might show the screen for a 1906 01:06:34,950 --> 01:06:34,240 second but 1907 01:06:37,349 --> 01:06:34,960 so 1908 01:06:39,990 --> 01:06:37,359 yeah the scientist the scientist is at 1909 01:06:41,750 --> 01:06:40,000 the 2 30 mark 1910 01:06:44,230 --> 01:06:41,760 and you can see the 1911 01:06:47,589 --> 01:06:44,240 weird sign and all of that 1912 01:06:50,230 --> 01:06:47,599 and then the game score is at the 328 1913 01:06:54,710 --> 01:06:52,309 at the 328 mark you said 1914 01:06:55,990 --> 01:06:54,720 mm-hmm okay let me there we go now i can 1915 01:07:01,830 --> 01:06:56,000 do it all right 1916 01:07:04,789 --> 01:07:03,190 [Music] 1917 01:07:07,270 --> 01:07:04,799 we'll get better at this all right let's 1918 01:07:10,630 --> 01:07:07,280 see let's see if this pulls up 1919 01:07:12,390 --> 01:07:10,640 okay and if i switch over to this 1920 01:07:13,750 --> 01:07:12,400 is it actually showing the video for you 1921 01:07:15,349 --> 01:07:13,760 or no 1922 01:07:16,789 --> 01:07:15,359 i can see it yeah 1923 01:07:17,910 --> 01:07:16,799 you can okay so you said no they're 1924 01:07:20,630 --> 01:07:17,920 right there actually write them in a 1925 01:07:23,029 --> 01:07:20,640 back up right there right here is where 1926 01:07:25,029 --> 01:07:23,039 he is 1927 01:07:26,390 --> 01:07:25,039 holding up the sign and 1928 01:07:28,789 --> 01:07:26,400 yeah i'll go ahead 1929 01:07:30,470 --> 01:07:28,799 yeah we are happy at cern 1930 01:07:33,750 --> 01:07:30,480 bond number one 1931 01:07:35,829 --> 01:07:33,760 and mandela now why the heck would some 1932 01:07:37,829 --> 01:07:35,839 they throw in that it's all been just 1933 01:07:39,829 --> 01:07:37,839 kids dancing why would all of a sudden 1934 01:07:43,270 --> 01:07:39,839 they show this office with a scientist 1935 01:07:44,950 --> 01:07:43,280 in there with this weird cryptic signage 1936 01:07:47,109 --> 01:07:44,960 and it will literally just go right back 1937 01:07:48,390 --> 01:07:47,119 to the dancing again like it's just the 1938 01:07:49,589 --> 01:07:48,400 littlest 1939 01:07:53,430 --> 01:07:49,599 part in there 1940 01:07:55,510 --> 01:07:53,440 this is me i'm not gonna lie if i ever 1941 01:07:56,950 --> 01:07:55,520 have you ever had to work somewhere like 1942 01:07:58,150 --> 01:07:56,960 it mattered and i had to keep things 1943 01:08:00,150 --> 01:07:58,160 organized 1944 01:08:02,549 --> 01:08:00,160 that's that's what my office would look 1945 01:08:04,150 --> 01:08:02,559 like right there that would be so bad 1946 01:08:05,829 --> 01:08:04,160 but yeah i'll press play again here it's 1947 01:08:08,390 --> 01:08:05,839 so funny because like you said and 1948 01:08:10,390 --> 01:08:08,400 they're not good dancing guys weird like 1949 01:08:11,910 --> 01:08:10,400 and i know they're representing like 1950 01:08:14,309 --> 01:08:11,920 their particles and they're they're 1951 01:08:15,029 --> 01:08:14,319 working at this place and 1952 01:08:16,309 --> 01:08:15,039 they're 1953 01:08:22,229 --> 01:08:16,319 killer 1954 01:08:24,950 --> 01:08:22,239 so i can't say much i probably dance 1955 01:08:27,910 --> 01:08:24,960 like this myself but yeah but do you do 1956 01:08:30,229 --> 01:08:27,920 it on video and post it on youtube no i 1957 01:08:31,590 --> 01:08:30,239 don't and you know you know that i mean 1958 01:08:32,950 --> 01:08:31,600 i'm not i'm not trying to say it's an 1959 01:08:34,070 --> 01:08:32,960 offensive way at all well these are 1960 01:08:35,269 --> 01:08:34,080 actually the firefighters and they feel 1961 01:08:37,189 --> 01:08:35,279 like i feel like they got a little more 1962 01:08:38,390 --> 01:08:37,199 rhythm but 1963 01:08:39,669 --> 01:08:38,400 this is rough 1964 01:08:40,709 --> 01:08:39,679 that's yeah 1965 01:08:43,349 --> 01:08:40,719 it's tough 1966 01:08:45,269 --> 01:08:43,359 but anyways yeah it's 1967 01:08:47,269 --> 01:08:45,279 there was another one too um i believe 1968 01:08:48,950 --> 01:08:47,279 it's called cern symmetry have you 1969 01:08:52,070 --> 01:08:48,960 watched that one 1970 01:08:53,749 --> 01:08:52,080 so oh symmetry is its own thing so 1971 01:08:56,070 --> 01:08:53,759 that's an opera 1972 01:08:59,269 --> 01:08:56,080 that was choreographed to be 1973 01:09:01,189 --> 01:08:59,279 filmed inside of cern and it's its own 1974 01:09:06,630 --> 01:09:01,199 little weird 1975 01:09:09,669 --> 01:09:06,640 um and uh it's supposedly supposed to be 1976 01:09:11,669 --> 01:09:09,679 some kind of a ceremonial ritual 1977 01:09:13,910 --> 01:09:11,679 that happened and the some of the stuff 1978 01:09:16,070 --> 01:09:13,920 that happens in it you kind of think 1979 01:09:17,269 --> 01:09:16,080 they may be right 1980 01:09:18,390 --> 01:09:17,279 well and the reason i bring it up 1981 01:09:21,269 --> 01:09:18,400 because a lot of people been asking 1982 01:09:23,349 --> 01:09:21,279 about the the ritualistic aspect of cern 1983 01:09:25,269 --> 01:09:23,359 far as the idea of um 1984 01:09:28,470 --> 01:09:25,279 you know is it anubis is that the god 1985 01:09:31,269 --> 01:09:28,480 that was gifted them from india 1986 01:09:34,470 --> 01:09:31,279 shiva shiva i got my noob 1987 01:09:36,550 --> 01:09:34,480 i'm going to egyptian here i know 1988 01:09:37,510 --> 01:09:36,560 once i said it i thought about it um and 1989 01:09:38,709 --> 01:09:37,520 i don't know how much of this we're 1990 01:09:41,590 --> 01:09:38,719 allowed to show hopefully i don't get 1991 01:09:43,590 --> 01:09:41,600 ben and joe in trouble here but if if 1992 01:09:44,789 --> 01:09:43,600 you go through 1993 01:09:45,749 --> 01:09:44,799 it's not even that long of a clip you 1994 01:09:47,189 --> 01:09:45,759 guys can watch this yourself it's a 1995 01:09:49,510 --> 01:09:47,199 minute 58 seconds 1996 01:09:50,709 --> 01:09:49,520 and i know that it's for art okay i get 1997 01:09:52,950 --> 01:09:50,719 that 1998 01:09:54,630 --> 01:09:52,960 but it's it's very strange 1999 01:09:57,430 --> 01:09:54,640 um 2000 01:09:58,709 --> 01:09:57,440 symbiology that the the that they pick 2001 01:10:01,110 --> 01:09:58,719 and now granted these guys are artists 2002 01:10:02,310 --> 01:10:01,120 to be clear this is not i don't believe 2003 01:10:03,430 --> 01:10:02,320 that these are not scientists or 2004 01:10:04,950 --> 01:10:03,440 whatever but 2005 01:10:07,270 --> 01:10:04,960 um 2006 01:10:09,750 --> 01:10:07,280 at the end particularly kind of here and 2007 01:10:11,750 --> 01:10:09,760 i don't know enough about um occult 2008 01:10:14,310 --> 01:10:11,760 practices and stuff really but i do know 2009 01:10:15,830 --> 01:10:14,320 a little bit about protection rings and 2010 01:10:17,189 --> 01:10:15,840 opening and closing of portals if you 2011 01:10:18,950 --> 01:10:17,199 were going to do something like that and 2012 01:10:20,950 --> 01:10:18,960 to me it almost seems like that's kind 2013 01:10:22,310 --> 01:10:20,960 of what's going on here when we have 2014 01:10:23,430 --> 01:10:22,320 this scene here in the i believe it's 2015 01:10:25,430 --> 01:10:23,440 the desert 2016 01:10:27,510 --> 01:10:25,440 um yeah right here 2017 01:10:30,310 --> 01:10:27,520 we've got this big ring 2018 01:10:33,030 --> 01:10:30,320 and you got this person on the outside i 2019 01:10:34,950 --> 01:10:33,040 just i don't know it's very 2020 01:10:35,830 --> 01:10:34,960 unique i'll say that and i'll stop it 2021 01:10:36,790 --> 01:10:35,840 there because i don't know how i don't 2022 01:10:39,189 --> 01:10:36,800 know how much we can actually show 2023 01:10:40,310 --> 01:10:39,199 before before we get to the nakedness 2024 01:10:41,990 --> 01:10:40,320 well i don't know what to say i'm 2025 01:10:43,350 --> 01:10:42,000 showing another video so guys we do not 2026 01:10:44,870 --> 01:10:43,360 own the rights to any of that is on 2027 01:10:47,110 --> 01:10:44,880 youtube it is theirs please don't kick 2028 01:10:49,350 --> 01:10:47,120 us all right 2029 01:10:52,070 --> 01:10:49,360 yeah um yeah there's a lot of symbolism 2030 01:10:53,750 --> 01:10:52,080 and stuff in in that video um i don't 2031 01:10:57,110 --> 01:10:53,760 know if you noticed or not but anytime 2032 01:10:59,030 --> 01:10:57,120 they show a watch the hands are 2033 01:11:01,270 --> 01:10:59,040 spinning in the yeah 2034 01:11:04,630 --> 01:11:01,280 it's all sorts of stuff and um i had 2035 01:11:06,630 --> 01:11:04,640 mentioned to you earlier the uh 2036 01:11:08,470 --> 01:11:06,640 oh what is the name of that 2037 01:11:11,830 --> 01:11:08,480 that tunnel again 2038 01:11:14,630 --> 01:11:11,840 so they did cern was involved oddly 2039 01:11:16,070 --> 01:11:14,640 enough with the opening of a tunnel in 2040 01:11:17,990 --> 01:11:16,080 switzerland 2041 01:11:20,070 --> 01:11:18,000 uh the goddard tunnel 2042 01:11:23,189 --> 01:11:20,080 right oh you did mention that yeah yeah 2043 01:11:27,350 --> 01:11:23,199 okay so this holy cow you want to talk 2044 01:11:29,189 --> 01:11:27,360 about a steaming pile of crazy um 2045 01:11:30,550 --> 01:11:29,199 i watched this last night i had been 2046 01:11:32,310 --> 01:11:30,560 holding off 2047 01:11:34,470 --> 01:11:32,320 i i read about the goddard tunnel 2048 01:11:37,669 --> 01:11:34,480 opening back when i did a little bit on 2049 01:11:40,149 --> 01:11:37,679 cern with the guys at what of tomorrow 2050 01:11:42,229 --> 01:11:40,159 and i had i had read up on it a little 2051 01:11:43,669 --> 01:11:42,239 bit i didn't actually go and watch it 2052 01:11:44,550 --> 01:11:43,679 because 2053 01:11:49,830 --> 01:11:44,560 i was 2054 01:11:51,990 --> 01:11:49,840 and i had every right to be 2055 01:11:52,870 --> 01:11:52,000 i had every right to be scared of this 2056 01:11:55,669 --> 01:11:52,880 thing 2057 01:11:58,709 --> 01:11:55,679 so i'll give you a little background so 2058 01:12:01,669 --> 01:11:58,719 the goddard tunnel is the world's 2059 01:12:03,189 --> 01:12:01,679 largest underground tunnel that's made 2060 01:12:06,229 --> 01:12:03,199 for trains 2061 01:12:08,709 --> 01:12:06,239 it's the longest and it's also the one 2062 01:12:09,750 --> 01:12:08,719 deepest underground and 2063 01:12:12,390 --> 01:12:09,760 uh 2064 01:12:15,270 --> 01:12:12,400 when they opened it they did this huge 2065 01:12:18,550 --> 01:12:15,280 ceremony with this crazy german 2066 01:12:21,590 --> 01:12:18,560 choreographer they did like this full 2067 01:12:24,390 --> 01:12:21,600 like operetic 2068 01:12:26,709 --> 01:12:24,400 artsy opening and they had all these 2069 01:12:29,189 --> 01:12:26,719 dignitaries and stuff from all the 2070 01:12:30,070 --> 01:12:29,199 different countries that cern is a part 2071 01:12:31,669 --> 01:12:30,080 of 2072 01:12:33,430 --> 01:12:31,679 represented there 2073 01:12:35,430 --> 01:12:33,440 and cern was there and nobody could 2074 01:12:36,550 --> 01:12:35,440 quite understand what cern was gonna 2075 01:12:39,189 --> 01:12:36,560 have to do 2076 01:12:42,149 --> 01:12:39,199 with this giant tunnel being opened 2077 01:12:45,030 --> 01:12:42,159 but there it was and they started this 2078 01:12:46,950 --> 01:12:45,040 ceremony and it was literally just a 2079 01:12:49,830 --> 01:12:46,960 ritual of 2080 01:12:52,790 --> 01:12:49,840 so there was a devil represented who was 2081 01:12:55,110 --> 01:12:52,800 wearing the goat's horns and he presided 2082 01:12:56,790 --> 01:12:55,120 over the entire ceremony at one time he 2083 01:12:59,270 --> 01:12:56,800 raped 2084 01:13:02,630 --> 01:12:59,280 one of the workers that have died 2085 01:13:05,830 --> 01:13:02,640 yeah so the entire ceremony ceremony 2086 01:13:08,470 --> 01:13:05,840 it was with dignitaries and suits 2087 01:13:09,830 --> 01:13:08,480 on the sidelines watching this happen so 2088 01:13:11,669 --> 01:13:09,840 i'm going to give you a quick little 2089 01:13:14,070 --> 01:13:11,679 rundown on kind of what happens um and 2090 01:13:16,390 --> 01:13:14,080 people can go and watch this thing 2091 01:13:19,270 --> 01:13:16,400 if you want 2092 01:13:21,110 --> 01:13:19,280 dear lord anyways 2093 01:13:23,110 --> 01:13:21,120 so that starts out with all of these 2094 01:13:26,390 --> 01:13:23,120 workers coming in 2095 01:13:28,310 --> 01:13:26,400 like marching style right with just 2096 01:13:30,790 --> 01:13:28,320 blank faces 2097 01:13:32,790 --> 01:13:30,800 and they march them into this 2098 01:13:34,870 --> 01:13:32,800 section of this tunnel where they have 2099 01:13:36,950 --> 01:13:34,880 people sitting in grandstands on either 2100 01:13:39,750 --> 01:13:36,960 side watching this and they march them 2101 01:13:42,390 --> 01:13:39,760 in halfway there and then you see all of 2102 01:13:44,950 --> 01:13:42,400 these wires and hoops come down from the 2103 01:13:48,070 --> 01:13:44,960 ceiling and they have what's represented 2104 01:13:50,630 --> 01:13:48,080 as the i guess six workers died 2105 01:13:52,310 --> 01:13:50,640 making this tunnel over the years and 2106 01:13:53,510 --> 01:13:52,320 they're the representative of the six 2107 01:13:56,470 --> 01:13:53,520 workers 2108 01:13:57,350 --> 01:13:56,480 hanging just kind of 2109 01:13:59,430 --> 01:13:57,360 dead 2110 01:14:02,630 --> 01:13:59,440 from these hoops and stuff and they 2111 01:14:04,630 --> 01:14:02,640 represented that in in the art yes 2112 01:14:06,870 --> 01:14:04,640 it gets worse it gets worse 2113 01:14:09,030 --> 01:14:06,880 so the workers on the ground that 2114 01:14:11,669 --> 01:14:09,040 they've marched in seeing this run in 2115 01:14:15,830 --> 01:14:11,679 terror back out of the area that they 2116 01:14:18,149 --> 01:14:15,840 came from and in comes another train car 2117 01:14:21,110 --> 01:14:18,159 that has all of these half naked people 2118 01:14:23,669 --> 01:14:21,120 on it and a woman who is completely 2119 01:14:26,630 --> 01:14:23,679 naked from the top up with a giant bird 2120 01:14:28,390 --> 01:14:26,640 head on and giant wings representing 2121 01:14:32,550 --> 01:14:28,400 kind of the bird of death 2122 01:14:34,950 --> 01:14:32,560 and she swoops in and takes them away 2123 01:14:36,630 --> 01:14:34,960 and she influences all the naked people 2124 01:14:38,070 --> 01:14:36,640 on the train to start making out with 2125 01:14:41,189 --> 01:14:38,080 each other there's 2126 01:14:43,270 --> 01:14:41,199 chess going into mouths and 2127 01:14:45,510 --> 01:14:43,280 all this other crazy stuff yeah and then 2128 01:14:47,990 --> 01:14:45,520 the devil comes out and he's overseeing 2129 01:14:50,149 --> 01:14:48,000 all of this and the workers that have 2130 01:14:52,149 --> 01:14:50,159 died come back in like white robes and 2131 01:14:54,390 --> 01:14:52,159 he rapes one of them 2132 01:14:57,510 --> 01:14:54,400 she ends up birthing something later on 2133 01:14:59,189 --> 01:14:57,520 we don't really get to see 2134 01:15:01,030 --> 01:14:59,199 and it's just and there's a way there's 2135 01:15:03,430 --> 01:15:01,040 way more than that i'll stop there off 2136 01:15:05,910 --> 01:15:03,440 of the tunnel the goddard this is 2137 01:15:11,590 --> 01:15:05,920 for the goddard tunnel and it was put on 2138 01:15:15,030 --> 01:15:13,270 two things really quick first of all uh 2139 01:15:16,950 --> 01:15:15,040 lewis thanks brother for that super chat 2140 01:15:18,630 --> 01:15:16,960 uh and and ben thanks for the super chat 2141 01:15:20,550 --> 01:15:18,640 right back into yourself there heck yeah 2142 01:15:21,910 --> 01:15:20,560 bro i love that but somebody brought up 2143 01:15:23,510 --> 01:15:21,920 a great question and and i don't know 2144 01:15:25,110 --> 01:15:23,520 enough about this to really so maybe you 2145 01:15:27,030 --> 01:15:25,120 can help get the information here 2146 01:15:29,430 --> 01:15:27,040 because i like notice the piece of it 2147 01:15:31,189 --> 01:15:29,440 but goddard didn't what did that 2148 01:15:32,950 --> 01:15:31,199 represent was that an actual person or 2149 01:15:35,030 --> 01:15:32,960 was that more of an archetype wasn't 2150 01:15:38,390 --> 01:15:35,040 there a genius or something 2151 01:15:40,550 --> 01:15:38,400 so no no no no not goddard dd d-d-a-r-d 2152 01:15:44,870 --> 01:15:40,560 uh goddard it's named after the area the 2153 01:15:47,910 --> 01:15:46,550 hmm but do you think they were playing 2154 01:15:50,229 --> 01:15:47,920 on it or are we just stretching if we 2155 01:15:52,550 --> 01:15:50,239 try to make that reach 2156 01:15:55,110 --> 01:15:52,560 after you watch that video you will 2157 01:15:56,790 --> 01:15:55,120 think any number of things can happen 2158 01:15:58,950 --> 01:15:56,800 and the hilarious thing is it doesn't 2159 01:16:01,030 --> 01:15:58,960 even stop at the tunnel so like 2160 01:16:02,630 --> 01:16:01,040 this creature comes in and gathers up 2161 01:16:04,229 --> 01:16:02,640 all the dignitaries and moves them 2162 01:16:06,630 --> 01:16:04,239 outside 2163 01:16:08,950 --> 01:16:06,640 and then it gets really crazy there's 2164 01:16:11,590 --> 01:16:08,960 this gigantic screen like the size of 2165 01:16:16,390 --> 01:16:11,600 the size of a stadium and 2166 01:16:21,910 --> 01:16:18,950 why the collider i don't know and it 2167 01:16:23,590 --> 01:16:21,920 shows these workers coming down in front 2168 01:16:25,750 --> 01:16:23,600 of it and dying 2169 01:16:29,270 --> 01:16:25,760 and then the collider comes in and it 2170 01:16:30,950 --> 01:16:29,280 comes out as the all-seeing eye 2171 01:16:34,229 --> 01:16:30,960 well come on that's a universal symbol 2172 01:16:37,350 --> 01:16:34,239 right there across the board forever 2173 01:16:39,110 --> 01:16:37,360 all those people all those workers strip 2174 01:16:41,110 --> 01:16:39,120 down to their underwear and start 2175 01:16:42,790 --> 01:16:41,120 dancing and that's when that one lady 2176 01:16:45,189 --> 01:16:42,800 who got raped by the devil back in the 2177 01:16:47,990 --> 01:16:45,199 tunnel gives birth 2178 01:16:50,709 --> 01:16:48,000 and then the all saying eye 2179 01:16:53,590 --> 01:16:50,719 goes back out into what looks like the 2180 01:16:55,350 --> 01:16:53,600 the collider again and then it fills 2181 01:16:56,870 --> 01:16:55,360 full of all of these eyes and then 2182 01:17:00,310 --> 01:16:56,880 there's like one centralized eye that 2183 01:17:01,669 --> 01:17:00,320 just stares at you the entire time 2184 01:17:05,030 --> 01:17:01,679 and then the train shows up and 2185 01:17:09,510 --> 01:17:07,590 and you're sitting there i 100 agree 2186 01:17:10,470 --> 01:17:09,520 with uh what with what tammy had to say 2187 01:17:11,830 --> 01:17:10,480 about this because if i was sitting 2188 01:17:14,630 --> 01:17:11,840 there watching this this would be my 2189 01:17:16,550 --> 01:17:14,640 exact thought 2190 01:17:19,030 --> 01:17:16,560 what did i just watch well this 2191 01:17:20,790 --> 01:17:19,040 seriously just happened here yeah i 2192 01:17:22,630 --> 01:17:20,800 literally watched it 2193 01:17:24,149 --> 01:17:22,640 last night i finally sat down with it 2194 01:17:26,229 --> 01:17:24,159 and i was like i'm gonna watch this 2195 01:17:27,669 --> 01:17:26,239 because we're probably gonna talk about 2196 01:17:29,669 --> 01:17:27,679 this just a little bit and i kind of 2197 01:17:31,590 --> 01:17:29,679 like to be able to you know say a little 2198 01:17:34,630 --> 01:17:31,600 bit of something on it rather than what 2199 01:17:36,550 --> 01:17:34,640 i've just read i might as well see it 2200 01:17:39,350 --> 01:17:36,560 and i kind of wish i hadn't 2201 01:17:41,189 --> 01:17:39,360 i'm a little changed now 2202 01:17:43,590 --> 01:17:41,199 um 2203 01:17:46,390 --> 01:17:43,600 like if you go and look like just go to 2204 01:17:48,950 --> 01:17:46,400 youtube or just google it in general um 2205 01:17:50,550 --> 01:17:48,960 just the opening of the gothard tunnel 2206 01:17:53,030 --> 01:17:50,560 ceremony 2207 01:17:55,510 --> 01:17:53,040 a million channels covered this because 2208 01:17:56,709 --> 01:17:55,520 it was the biggest tunnel ever built 2209 01:17:58,950 --> 01:17:56,719 um 2210 01:18:01,590 --> 01:17:58,960 a lot of news channels covered it and 2211 01:18:03,990 --> 01:18:01,600 most of them the lines are what the hell 2212 01:18:06,390 --> 01:18:04,000 happened at the ceremony 2213 01:18:07,990 --> 01:18:06,400 why is this happening at the ceremony 2214 01:18:09,510 --> 01:18:08,000 good lord 2215 01:18:12,709 --> 01:18:09,520 don't show this to your children what 2216 01:18:16,229 --> 01:18:12,719 happened at the ceremony and um the kind 2217 01:18:17,590 --> 01:18:16,239 of it's a little hilarious um it shows 2218 01:18:18,870 --> 01:18:17,600 uh the people that are watching it 2219 01:18:21,350 --> 01:18:18,880 within the tunnel you know all the 2220 01:18:23,350 --> 01:18:21,360 dignitaries and stuff and about a good 2221 01:18:26,390 --> 01:18:23,360 half of them have this look on their 2222 01:18:29,350 --> 01:18:26,400 face like what am i watching 2223 01:18:30,470 --> 01:18:29,360 why is this happening in front of me 2224 01:18:32,070 --> 01:18:30,480 um yeah 2225 01:18:34,310 --> 01:18:32,080 and they blamed it all on this one 2226 01:18:36,070 --> 01:18:34,320 german choreographer but 2227 01:18:38,229 --> 01:18:36,080 they obviously saw 2228 01:18:40,630 --> 01:18:38,239 that did you blame the german dude 2229 01:18:42,310 --> 01:18:40,640 oh yeah yeah it's always the german guy 2230 01:18:44,229 --> 01:18:42,320 it's always the german guy germans and 2231 01:18:46,790 --> 01:18:44,239 they're like oh okay 2232 01:18:49,830 --> 01:18:46,800 totally makes sense now 2233 01:18:52,310 --> 01:18:49,840 yeah it's it's crazy i don't 2234 01:18:53,669 --> 01:18:52,320 i think go watch it go watch it 2235 01:18:55,110 --> 01:18:53,679 yeah i'll let you guys look that one up 2236 01:18:56,229 --> 01:18:55,120 what was it called one more time just 2237 01:18:58,070 --> 01:18:56,239 remember you might be wanting to look it 2238 01:19:01,910 --> 01:18:58,080 up goddard tunnel so it's 2239 01:19:07,350 --> 01:19:05,470 tunnel ceremony it happened june 1st um 2240 01:19:11,990 --> 01:19:07,360 2016 2241 01:19:14,950 --> 01:19:12,000 some crazy stuff especially when it 2242 01:19:17,910 --> 01:19:14,960 comes to stern um yeah just 2243 01:19:20,070 --> 01:19:17,920 google it go to you can go to youtube 2244 01:19:21,030 --> 01:19:20,080 and you can actually see the ceremony in 2245 01:19:23,030 --> 01:19:21,040 full 2246 01:19:24,149 --> 01:19:23,040 um 2247 01:19:26,390 --> 01:19:24,159 if you want to watch something really 2248 01:19:28,229 --> 01:19:26,400 hilarious so oh there's we'll definitely 2249 01:19:32,709 --> 01:19:28,239 be watching it tonight 2250 01:19:36,709 --> 01:19:34,149 there's a 2251 01:19:38,550 --> 01:19:36,719 a youtuber named the white rabbit and 2252 01:19:40,870 --> 01:19:38,560 you can go to his channel and he did 2253 01:19:42,229 --> 01:19:40,880 like a whole three-part series on just 2254 01:19:43,110 --> 01:19:42,239 the opening 2255 01:19:44,709 --> 01:19:43,120 um 2256 01:19:49,030 --> 01:19:44,719 and i s 2257 01:19:54,630 --> 01:19:51,510 wears i um go with that 2258 01:20:00,070 --> 01:19:54,640 he wears a white rabbit mask 2259 01:20:04,390 --> 01:20:02,229 it's a little hard to really 2260 01:20:06,709 --> 01:20:04,400 believe him when he looks like that 2261 01:20:08,629 --> 01:20:06,719 but i i suggest going and watching his 2262 01:20:11,510 --> 01:20:08,639 three-part series never mind what he's 2263 01:20:14,149 --> 01:20:11,520 talking about um he actually has the 2264 01:20:16,870 --> 01:20:14,159 most of the ceremony 2265 01:20:18,310 --> 01:20:16,880 posted that you can see like i couldn't 2266 01:20:21,750 --> 01:20:18,320 find anywhere where you could actually 2267 01:20:23,110 --> 01:20:21,760 watch the ceremony in its entirety 2268 01:20:24,229 --> 01:20:23,120 i could just see parts where it was 2269 01:20:26,870 --> 01:20:24,239 broken up 2270 01:20:29,189 --> 01:20:26,880 and he had the good brunt of it 2271 01:20:31,110 --> 01:20:29,199 especially the weird crap that went on 2272 01:20:32,790 --> 01:20:31,120 so if you really if you want to go down 2273 01:20:36,550 --> 01:20:32,800 that rabbit hole 2274 01:20:39,110 --> 01:20:36,560 um yeah go check out his craziness 2275 01:20:41,030 --> 01:20:39,120 i wonder too okay let's let's look at it 2276 01:20:42,870 --> 01:20:41,040 this way let's just say you're an intern 2277 01:20:44,550 --> 01:20:42,880 who got a position somehow 2278 01:20:46,229 --> 01:20:44,560 at cern which you'd be 2279 01:20:47,669 --> 01:20:46,239 absolutely stoked about if you're into 2280 01:20:50,070 --> 01:20:47,679 this kind of stuff i mean if you're 2281 01:20:51,990 --> 01:20:50,080 genuinely into physics like this has to 2282 01:20:53,590 --> 01:20:52,000 be the most magical place on planet 2283 01:20:55,270 --> 01:20:53,600 earth to work i shouldn't use it magical 2284 01:20:57,110 --> 01:20:55,280 for them but like it would be a dream 2285 01:20:58,229 --> 01:20:57,120 come true i would assume 2286 01:20:59,270 --> 01:20:58,239 one 2287 01:21:00,550 --> 01:20:59,280 again we're going off of their 2288 01:21:02,950 --> 01:21:00,560 information but this isn't a place you 2289 01:21:04,149 --> 01:21:02,960 can just like stroll into there's a very 2290 01:21:05,830 --> 01:21:04,159 um 2291 01:21:07,830 --> 01:21:05,840 detailed process if you want to even go 2292 01:21:09,270 --> 01:21:07,840 tour it it's about two days there was a 2293 01:21:10,629 --> 01:21:09,280 girl that was watching on youtube i 2294 01:21:11,990 --> 01:21:10,639 think she's called that physicist girl 2295 01:21:14,070 --> 01:21:12,000 or something like that or that science 2296 01:21:15,430 --> 01:21:14,080 girl and it took her like two days and 2297 01:21:16,870 --> 01:21:15,440 she went there but there's all these 2298 01:21:18,950 --> 01:21:16,880 different levels and it's you know 2299 01:21:21,590 --> 01:21:18,960 there's a lot to it is the point but she 2300 01:21:23,430 --> 01:21:21,600 also pointed out that it is very um 2301 01:21:25,310 --> 01:21:23,440 oh what's the term i'm looking for like 2302 01:21:27,590 --> 01:21:25,320 not segregated but you're very 2303 01:21:29,030 --> 01:21:27,600 compartmentalized you you work on this 2304 01:21:30,629 --> 01:21:29,040 over here and you don't really know what 2305 01:21:31,750 --> 01:21:30,639 these guys are working on like the one 2306 01:21:33,750 --> 01:21:31,760 chamber she was in it was the 2307 01:21:36,070 --> 01:21:33,760 decelerator uh 2308 01:21:37,590 --> 01:21:36,080 chamber to like decelerate the particles 2309 01:21:39,590 --> 01:21:37,600 that were coming in so like that's all 2310 01:21:40,870 --> 01:21:39,600 their job was they had no idea what i 2311 01:21:42,550 --> 01:21:40,880 mean they knew but they weren't like 2312 01:21:44,149 --> 01:21:42,560 working there and it's just they work in 2313 01:21:46,149 --> 01:21:44,159 this one station that's it kind of like 2314 01:21:47,750 --> 01:21:46,159 the military you know relating it back 2315 01:21:49,590 --> 01:21:47,760 to the ufo stuff or you know people 2316 01:21:51,350 --> 01:21:49,600 would say could anybody be keeping that 2317 01:21:53,510 --> 01:21:51,360 a secret or whatever and it's like this 2318 01:21:56,310 --> 01:21:53,520 stuff's very compartmentalized and 2319 01:21:57,910 --> 01:21:56,320 you're it's not your job to go above 2320 01:21:59,750 --> 01:21:57,920 rank and figure things out and if you 2321 01:22:01,990 --> 01:21:59,760 push it too far you you know in some 2322 01:22:04,390 --> 01:22:02,000 instances could be court-martialed so 2323 01:22:07,270 --> 01:22:04,400 um i i wonder how much of that goes on 2324 01:22:10,070 --> 01:22:08,709 i guess it's not fair i should never 2325 01:22:11,430 --> 01:22:10,080 speak for anybody because until this is 2326 01:22:13,030 --> 01:22:11,440 why i would love to have somebody on 2327 01:22:14,310 --> 01:22:13,040 like an actual physicist and talk to 2328 01:22:15,510 --> 01:22:14,320 them to get into their mindset a little 2329 01:22:16,950 --> 01:22:15,520 bit because they gotta yeah different 2330 01:22:18,790 --> 01:22:16,960 breed of person and animal you know what 2331 01:22:19,830 --> 01:22:18,800 i mean like they just the way they see 2332 01:22:21,990 --> 01:22:19,840 the world 2333 01:22:23,750 --> 01:22:22,000 would be so insightful because they just 2334 01:22:25,030 --> 01:22:23,760 have a different level of understanding 2335 01:22:26,709 --> 01:22:25,040 and i think it would give us a little 2336 01:22:28,790 --> 01:22:26,719 bit better 2337 01:22:30,229 --> 01:22:28,800 feel on what maybe is going on there a 2338 01:22:31,910 --> 01:22:30,239 little bit but i don't think that 2339 01:22:33,750 --> 01:22:31,920 everyone who works at cern is like out 2340 01:22:35,189 --> 01:22:33,760 to destroy the world 2341 01:22:36,790 --> 01:22:35,199 no 2342 01:22:40,310 --> 01:22:36,800 i'm sure there's just everyday people 2343 01:22:41,750 --> 01:22:40,320 there too yeah yeah i mean 2344 01:22:43,910 --> 01:22:41,760 of course there's something up and you 2345 01:22:46,229 --> 01:22:43,920 know you were talking about how it's 2346 01:22:48,390 --> 01:22:46,239 very compartmentalized like 2347 01:22:50,629 --> 01:22:48,400 one may not even know what the other is 2348 01:22:52,550 --> 01:22:50,639 doing that right there leads to a lot of 2349 01:22:53,830 --> 01:22:52,560 conspiracy you know what you could do 2350 01:22:55,430 --> 01:22:53,840 with that 2351 01:22:56,950 --> 01:22:55,440 if one one hand doesn't know what the 2352 01:22:58,310 --> 01:22:56,960 other one's doing 2353 01:22:59,350 --> 01:22:58,320 you could get into all sorts of trouble 2354 01:23:03,910 --> 01:22:59,360 with that 2355 01:23:07,669 --> 01:23:06,390 but it's you know at a certain point too 2356 01:23:09,030 --> 01:23:07,679 they even talk about this when you're 2357 01:23:11,189 --> 01:23:09,040 looking up when the evidence was 2358 01:23:12,550 --> 01:23:11,199 changing with like a gypshot oh man i'm 2359 01:23:15,030 --> 01:23:12,560 murdering this today 2360 01:23:16,470 --> 01:23:15,040 what's that called egyptian egypt 2361 01:23:18,149 --> 01:23:16,480 there's a term for this 2362 01:23:20,790 --> 01:23:18,159 what happened 2363 01:23:22,709 --> 01:23:20,800 what are you trying to say egyptology 2364 01:23:24,790 --> 01:23:22,719 thank you it was like it was there but 2365 01:23:25,990 --> 01:23:24,800 the words weren't coming out um and they 2366 01:23:27,189 --> 01:23:26,000 were saying well you guys are looking 2367 01:23:28,629 --> 01:23:27,199 for evidence talking about like tool 2368 01:23:29,910 --> 01:23:28,639 marks and stuff specifically pointing 2369 01:23:31,750 --> 01:23:29,920 out like listen this is copper and 2370 01:23:33,110 --> 01:23:31,760 bronze there's no way you built 2371 01:23:34,149 --> 01:23:33,120 anyways that's a whole other subject 2372 01:23:35,510 --> 01:23:34,159 point being they're like you guys are 2373 01:23:37,430 --> 01:23:35,520 just looking for the evidence to your 2374 01:23:38,870 --> 01:23:37,440 conspiracy and it's like 2375 01:23:40,790 --> 01:23:38,880 yeah but if the evidence is there even 2376 01:23:42,229 --> 01:23:40,800 if you're looking for it and creating it 2377 01:23:45,750 --> 01:23:42,239 by looking 2378 01:23:48,390 --> 01:23:45,760 it's there so you gotta address it and 2379 01:23:51,270 --> 01:23:48,400 cern has made no um 2380 01:23:53,030 --> 01:23:51,280 they've pulled no punches in their open 2381 01:23:54,149 --> 01:23:53,040 uh interviews that they've given i 2382 01:23:55,510 --> 01:23:54,159 believe it on their website i didn't 2383 01:23:57,430 --> 01:23:55,520 pull up their actual website itself but 2384 01:23:58,390 --> 01:23:57,440 they've said that listen we are trying 2385 01:24:00,149 --> 01:23:58,400 to open 2386 01:24:01,350 --> 01:24:00,159 portals to other dimensions and 2387 01:24:02,550 --> 01:24:01,360 realities and we're trying to 2388 01:24:04,950 --> 01:24:02,560 communicate 2389 01:24:06,470 --> 01:24:04,960 i think one of the interviews that i 2390 01:24:07,669 --> 01:24:06,480 briefly read about and it was like kind 2391 01:24:09,110 --> 01:24:07,679 of off the cuff and they remained 2392 01:24:10,470 --> 01:24:09,120 anonymous and stuff said that when 2393 01:24:11,910 --> 01:24:10,480 you're opening that door they're like we 2394 01:24:13,110 --> 01:24:11,920 don't know always what we're sending 2395 01:24:14,470 --> 01:24:13,120 through and we don't know what's coming 2396 01:24:16,629 --> 01:24:14,480 in and i was like well that's very 2397 01:24:19,030 --> 01:24:16,639 interesting way to put that that's you 2398 01:24:20,310 --> 01:24:19,040 know like and again it's it's 2399 01:24:22,709 --> 01:24:20,320 it's one of those things that's like 2400 01:24:24,709 --> 01:24:22,719 unless you're a an extremely intelligent 2401 01:24:26,310 --> 01:24:24,719 physicist working with a team to 2402 01:24:27,830 --> 01:24:26,320 understand the whole process it's very 2403 01:24:28,950 --> 01:24:27,840 hard as any individual so i always try 2404 01:24:31,830 --> 01:24:28,960 to remember in the back of my head that 2405 01:24:33,430 --> 01:24:31,840 like it could be just pure ignorance 2406 01:24:35,110 --> 01:24:33,440 which isn't a bad thing or just lack of 2407 01:24:36,709 --> 01:24:35,120 knowledge on it we just don't know and 2408 01:24:39,110 --> 01:24:36,719 so because of that we're coming up with 2409 01:24:40,950 --> 01:24:39,120 these you know conspiracy theories that 2410 01:24:42,310 --> 01:24:40,960 oh this fits because of this and i 2411 01:24:44,229 --> 01:24:42,320 totally recognize that that can be 2412 01:24:45,910 --> 01:24:44,239 happening but on the other hand if 2413 01:24:46,790 --> 01:24:45,920 they're telling you that this is the 2414 01:24:48,790 --> 01:24:46,800 goal 2415 01:24:50,709 --> 01:24:48,800 we're trying to understand 2416 01:24:52,870 --> 01:24:50,719 down to the sm like to understand the 2417 01:24:55,350 --> 01:24:52,880 macro of the whole universe we need to 2418 01:24:57,189 --> 01:24:55,360 understand the the the micro version of 2419 01:24:58,950 --> 01:24:57,199 like quantum mechanics and even go 2420 01:25:00,229 --> 01:24:58,960 smaller and smaller than that 2421 01:25:03,350 --> 01:25:00,239 and in doing that they're like we need 2422 01:25:05,430 --> 01:25:03,360 to to essentially make a big bang and 2423 01:25:07,750 --> 01:25:05,440 what's really kind of scary 2424 01:25:09,350 --> 01:25:07,760 if i'm not mistaken it started in june 2425 01:25:10,229 --> 01:25:09,360 and i think all the way into july i 2426 01:25:12,229 --> 01:25:10,239 think they're getting ready to fire it 2427 01:25:13,910 --> 01:25:12,239 back up they were doing maintenance they 2428 01:25:14,950 --> 01:25:13,920 pulled out the um oh i don't remember 2429 01:25:17,110 --> 01:25:14,960 the piece it's right where the two 2430 01:25:18,149 --> 01:25:17,120 particles accelerate before they meet in 2431 01:25:19,750 --> 01:25:18,159 the chamber 2432 01:25:21,430 --> 01:25:19,760 um they pulled those out and they're 2433 01:25:23,510 --> 01:25:21,440 replacing them and now they're going to 2434 01:25:25,030 --> 01:25:23,520 go even faster i'm sorry there's going 2435 01:25:28,709 --> 01:25:25,040 to be even more of them than what i 2436 01:25:30,310 --> 01:25:28,719 think was uh 20 20 faster which again i 2437 01:25:31,510 --> 01:25:30,320 thought the speed limit was the speed of 2438 01:25:32,950 --> 01:25:31,520 light is the speed of the universe or 2439 01:25:34,870 --> 01:25:32,960 whatever and they're supposed to be like 2440 01:25:37,030 --> 01:25:34,880 40 more protons that they can put 2441 01:25:39,110 --> 01:25:37,040 through there at once so they're really 2442 01:25:41,030 --> 01:25:39,120 ramping up what they can do there and 2443 01:25:44,149 --> 01:25:41,040 then they have future plans beyond the 2444 01:25:46,470 --> 01:25:44,159 17 mile uh hydro collider or whatever to 2445 01:25:48,629 --> 01:25:46,480 make this massive one that 2446 01:25:50,070 --> 01:25:48,639 i i was trying to find how big it is how 2447 01:25:52,790 --> 01:25:50,080 many miles it's going to be but it 2448 01:25:55,990 --> 01:25:52,800 dwarfs i mean absolutely dwarfs the the 2449 01:25:57,590 --> 01:25:56,000 current one so to me that's like 2450 01:25:58,870 --> 01:25:57,600 i don't know maybe we should uh talk 2451 01:26:00,310 --> 01:25:58,880 about that 2452 01:26:01,830 --> 01:26:00,320 none of us are really voting on any of 2453 01:26:03,750 --> 01:26:01,840 this or like 2454 01:26:05,350 --> 01:26:03,760 i don't know a lot of the science of it 2455 01:26:07,350 --> 01:26:05,360 but i do know 2456 01:26:08,390 --> 01:26:07,360 why it's gonna go faster than the speed 2457 01:26:11,189 --> 01:26:08,400 of sound 2458 01:26:14,310 --> 01:26:11,199 perfect because i'm at light i'm sorry 2459 01:26:17,030 --> 01:26:14,320 the speed of sound is literally your 2460 01:26:18,950 --> 01:26:17,040 barrier for time travel 2461 01:26:22,870 --> 01:26:18,960 so if you can go faster than the speed 2462 01:26:23,590 --> 01:26:22,880 of sound you can literally lap yourself 2463 01:26:26,310 --> 01:26:23,600 and 2464 01:26:27,510 --> 01:26:26,320 literally you've got your your time 2465 01:26:29,350 --> 01:26:27,520 travel 2466 01:26:31,270 --> 01:26:29,360 thing now that's what they're trying to 2467 01:26:33,510 --> 01:26:31,280 do if they can get those particles to 2468 01:26:36,790 --> 01:26:33,520 travel faster than that 2469 01:26:38,550 --> 01:26:36,800 it can literally create that situation 2470 01:26:40,790 --> 01:26:38,560 where they could put it back in time or 2471 01:26:42,229 --> 01:26:40,800 move it forward 2472 01:26:44,629 --> 01:26:42,239 that's where they're going to figure out 2473 01:26:46,790 --> 01:26:44,639 whether times linear or not 2474 01:26:48,070 --> 01:26:46,800 well don't but i i could be wrong in 2475 01:26:49,350 --> 01:26:48,080 this but i mean they're already going 2476 01:26:51,189 --> 01:26:49,360 faster than the speed of sound right 2477 01:26:52,709 --> 01:26:51,199 like la i thought i mean i could be 2478 01:26:54,229 --> 01:26:52,719 mistaken but i thought when i looked it 2479 01:26:55,430 --> 01:26:54,239 up that they said that they were 2480 01:26:57,350 --> 01:26:55,440 99 2481 01:26:58,709 --> 01:26:57,360 the speed of light yeah yeah i'm sorry i 2482 01:26:59,830 --> 01:26:58,719 didn't mean the sound no okay i was 2483 01:27:01,030 --> 01:26:59,840 making sure i didn't say the speed of 2484 01:27:02,470 --> 01:27:01,040 sound too because i thought that's what 2485 01:27:03,910 --> 01:27:02,480 you were saying was like guys i said 2486 01:27:05,510 --> 01:27:03,920 that i apologize i'm at the speed of 2487 01:27:07,270 --> 01:27:05,520 light that one's on me 2488 01:27:08,790 --> 01:27:07,280 speed of light sorry you're fine you're 2489 01:27:09,669 --> 01:27:08,800 totally fine i just want to make sure 2490 01:27:13,030 --> 01:27:09,679 everybody's listening to us right now 2491 01:27:15,590 --> 01:27:13,040 guys we understand light is faster 2492 01:27:17,510 --> 01:27:15,600 sorry sorry it's 2493 01:27:18,629 --> 01:27:17,520 i told you i'm not a scientist i don't 2494 01:27:20,629 --> 01:27:18,639 claim to be 2495 01:27:21,510 --> 01:27:20,639 uh no no worries 2496 01:27:26,550 --> 01:27:21,520 um 2497 01:27:27,910 --> 01:27:26,560 scientists within cern have really been 2498 01:27:29,510 --> 01:27:27,920 up front about some of this stuff and 2499 01:27:31,430 --> 01:27:29,520 they're like yeah we're we're gonna be 2500 01:27:33,110 --> 01:27:31,440 doing some stuff that's a little crazy 2501 01:27:35,430 --> 01:27:33,120 um and some of the scientists within 2502 01:27:37,030 --> 01:27:35,440 cern are against some of the stuff 2503 01:27:38,149 --> 01:27:37,040 they're doing while some of them are 2504 01:27:39,030 --> 01:27:38,159 four 2505 01:27:41,189 --> 01:27:39,040 um 2506 01:27:42,470 --> 01:27:41,199 there's even been some hilarious there's 2507 01:27:44,550 --> 01:27:42,480 been some hilarious stuff that's 2508 01:27:46,870 --> 01:27:44,560 happened along in the years um 2509 01:27:49,510 --> 01:27:46,880 did you uh did you read up on the time 2510 01:27:52,390 --> 01:27:49,520 traveling bird with a baguette 2511 01:27:59,270 --> 01:27:54,550 okay so this one this one's hilarious 2512 01:28:01,030 --> 01:27:59,280 this is really funny so back uh in 2009 2513 01:28:03,110 --> 01:28:01,040 the collider 2514 01:28:05,350 --> 01:28:03,120 shut itself down 2515 01:28:07,189 --> 01:28:05,360 because of a maintenance problem which 2516 01:28:09,030 --> 01:28:07,199 is insane because 2517 01:28:11,669 --> 01:28:09,040 the the way that the the collider runs 2518 01:28:13,830 --> 01:28:11,679 so the collider is run off of these 2519 01:28:17,110 --> 01:28:13,840 gigantic magnets that's how they get the 2520 01:28:19,590 --> 01:28:17,120 protons to go right um and they're super 2521 01:28:22,790 --> 01:28:19,600 cooled they're actually kept colder than 2522 01:28:24,470 --> 01:28:22,800 space that's how cold those super 2523 01:28:28,550 --> 01:28:24,480 magnets have to be 2524 01:28:30,950 --> 01:28:28,560 um and if the power shuts off to them 2525 01:28:32,790 --> 01:28:30,960 you know it's it's done for a while it 2526 01:28:34,629 --> 01:28:32,800 takes i think they said three to four 2527 01:28:36,070 --> 01:28:34,639 days for them to super cool enough again 2528 01:28:39,110 --> 01:28:36,080 to use it 2529 01:28:40,550 --> 01:28:39,120 and uh the system shut down like power 2530 01:28:43,030 --> 01:28:40,560 to everything just shut down and they 2531 01:28:44,310 --> 01:28:43,040 were like what the heck they had they 2532 01:28:45,830 --> 01:28:44,320 were supposed to have all these backups 2533 01:28:48,149 --> 01:28:45,840 and stuff that would quit that stop that 2534 01:28:50,149 --> 01:28:48,159 from happening but it happened 2535 01:28:53,110 --> 01:28:50,159 and so they started doing maintenance 2536 01:28:54,629 --> 01:28:53,120 everywhere and they found this piece of 2537 01:28:57,270 --> 01:28:54,639 bread 2538 01:29:01,110 --> 01:28:57,280 in a transistor area just above the 2539 01:29:03,189 --> 01:29:01,120 collider itself and it had literally 2540 01:29:05,750 --> 01:29:03,199 fried out something 2541 01:29:07,270 --> 01:29:05,760 and shut the entire system down 2542 01:29:08,870 --> 01:29:07,280 and they 2543 01:29:10,390 --> 01:29:08,880 hypothesized 2544 01:29:11,990 --> 01:29:10,400 that it was a bird because it was a 2545 01:29:13,189 --> 01:29:12,000 piece of baguette i don't know how they 2546 01:29:14,870 --> 01:29:13,199 knew it was a piece of baguette but 2547 01:29:17,270 --> 01:29:14,880 apparently that's what it was and they 2548 01:29:20,550 --> 01:29:17,280 had hypothesized that a bird with this 2549 01:29:23,510 --> 01:29:20,560 piece of baguette had flown over the top 2550 01:29:25,669 --> 01:29:23,520 and it had fallen down into the station 2551 01:29:26,950 --> 01:29:25,679 where all the power supply was and had 2552 01:29:29,590 --> 01:29:26,960 blown it 2553 01:29:32,790 --> 01:29:29,600 this this one little piece of bread 2554 01:29:35,430 --> 01:29:32,800 and it shut the collider down for a week 2555 01:29:38,790 --> 01:29:35,440 this one little piece of bread 2556 01:29:39,910 --> 01:29:38,800 meanwhile these two scientists 2557 01:29:41,110 --> 01:29:39,920 actually 2558 01:29:43,030 --> 01:29:41,120 wrote 2559 01:29:44,790 --> 01:29:43,040 a paper on it 2560 01:29:48,550 --> 01:29:44,800 about how 2561 01:29:50,629 --> 01:29:48,560 the collider itself was so against the 2562 01:29:53,510 --> 01:29:50,639 nature of our universe 2563 01:29:55,430 --> 01:29:53,520 that the universe itself had sent this 2564 01:29:57,990 --> 01:29:55,440 time traveling bird 2565 01:30:00,229 --> 01:29:58,000 to shut it down it was a there was a 2566 01:30:02,070 --> 01:30:00,239 scientific paper written on it 2567 01:30:05,030 --> 01:30:02,080 you can go read it 2568 01:30:07,910 --> 01:30:05,040 it's hilarious 2569 01:30:08,709 --> 01:30:07,920 i will shut that down 2570 01:30:12,229 --> 01:30:08,719 yeah 2571 01:30:13,590 --> 01:30:12,239 so uh one of the scientists was um beck 2572 01:30:16,149 --> 01:30:13,600 nielsen 2573 01:30:18,390 --> 01:30:16,159 and the other one was an asian guy and 2574 01:30:21,590 --> 01:30:18,400 i'm gonna murder his name right now it's 2575 01:30:23,990 --> 01:30:21,600 gonna be fantastic his name was uh maceo 2576 01:30:26,390 --> 01:30:24,000 that part i know 2577 01:30:28,870 --> 01:30:26,400 nino mania 2578 01:30:31,189 --> 01:30:28,880 nino mia i can't pronounce it get no 2579 01:30:33,030 --> 01:30:31,199 hate from me so uh 2580 01:30:37,590 --> 01:30:33,040 but yeah they both 2581 01:30:38,950 --> 01:30:37,600 published paper scientific papers on why 2582 01:30:40,470 --> 01:30:38,960 this happened 2583 01:30:43,189 --> 01:30:40,480 that this time traveling bird with a 2584 01:30:46,149 --> 01:30:43,199 baguette had been sent by the universe 2585 01:30:49,510 --> 01:30:46,159 itself to shut down 2586 01:30:53,430 --> 01:30:49,520 what basically they they saw as a 2587 01:30:57,189 --> 01:30:55,430 that's how it that's how against the the 2588 01:30:58,870 --> 01:30:57,199 collider it is there's a good portion of 2589 01:31:01,110 --> 01:30:58,880 the scientific community that does not 2590 01:31:03,910 --> 01:31:01,120 want that collider around or colliders 2591 01:31:06,310 --> 01:31:03,920 in general yeah no i agree on that and 2592 01:31:07,510 --> 01:31:06,320 it into the idea again guys i'm going to 2593 01:31:09,430 --> 01:31:07,520 murder this because i don't know what 2594 01:31:11,030 --> 01:31:09,440 i'm talking by the way uh sunny by the 2595 01:31:13,430 --> 01:31:11,040 way brother thanks for tuning in tonight 2596 01:31:14,790 --> 01:31:13,440 he thinks that jess should be a honorary 2597 01:31:17,750 --> 01:31:14,800 not even honored he says you should now 2598 01:31:19,270 --> 01:31:17,760 be an official doctor scientist so 2599 01:31:20,390 --> 01:31:19,280 maybe we could talk to ben and joe we 2600 01:31:21,910 --> 01:31:20,400 can get your shirt or something i don't 2601 01:31:25,750 --> 01:31:21,920 know we'll get you hooked up 2602 01:31:27,350 --> 01:31:25,760 um but yeah with with this idea of them 2603 01:31:28,550 --> 01:31:27,360 with the colliders the colliders have 2604 01:31:30,070 --> 01:31:28,560 existed for a while and they've kind of 2605 01:31:31,750 --> 01:31:30,080 just kept building you know the knicks 2606 01:31:33,510 --> 01:31:31,760 sides up and exercise up 2607 01:31:35,830 --> 01:31:33,520 um 2608 01:31:36,950 --> 01:31:35,840 with the latest one though and i think 2609 01:31:38,629 --> 01:31:36,960 that's where i'm gonna murder it because 2610 01:31:40,709 --> 01:31:38,639 like i don't understand it all guys i'm 2611 01:31:42,629 --> 01:31:40,719 sorry but i always try to share what a 2612 01:31:45,189 --> 01:31:42,639 little bit i knew about it was that 2613 01:31:46,149 --> 01:31:45,199 the the antimatter that they're creating 2614 01:31:48,310 --> 01:31:46,159 out of this 2615 01:31:51,189 --> 01:31:48,320 they were talking about how unbelievably 2616 01:31:53,830 --> 01:31:51,199 unstable it is if it gets in contact 2617 01:31:55,430 --> 01:31:53,840 with matter at all now the thing about 2618 01:31:56,950 --> 01:31:55,440 it was is that it that it really seems 2619 01:31:58,950 --> 01:31:56,960 to happen and it's so microscopic that 2620 01:32:00,229 --> 01:31:58,960 like it wouldn't matter but they were 2621 01:32:02,669 --> 01:32:00,239 talking about how many 2622 01:32:05,270 --> 01:32:02,679 uh oh man it was like 2623 01:32:07,750 --> 01:32:05,280 380 million or something like that a 2624 01:32:10,149 --> 01:32:07,760 gram or maybe it was 380 trillion a gram 2625 01:32:11,910 --> 01:32:10,159 it was it was a ton of money per gram 2626 01:32:13,189 --> 01:32:11,920 because they were talking about how one 2627 01:32:17,030 --> 01:32:13,199 gram of this 2628 01:32:18,310 --> 01:32:17,040 this antimatter was the equivalent to uh 2629 01:32:20,709 --> 01:32:18,320 10 2630 01:32:22,550 --> 01:32:20,719 current nowadays that we have uh nuclear 2631 01:32:24,390 --> 01:32:22,560 bombs that was that equivalent like if 2632 01:32:27,590 --> 01:32:24,400 something did go wrong 2633 01:32:29,030 --> 01:32:27,600 it's over like it wouldn't be uh yeah 2634 01:32:30,950 --> 01:32:29,040 things aren't cool in europe right now 2635 01:32:31,830 --> 01:32:30,960 it'd be like well the world is no longer 2636 01:32:33,270 --> 01:32:31,840 good 2637 01:32:36,229 --> 01:32:33,280 again in the grand scheme of things you 2638 01:32:38,070 --> 01:32:36,239 know and if we're in this idea that we 2639 01:32:39,270 --> 01:32:38,080 kind of leave when we come back or 2640 01:32:40,629 --> 01:32:39,280 whatever your personal beliefs are and 2641 01:32:42,950 --> 01:32:40,639 wherever in life 2642 01:32:44,310 --> 01:32:42,960 no judgment from me but you know maybe 2643 01:32:46,070 --> 01:32:44,320 one would say well you know they're not 2644 01:32:49,350 --> 01:32:46,080 that worried about it i don't know 2645 01:32:50,629 --> 01:32:49,360 i do feel like there's a part of me that 2646 01:32:54,870 --> 01:32:50,639 ha 2647 01:32:56,709 --> 01:32:54,880 never 2648 01:32:58,629 --> 01:32:56,719 you know set out to sail the dangerous 2649 01:33:00,629 --> 01:32:58,639 oceans and had risked people dying we'd 2650 01:33:03,430 --> 01:33:00,639 never be where we're at now we'd never 2651 01:33:04,550 --> 01:33:03,440 push that boundary and you're not wrong 2652 01:33:06,310 --> 01:33:04,560 but 2653 01:33:09,669 --> 01:33:06,320 uh and again i'm not saying that they're 2654 01:33:11,350 --> 01:33:09,679 not being safe but it's just very 2655 01:33:12,790 --> 01:33:11,360 if it does go wrong it would be really 2656 01:33:15,350 --> 01:33:12,800 wrong i think to be clear though they 2657 01:33:16,950 --> 01:33:15,360 said listen we're creating so like it's 2658 01:33:19,110 --> 01:33:16,960 so microscopic what's being created 2659 01:33:20,149 --> 01:33:19,120 right now that we could never risk doing 2660 01:33:22,629 --> 01:33:20,159 that 2661 01:33:24,070 --> 01:33:22,639 again i think anybody who's into the 2662 01:33:25,430 --> 01:33:24,080 paranormal who's into the ufo stuff 2663 01:33:27,750 --> 01:33:25,440 who's into perhaps the government 2664 01:33:29,189 --> 01:33:27,760 control or you know you know the 2665 01:33:30,470 --> 01:33:29,199 all-seeing eye kind of big brother 2666 01:33:32,629 --> 01:33:30,480 listening deal 2667 01:33:34,390 --> 01:33:32,639 we'll we'll pretty quickly recognize 2668 01:33:35,910 --> 01:33:34,400 that what we're told is going on and 2669 01:33:37,830 --> 01:33:35,920 what's happening are two very different 2670 01:33:39,110 --> 01:33:37,840 things generally so 2671 01:33:41,350 --> 01:33:39,120 to each their own and what they want to 2672 01:33:43,350 --> 01:33:41,360 accept on the on the story that's being 2673 01:33:44,709 --> 01:33:43,360 put out there um 2674 01:33:46,550 --> 01:33:44,719 but yeah i mean what are your thoughts 2675 01:33:47,830 --> 01:33:46,560 on that idea of just knowing that that 2676 01:33:49,430 --> 01:33:47,840 could happen if 2677 01:33:51,110 --> 01:33:49,440 this goes out 2678 01:33:52,950 --> 01:33:51,120 i think some of that has already 2679 01:33:54,390 --> 01:33:52,960 happened um 2680 01:33:56,950 --> 01:33:54,400 and we've been witness to it but just 2681 01:33:58,870 --> 01:33:56,960 didn't realize what exactly it was um 2682 01:34:01,750 --> 01:33:58,880 have you heard yeah have you heard of 2683 01:34:02,950 --> 01:34:01,760 the awake experiment that they did 2684 01:34:06,470 --> 01:34:02,960 no 2685 01:34:09,430 --> 01:34:06,480 yeah so it happened in 2016. 2686 01:34:12,229 --> 01:34:09,440 yet again 2016 pops up a lot for cern 2687 01:34:14,229 --> 01:34:12,239 some crazy stuff um they did an 2688 01:34:15,990 --> 01:34:14,239 experiment it was called the awake 2689 01:34:18,870 --> 01:34:16,000 experiment um 2690 01:34:19,669 --> 01:34:18,880 awake stands for something oh i'll find 2691 01:34:22,550 --> 01:34:19,679 it 2692 01:34:25,750 --> 01:34:22,560 awoke guys 2693 01:34:29,910 --> 01:34:25,760 so it stands for advanced proton driven 2694 01:34:30,790 --> 01:34:29,920 plasma wakefield accelerator 2695 01:34:35,750 --> 01:34:30,800 so 2696 01:34:38,709 --> 01:34:35,760 they started the awake experiment on 2697 01:34:40,629 --> 01:34:38,719 june 24th 2016. 2698 01:34:44,070 --> 01:34:40,639 and that night 2699 01:34:46,470 --> 01:34:44,080 the entirety of that city 2700 01:34:49,350 --> 01:34:46,480 got to see the most spectacular 2701 01:34:50,790 --> 01:34:49,360 light and cloud show you have ever seen 2702 01:34:52,390 --> 01:34:50,800 you can actually get up online and see 2703 01:34:54,870 --> 01:34:52,400 the picture 2704 01:34:56,870 --> 01:34:54,880 um yeah it was a 2705 01:34:58,470 --> 01:34:56,880 portal-shaped cloud it almost looks like 2706 01:35:00,229 --> 01:34:58,480 the mushroom cloud you get with a 2707 01:35:03,430 --> 01:35:00,239 nuclear explosion you know how it kind 2708 01:35:04,550 --> 01:35:03,440 of comes up in it and then forms out 2709 01:35:06,390 --> 01:35:04,560 um 2710 01:35:08,790 --> 01:35:06,400 it happened in the middle of the night 2711 01:35:11,669 --> 01:35:08,800 it lasted for a couple of hours there's 2712 01:35:15,669 --> 01:35:11,679 tons of photos you can see of it and the 2713 01:35:20,950 --> 01:35:15,679 crazy thing about it is is that 2714 01:35:22,390 --> 01:35:20,960 this cloud was lit from the inside 2715 01:35:25,510 --> 01:35:22,400 not from above 2716 01:35:26,709 --> 01:35:25,520 and not from below but from the inside 2717 01:35:28,229 --> 01:35:26,719 out 2718 01:35:30,709 --> 01:35:28,239 and it's just one of the most amazing 2719 01:35:33,109 --> 01:35:30,719 photos that i've ever seen 2720 01:35:34,950 --> 01:35:33,119 um and it happened 2721 01:35:37,270 --> 01:35:34,960 the day that they started the awake 2722 01:35:40,229 --> 01:35:37,280 experiment and it was basically another 2723 01:35:43,350 --> 01:35:40,239 accelerator being kicked on um testing 2724 01:35:44,709 --> 01:35:43,360 out protons and how they interact 2725 01:35:47,990 --> 01:35:44,719 is the picture just called woke just 2726 01:35:51,030 --> 01:35:49,750 um i don't know 2727 01:35:52,470 --> 01:35:51,040 cause i'm just i tried to type it in 2728 01:35:54,950 --> 01:35:52,480 just to see if we could find something 2729 01:35:56,709 --> 01:35:54,960 and i'm only finding like 2730 01:35:57,830 --> 01:35:56,719 it you said it was green right and at 2731 01:35:58,870 --> 01:35:57,840 night time i'll see if i can keep 2732 01:35:59,669 --> 01:35:58,880 finding it that's right i just wanted to 2733 01:36:01,350 --> 01:35:59,679 see if i could pull it up because it 2734 01:36:02,709 --> 01:36:01,360 sounds amazing what you're describing i 2735 01:36:04,870 --> 01:36:02,719 could find it 2736 01:36:07,189 --> 01:36:04,880 it's an amazing photo 2737 01:36:10,149 --> 01:36:08,550 because i feel like there there's one 2738 01:36:12,390 --> 01:36:10,159 right here i'll try to share it now this 2739 01:36:14,310 --> 01:36:12,400 is it just says terrifying phenomenon 2740 01:36:15,510 --> 01:36:14,320 reported over cern youtube now again 2741 01:36:16,709 --> 01:36:15,520 guys every time we share this stuff you 2742 01:36:19,030 --> 01:36:16,719 never know 2743 01:36:20,470 --> 01:36:19,040 what we're going to be getting but i'll 2744 01:36:22,390 --> 01:36:20,480 try to share this one if this is what 2745 01:36:26,310 --> 01:36:22,400 you're describing because it's pretty 2746 01:36:29,830 --> 01:36:28,310 here we go all right and then let me 2747 01:36:31,510 --> 01:36:29,840 know if this pops up for you jess i'll 2748 01:36:32,790 --> 01:36:31,520 try to pull this up over here is this 2749 01:36:34,709 --> 01:36:32,800 the picture 2750 01:36:37,189 --> 01:36:34,719 because that just looks like okay i was 2751 01:36:38,870 --> 01:36:37,199 like come on come on that was like it 2752 01:36:40,149 --> 01:36:38,880 was like a little too much on the nose 2753 01:36:42,709 --> 01:36:40,159 there i was like there's no way that 2754 01:36:44,870 --> 01:36:42,719 can't be the picture come on well i mean 2755 01:36:47,109 --> 01:36:44,880 um it very well could be it could be 2756 01:36:49,109 --> 01:36:47,119 looking up underneath of it the only 2757 01:36:51,030 --> 01:36:49,119 photos i've seen is looking at it from a 2758 01:36:53,030 --> 01:36:51,040 distance now 2759 01:36:54,790 --> 01:36:53,040 thousands of photos were taken that 2760 01:36:56,390 --> 01:36:54,800 night so that may very well be one that 2761 01:36:57,910 --> 01:36:56,400 was they were close enough to look up 2762 01:36:59,109 --> 01:36:57,920 inside of it 2763 01:37:01,189 --> 01:36:59,119 um 2764 01:37:02,390 --> 01:37:01,199 i'm trying to find 2765 01:37:05,669 --> 01:37:02,400 so 2766 01:37:07,350 --> 01:37:05,679 about he said yeah didn't the cern 2767 01:37:10,390 --> 01:37:07,360 scientists watch stranger things 100 2768 01:37:12,470 --> 01:37:10,400 percent bro i mean did they not know 2769 01:37:14,470 --> 01:37:12,480 and some have hypothesized okay now this 2770 01:37:16,470 --> 01:37:14,480 is i'm gonna this isn't ben and joe this 2771 01:37:19,030 --> 01:37:16,480 is just william expressing an opinion 2772 01:37:20,790 --> 01:37:19,040 okay this is me 2773 01:37:21,990 --> 01:37:20,800 i have always felt 2774 01:37:23,830 --> 01:37:22,000 that 2775 01:37:25,669 --> 01:37:23,840 and for good reason having to do with 2776 01:37:26,790 --> 01:37:25,679 three other letter agencies the cia and 2777 01:37:28,629 --> 01:37:26,800 some other ones involved and what 2778 01:37:30,070 --> 01:37:28,639 they've done and declassified documents 2779 01:37:31,830 --> 01:37:30,080 that 2780 01:37:34,149 --> 01:37:31,840 mainstream media 2781 01:37:37,030 --> 01:37:34,159 is in my opinion and through hollywood 2782 01:37:39,669 --> 01:37:37,040 and entertainment a slow disclosure 2783 01:37:42,070 --> 01:37:39,679 process of influencing people to feel 2784 01:37:43,430 --> 01:37:42,080 either a certain way and direct them 2785 01:37:45,669 --> 01:37:43,440 but there have been those that 2786 01:37:47,990 --> 01:37:45,679 throughout time have it has been used to 2787 01:37:50,550 --> 01:37:48,000 get people more comfortable with ideas 2788 01:37:51,830 --> 01:37:50,560 and i really think 2789 01:37:53,510 --> 01:37:51,840 when you look at how things have been 2790 01:37:55,350 --> 01:37:53,520 ramped up with the whole 2791 01:37:56,709 --> 01:37:55,360 alien stuff for years and years and 2792 01:37:58,709 --> 01:37:56,719 years it got to the point to where like 2793 01:38:00,070 --> 01:37:58,719 our grandparents would laugh at it so 2794 01:38:02,709 --> 01:38:00,080 people in our generation took it very 2795 01:38:04,709 --> 01:38:02,719 seriously and that was a large part due 2796 01:38:06,950 --> 01:38:04,719 to hollywood and the 2797 01:38:08,229 --> 01:38:06,960 the productions that they brought forth 2798 01:38:09,990 --> 01:38:08,239 because people just got more comfortable 2799 01:38:11,669 --> 01:38:10,000 seeing it and hearing and thinking about 2800 01:38:13,189 --> 01:38:11,679 it and so when you think about stranger 2801 01:38:15,109 --> 01:38:13,199 things 2802 01:38:16,550 --> 01:38:15,119 i don't think it's that far there's 2803 01:38:18,390 --> 01:38:16,560 another company i can't remember the 2804 01:38:19,510 --> 01:38:18,400 name of them they're here at northwoods 2805 01:38:21,830 --> 01:38:19,520 i think it's called northwoods they're 2806 01:38:23,270 --> 01:38:21,840 here in the united states and they were 2807 01:38:25,109 --> 01:38:23,280 the ones who actually said that they 2808 01:38:26,229 --> 01:38:25,119 were like shooting particles in the 2809 01:38:27,750 --> 01:38:26,239 other dimension they know for a fact 2810 01:38:29,270 --> 01:38:27,760 they were sending them somewhere and 2811 01:38:30,629 --> 01:38:29,280 then i think they had hinted at that 2812 01:38:32,229 --> 01:38:30,639 they were getting communication i could 2813 01:38:33,590 --> 01:38:32,239 be wrong on that but i thought it was 2814 01:38:35,189 --> 01:38:33,600 northwoods 2815 01:38:36,950 --> 01:38:35,199 um but that's just my thought on as far 2816 01:38:38,950 --> 01:38:36,960 as apollo talking about the whole 2817 01:38:40,149 --> 01:38:38,960 stranger things sorry about that did you 2818 01:38:43,189 --> 01:38:40,159 have some did you pull some up over 2819 01:38:46,310 --> 01:38:45,189 oh wow okay i think i did see that 2820 01:38:48,229 --> 01:38:46,320 picture so i'll see if i can pull that 2821 01:38:50,550 --> 01:38:48,239 one up over here 2822 01:38:52,790 --> 01:38:50,560 so this one's under i just put in awake 2823 01:38:53,669 --> 01:38:52,800 experiment cern photo 2824 01:38:55,189 --> 01:38:53,679 okay 2825 01:38:57,270 --> 01:38:55,199 i will share that one because i did see 2826 01:38:58,709 --> 01:38:57,280 that one i just didn't know if i thought 2827 01:39:00,790 --> 01:38:58,719 the other one was like oh that one's 2828 01:39:03,510 --> 01:39:00,800 really fantastic let's share that 2829 01:39:05,350 --> 01:39:03,520 yeah by the looks of it it probably is 2830 01:39:06,629 --> 01:39:05,360 them looking up they're close enough to 2831 01:39:09,189 --> 01:39:06,639 see up under 2832 01:39:10,790 --> 01:39:09,199 so this is the one you're saying 2833 01:39:16,550 --> 01:39:10,800 uh this is the one that popped up over 2834 01:39:21,109 --> 01:39:19,109 no yeah yeah oh it is okay i wasn't sure 2835 01:39:22,390 --> 01:39:21,119 you're okay but that is crazy so you can 2836 01:39:25,030 --> 01:39:22,400 see the size of this thing because look 2837 01:39:26,950 --> 01:39:25,040 at the i mean is it a storm though like 2838 01:39:28,790 --> 01:39:26,960 is it just a storm 2839 01:39:30,950 --> 01:39:28,800 it's not a storm 2840 01:39:32,790 --> 01:39:30,960 they said there was no rain it was 2841 01:39:34,709 --> 01:39:32,800 supposed to be clear skies that night 2842 01:39:37,189 --> 01:39:34,719 and they said 2843 01:39:38,870 --> 01:39:37,199 the so like what looks like the mushroom 2844 01:39:41,030 --> 01:39:38,880 cloud underneath 2845 01:39:43,590 --> 01:39:41,040 yeah down here started 2846 01:39:45,270 --> 01:39:43,600 yeah so it started forming 2847 01:39:47,270 --> 01:39:45,280 early in the evening 2848 01:39:49,669 --> 01:39:47,280 and by the time it got dark enough this 2849 01:39:51,030 --> 01:39:49,679 is what they were viewing it they said 2850 01:39:53,189 --> 01:39:51,040 it stayed around for quite a while 2851 01:39:55,030 --> 01:39:53,199 there's lots and lots of photos 2852 01:39:56,390 --> 01:39:55,040 that was taken of it 2853 01:39:58,149 --> 01:39:56,400 no storm 2854 01:39:59,750 --> 01:39:58,159 that's not electricity they said they 2855 01:40:01,350 --> 01:39:59,760 said that was not lightning that was 2856 01:40:03,189 --> 01:40:01,360 literally just 2857 01:40:04,070 --> 01:40:03,199 sitting there 2858 01:40:05,350 --> 01:40:04,080 wow 2859 01:40:06,629 --> 01:40:05,360 yeah and they were like what the hell 2860 01:40:08,629 --> 01:40:06,639 did they do 2861 01:40:10,149 --> 01:40:08,639 right yeah 2862 01:40:11,430 --> 01:40:10,159 they knew that they were starting that 2863 01:40:13,990 --> 01:40:11,440 awake 2864 01:40:15,350 --> 01:40:14,000 uh program that day that was big news 2865 01:40:18,310 --> 01:40:15,360 you know oh they're gonna kick on the 2866 01:40:20,790 --> 01:40:18,320 accelerator what's gonna happen 2867 01:40:22,390 --> 01:40:20,800 that's amazing i mean it's terrifying in 2868 01:40:24,709 --> 01:40:22,400 some ways but that's amazing that that 2869 01:40:26,629 --> 01:40:24,719 photograph alone is like that's a once 2870 01:40:28,870 --> 01:40:26,639 in a lifetime kind of photo to capture 2871 01:40:30,390 --> 01:40:28,880 everything 2872 01:40:32,229 --> 01:40:30,400 yeah and but it wasn't a once in a 2873 01:40:33,350 --> 01:40:32,239 lifetime everybody in that city took 2874 01:40:34,550 --> 01:40:33,360 that 2875 01:40:36,229 --> 01:40:34,560 picture 2876 01:40:37,750 --> 01:40:36,239 has it happened more than once is it i 2877 01:40:39,669 --> 01:40:37,760 mean i know it might be asking questions 2878 01:40:41,910 --> 01:40:39,679 but like has it recurred 2879 01:40:43,590 --> 01:40:41,920 uh that i don't know if i'd i think that 2880 01:40:45,510 --> 01:40:43,600 if it would it probably would be a 2881 01:40:46,950 --> 01:40:45,520 little bit more well-known um and i 2882 01:40:49,990 --> 01:40:46,960 think it's a little odd that not more 2883 01:40:52,550 --> 01:40:50,000 people know about it i ran onto it by 2884 01:40:54,229 --> 01:40:52,560 accident um when i i 2885 01:40:56,950 --> 01:40:54,239 i was doing one of my little site i've 2886 01:40:58,390 --> 01:40:56,960 told you that on the last i i'm the type 2887 01:41:00,149 --> 01:40:58,400 that will look up something and if it 2888 01:41:01,990 --> 01:41:00,159 mentions something else that's kind of 2889 01:41:03,669 --> 01:41:02,000 related to it i'll look that up too and 2890 01:41:05,669 --> 01:41:03,679 then i'll look up 2891 01:41:08,470 --> 01:41:05,679 that's how i found that i was looking up 2892 01:41:09,830 --> 01:41:08,480 some cern stuff and i i saw this little 2893 01:41:11,350 --> 01:41:09,840 tab on the side i was like oh what's 2894 01:41:12,709 --> 01:41:11,360 this about and i went and looked at this 2895 01:41:14,310 --> 01:41:12,719 and it led to 2896 01:41:15,510 --> 01:41:14,320 this photo and i was like what the hell 2897 01:41:17,350 --> 01:41:15,520 is this photo i'm looking at what does 2898 01:41:18,950 --> 01:41:17,360 this have to do with cern so i 2899 01:41:20,149 --> 01:41:18,960 backlogged it to find out where it came 2900 01:41:22,149 --> 01:41:20,159 from 2901 01:41:23,669 --> 01:41:22,159 i mean that's when i found it 2902 01:41:25,030 --> 01:41:23,679 yeah because if these are real i mean 2903 01:41:26,709 --> 01:41:25,040 this is 2904 01:41:28,229 --> 01:41:26,719 unbelievable i'm here i'm going to share 2905 01:41:30,149 --> 01:41:28,239 it again i'm sorry guys for like going 2906 01:41:31,669 --> 01:41:30,159 back and sharing it again but i got to 2907 01:41:33,109 --> 01:41:31,679 show you one more because like they had 2908 01:41:34,870 --> 01:41:33,119 a couple other ones at the bottom that 2909 01:41:36,790 --> 01:41:34,880 were posted by some other other people 2910 01:41:37,990 --> 01:41:36,800 and if they are to be believed to be 2911 01:41:40,550 --> 01:41:38,000 real 2912 01:41:41,750 --> 01:41:40,560 i mean this is amazing because 2913 01:41:42,709 --> 01:41:41,760 let's see as long as it popped up there 2914 01:41:43,910 --> 01:41:42,719 there we go 2915 01:41:46,229 --> 01:41:43,920 look at this one so this was the first 2916 01:41:47,990 --> 01:41:46,239 one we were looking at was this one and 2917 01:41:51,030 --> 01:41:48,000 then this one's this one's like during 2918 01:41:52,390 --> 01:41:51,040 the day i mean i don't it says that it's 2919 01:41:55,350 --> 01:41:52,400 it says it's the same but that's from 2920 01:41:59,030 --> 01:41:55,360 ufo i don't know maybe it's not the same 2921 01:42:00,709 --> 01:41:59,040 but this one the next one here is um 2922 01:42:02,310 --> 01:42:00,719 it's just outside of now it's not 2923 01:42:04,229 --> 01:42:02,320 nothing anything crazy it's just a 2924 01:42:05,510 --> 01:42:04,239 massive formation and this is where this 2925 01:42:07,430 --> 01:42:05,520 is when you need that friend who's like 2926 01:42:09,430 --> 01:42:07,440 they they study clouds that like that's 2927 01:42:11,189 --> 01:42:09,440 just their thing to be like explain this 2928 01:42:12,870 --> 01:42:11,199 like is it possible 2929 01:42:15,350 --> 01:42:12,880 and they'd be like oh yeah that's a trip 2930 01:42:17,990 --> 01:42:15,360 to something cloud 2931 01:42:19,590 --> 01:42:18,000 yeah you see those on the third equinox 2932 01:42:22,709 --> 01:42:19,600 of the 2933 01:42:26,550 --> 01:42:23,669 i don't know 2934 01:42:28,550 --> 01:42:26,560 exactly like i wish yep 2935 01:42:30,550 --> 01:42:28,560 i know we've talked about that in our 2936 01:42:32,470 --> 01:42:30,560 paranormal group before we wish we had 2937 01:42:34,550 --> 01:42:32,480 like all these specialists 2938 01:42:36,070 --> 01:42:34,560 involved so we could just go to them and 2939 01:42:38,310 --> 01:42:36,080 be like okay we've got this that's 2940 01:42:40,070 --> 01:42:38,320 happened tell us about it 2941 01:42:43,030 --> 01:42:40,080 unfortunately 2942 01:42:44,149 --> 01:42:43,040 that just can't be so but but doing this 2943 01:42:45,189 --> 01:42:44,159 i mean that's a part of it right you're 2944 01:42:46,870 --> 01:42:45,199 sharing this they're gonna have people 2945 01:42:48,070 --> 01:42:46,880 who listen to this and might resonate 2946 01:42:50,310 --> 01:42:48,080 with them and they reach out to you and 2947 01:42:52,709 --> 01:42:50,320 they got some information and you know 2948 01:42:54,550 --> 01:42:52,719 yeah absolutely 2949 01:42:56,709 --> 01:42:54,560 i was to say i look at like what two not 2950 01:42:59,270 --> 01:42:56,719 even quite two years ago 2951 01:43:00,229 --> 01:42:59,280 when i found joan ben and it's so crazy 2952 01:43:01,750 --> 01:43:00,239 now that i have people like you know 2953 01:43:03,270 --> 01:43:01,760 phil and mark who led to like meeting 2954 01:43:05,430 --> 01:43:03,280 you these are people that i would have 2955 01:43:07,270 --> 01:43:05,440 never met in my life had it not been for 2956 01:43:08,790 --> 01:43:07,280 this community and just podcasting in 2957 01:43:10,229 --> 01:43:08,800 general and it's just really podcasting 2958 01:43:11,830 --> 01:43:10,239 just people sharing their ideas like we 2959 01:43:13,669 --> 01:43:11,840 all have this little bit of information 2960 01:43:15,590 --> 01:43:13,679 and you share it you find other people 2961 01:43:16,870 --> 01:43:15,600 have similar interests and 2962 01:43:18,870 --> 01:43:16,880 to me personally i don't know how 2963 01:43:20,070 --> 01:43:18,880 anybody can go through life and not be 2964 01:43:21,830 --> 01:43:20,080 interested in this stuff because like 2965 01:43:24,310 --> 01:43:21,840 regular life kind of sucks sometimes and 2966 01:43:26,310 --> 01:43:24,320 it's really boring sometimes like i 2967 01:43:28,070 --> 01:43:26,320 always say that is boring it's really 2968 01:43:30,470 --> 01:43:28,080 boring 2969 01:43:32,550 --> 01:43:30,480 i've always said that i feel so sorry 2970 01:43:34,709 --> 01:43:32,560 for people who are not 2971 01:43:36,310 --> 01:43:34,719 believers or 2972 01:43:38,070 --> 01:43:36,320 they don't allow any kind of that kind 2973 01:43:40,870 --> 01:43:38,080 of magic in their lives how do they go 2974 01:43:42,550 --> 01:43:40,880 day to day just slugging along 2975 01:43:46,870 --> 01:43:42,560 with no 2976 01:43:48,149 --> 01:43:46,880 i don't i don't know even that's the 2977 01:43:52,629 --> 01:43:48,159 greatest 2978 01:43:54,709 --> 01:43:52,639 that you know we don't know everything 2979 01:43:56,390 --> 01:43:54,719 and you're constantly trying to learn 2980 01:43:59,350 --> 01:43:56,400 and figure it out but you know we're 2981 01:44:02,709 --> 01:43:59,360 never going to know everything exactly 2982 01:44:04,470 --> 01:44:02,719 and that's the fun of it it's the it's 2983 01:44:07,750 --> 01:44:04,480 it's the route there 2984 01:44:09,830 --> 01:44:07,760 that's the fun part so will i ever know 2985 01:44:11,510 --> 01:44:09,840 any of this stuff probably not but 2986 01:44:12,790 --> 01:44:11,520 getting there has been a whole heck of a 2987 01:44:13,669 --> 01:44:12,800 lot of fun 2988 01:44:15,910 --> 01:44:13,679 yeah 2989 01:44:18,070 --> 01:44:15,920 and it always leads to that next thing i 2990 01:44:20,870 --> 01:44:18,080 mean it never ever just 2991 01:44:22,709 --> 01:44:20,880 like you said we i think anybody 2992 01:44:24,870 --> 01:44:22,719 anybody who's truly researching it and 2993 01:44:26,629 --> 01:44:24,880 trying to just know recognizes that 2994 01:44:27,830 --> 01:44:26,639 we're never going to really know 2995 01:44:28,870 --> 01:44:27,840 but like you're saying it's the journey 2996 01:44:30,629 --> 01:44:28,880 because the people who all of a sudden 2997 01:44:31,669 --> 01:44:30,639 are like i know i got all the answers 2998 01:44:35,350 --> 01:44:31,679 man 2999 01:44:36,790 --> 01:44:35,360 i got him just subscribe for 200 a year 3000 01:44:38,149 --> 01:44:36,800 200 a month and i got all the answers 3001 01:44:39,830 --> 01:44:38,159 for you kind of deal 3002 01:44:42,550 --> 01:44:39,840 probably not like we're all just sharing 3003 01:44:44,229 --> 01:44:42,560 this these ideas um one thing i do want 3004 01:44:45,510 --> 01:44:44,239 to hit on uh because uh louis has 3005 01:44:46,709 --> 01:44:45,520 brought up a couple times tonight and i 3006 01:44:47,669 --> 01:44:46,719 keep forgetting to bring it up i should 3007 01:44:49,109 --> 01:44:47,679 have brought it up we were talking about 3008 01:44:50,870 --> 01:44:49,119 the the weird ritual that they did for 3009 01:44:52,390 --> 01:44:50,880 the the um 3010 01:44:55,189 --> 01:44:52,400 the tunnel there 3011 01:44:57,109 --> 01:44:55,199 what are your thoughts on shiva being 3012 01:44:59,430 --> 01:44:57,119 gifted from india 3013 01:45:01,189 --> 01:44:59,440 and of the three gods that she's tied in 3014 01:45:02,790 --> 01:45:01,199 with and what she represents i guess we 3015 01:45:04,390 --> 01:45:02,800 can kind of talk about that for a minute 3016 01:45:06,070 --> 01:45:04,400 if you're up for it in some of the 3017 01:45:09,350 --> 01:45:06,080 rituals that perhaps have taken place 3018 01:45:10,229 --> 01:45:09,360 that that way even um sure 3019 01:45:39,830 --> 01:45:10,239 i 3020 01:45:40,790 --> 01:45:39,840 um 3021 01:45:43,350 --> 01:45:40,800 and they 3022 01:45:45,510 --> 01:45:43,360 they ceremoniously stuck that giant 3023 01:45:46,629 --> 01:45:45,520 statue right smack dab in the front of 3024 01:45:52,470 --> 01:45:46,639 cern 3025 01:45:55,270 --> 01:45:52,480 artwork 3026 01:45:56,470 --> 01:45:55,280 all throughout it represented from all 3027 01:45:58,310 --> 01:45:56,480 the different 3028 01:46:01,430 --> 01:45:58,320 nations and the countries and stuff that 3029 01:46:04,709 --> 01:46:01,440 are involved with cern itself 3030 01:46:06,870 --> 01:46:04,719 um but this monstrosity 3031 01:46:09,510 --> 01:46:06,880 ceremoniously and there was a ceremony 3032 01:46:12,310 --> 01:46:09,520 got slammed sat down right in the very 3033 01:46:14,229 --> 01:46:12,320 front entrance of cern 3034 01:46:17,510 --> 01:46:14,239 um 3035 01:46:20,229 --> 01:46:17,520 and she's the destroyer of the universe 3036 01:46:21,990 --> 01:46:20,239 and i'd if you're not gonna if you don't 3037 01:46:23,510 --> 01:46:22,000 want people talking about conspiracy 3038 01:46:24,390 --> 01:46:23,520 theories i don't know why you would do 3039 01:46:26,070 --> 01:46:24,400 that 3040 01:46:27,030 --> 01:46:26,080 it does seem like of the three gods they 3041 01:46:28,790 --> 01:46:27,040 could have chosen i don't remember the 3042 01:46:30,310 --> 01:46:28,800 other two's names but that was her job 3043 01:46:32,390 --> 01:46:30,320 her purpose she destroyed so that the 3044 01:46:33,750 --> 01:46:32,400 one can recreate that's the whole 3045 01:46:35,350 --> 01:46:33,760 purpose of what she does she destroys 3046 01:46:37,270 --> 01:46:35,360 the current universe so that a new 3047 01:46:39,189 --> 01:46:37,280 universe can be rebirthed 3048 01:46:42,470 --> 01:46:39,199 from that destruction 3049 01:46:43,669 --> 01:46:42,480 so why that one and india's part two 3050 01:46:44,390 --> 01:46:43,679 like every once in a while i'm like all 3051 01:46:46,149 --> 01:46:44,400 right 3052 01:46:47,990 --> 01:46:46,159 if i was a super rich dude like if i had 3053 01:46:50,390 --> 01:46:48,000 a ton of power and money 3054 01:46:52,629 --> 01:46:50,400 i 100 would do some like pranks to mess 3055 01:46:54,310 --> 01:46:52,639 with people just to like screw with them 3056 01:46:55,109 --> 01:46:54,320 like what could i put out there 3057 01:46:56,709 --> 01:46:55,119 especially for like kind of 3058 01:46:57,830 --> 01:46:56,719 conspiratorial minded themselves and be 3059 01:46:59,910 --> 01:46:57,840 like what could i put out there to mess 3060 01:47:01,669 --> 01:46:59,920 with them and maybe that's the case best 3061 01:47:03,030 --> 01:47:01,679 case scenario someone had a great laugh 3062 01:47:04,790 --> 01:47:03,040 from it 3063 01:47:06,870 --> 01:47:04,800 but it's still weird 3064 01:47:08,709 --> 01:47:06,880 it's super weird 3065 01:47:10,870 --> 01:47:08,719 and then like you know because cern's 3066 01:47:13,750 --> 01:47:10,880 all about you know like tamping down the 3067 01:47:15,910 --> 01:47:13,760 naysayers and like we're not trying to 3068 01:47:17,750 --> 01:47:15,920 destroy the universe and we're not going 3069 01:47:19,990 --> 01:47:17,760 to do this and we're we're not trying to 3070 01:47:22,149 --> 01:47:20,000 do that chill out but here's this 3071 01:47:24,709 --> 01:47:22,159 gigantic statue of shiva the destroyer 3072 01:47:28,470 --> 01:47:24,719 we're just going to center right here 3073 01:47:30,229 --> 01:47:28,480 but we're not doing anything why i just 3074 01:47:31,270 --> 01:47:30,239 they could have picked so many different 3075 01:47:33,109 --> 01:47:31,280 things 3076 01:47:35,830 --> 01:47:33,119 to have put there 3077 01:47:36,950 --> 01:47:35,840 why did they it's it's almost as if 3078 01:47:38,790 --> 01:47:36,960 maybe 3079 01:47:41,109 --> 01:47:38,800 if it doesn't mean anything at all that 3080 01:47:43,910 --> 01:47:41,119 they're trying to goad people on just 3081 01:47:46,390 --> 01:47:43,920 for fun like you said like 3082 01:47:47,669 --> 01:47:46,400 that's the best case 3083 01:47:51,030 --> 01:47:47,679 yeah 3084 01:47:52,790 --> 01:47:51,040 they're poking the alligator is what 3085 01:47:54,629 --> 01:47:52,800 they're doing 3086 01:47:58,070 --> 01:47:54,639 and the other one i really wanted and 3087 01:48:00,390 --> 01:47:58,080 i'll be honest guys i had another statue 3088 01:48:02,790 --> 01:48:00,400 well first of all did you see the video 3089 01:48:04,790 --> 01:48:02,800 in relation to this statue that 3090 01:48:06,709 --> 01:48:04,800 supposedly came from within did you see 3091 01:48:08,950 --> 01:48:06,719 that one or hear about it yeah the one 3092 01:48:10,070 --> 01:48:08,960 where the the woman was uh 3093 01:48:11,750 --> 01:48:10,080 uh 3094 01:48:13,750 --> 01:48:11,760 knifed or whatever they came out in the 3095 01:48:15,350 --> 01:48:13,760 cloaks and yep 3096 01:48:16,790 --> 01:48:15,360 yeah uh 3097 01:48:18,709 --> 01:48:16,800 everybody should go and watch that one 3098 01:48:21,430 --> 01:48:18,719 that one's actually kind of entertaining 3099 01:48:22,390 --> 01:48:21,440 um it's obviously set up and very badly 3100 01:48:24,149 --> 01:48:22,400 yeah 3101 01:48:28,470 --> 01:48:24,159 the video 3102 01:48:30,709 --> 01:48:28,480 these people in the black robes come 3103 01:48:32,709 --> 01:48:30,719 walking in so apparently this guy was 3104 01:48:37,189 --> 01:48:32,719 just filming 3105 01:48:39,990 --> 01:48:37,199 for fun and just happened to catch it 3106 01:48:42,950 --> 01:48:40,000 um and then uh 3107 01:48:44,950 --> 01:48:42,960 these black fig these cloaked figures 3108 01:48:46,790 --> 01:48:44,960 come make a little circle around the 3109 01:48:49,669 --> 01:48:46,800 shiva statue and one of the cloak 3110 01:48:51,350 --> 01:48:49,679 figures throws the cloak off and it's 3111 01:48:53,109 --> 01:48:51,360 this naked woman 3112 01:48:55,350 --> 01:48:53,119 and she lays down on the ground and one 3113 01:48:58,070 --> 01:48:55,360 of the other cloaked people come over 3114 01:48:59,669 --> 01:48:58,080 with a knife and it looks like he 3115 01:49:01,430 --> 01:48:59,679 stabs her while she's laying on the 3116 01:49:03,270 --> 01:49:01,440 ground and then you hear the camera 3117 01:49:05,350 --> 01:49:03,280 person like 3118 01:49:07,669 --> 01:49:05,360 not scream but kind of yelp 3119 01:49:10,550 --> 01:49:07,679 and they go running and then you hear 3120 01:49:13,109 --> 01:49:10,560 him yelling oh [\h__\h] oh [\h__\h] oh [\h__\h] but 3121 01:49:15,430 --> 01:49:13,119 in a very poorly done way and then it 3122 01:49:17,109 --> 01:49:15,440 shuts off you could tell it wasn't a 3123 01:49:18,790 --> 01:49:17,119 legit like 3124 01:49:20,229 --> 01:49:18,800 i feel like when you're in shock there's 3125 01:49:22,070 --> 01:49:20,239 those real moments where we've all seen 3126 01:49:23,430 --> 01:49:22,080 the videos of people videoing 3127 01:49:25,910 --> 01:49:23,440 something terrible happening and it's 3128 01:49:27,109 --> 01:49:25,920 pretty genuine and like and i feel like 3129 01:49:28,629 --> 01:49:27,119 because the video ends like really 3130 01:49:31,669 --> 01:49:28,639 quickly too but even if it was just a 3131 01:49:33,589 --> 01:49:31,679 joke my only point to this would be 3132 01:49:35,750 --> 01:49:33,599 i would have to 3133 01:49:37,990 --> 01:49:35,760 assume right we all know what that can 3134 01:49:39,750 --> 01:49:38,000 do to both you and i but i would have to 3135 01:49:41,750 --> 01:49:39,760 assume that 3136 01:49:43,750 --> 01:49:41,760 again it's a top secret facility you 3137 01:49:45,510 --> 01:49:43,760 cannot just waltz into this place to to 3138 01:49:46,629 --> 01:49:45,520 do this little like 3139 01:49:49,510 --> 01:49:46,639 little ritual that you're gonna do for 3140 01:49:51,270 --> 01:49:49,520 the fun of it meaning more than likely i 3141 01:49:53,030 --> 01:49:51,280 would be if i was a bet man willing to 3142 01:49:54,790 --> 01:49:53,040 bet that those were actual scientists 3143 01:49:57,430 --> 01:49:54,800 one would have to think that did this 3144 01:49:58,950 --> 01:49:57,440 unless it was that opera group right 3145 01:50:00,390 --> 01:49:58,960 that did their dance video or maybe they 3146 01:50:01,589 --> 01:50:00,400 were doing some sort of representation 3147 01:50:03,030 --> 01:50:01,599 but if they did they never put on 3148 01:50:05,030 --> 01:50:03,040 youtube they never put up anything this 3149 01:50:07,350 --> 01:50:05,040 only came up once from them again this 3150 01:50:08,390 --> 01:50:07,360 is where it goes back to like all right 3151 01:50:12,310 --> 01:50:08,400 maybe 3152 01:50:13,910 --> 01:50:12,320 these these physicists are like pretty 3153 01:50:15,669 --> 01:50:13,920 chill and like this will be funny if we 3154 01:50:16,790 --> 01:50:15,679 do this yeah and that could be but at 3155 01:50:17,830 --> 01:50:16,800 the same time like guys you're dealing 3156 01:50:19,189 --> 01:50:17,840 with some really serious stuff over 3157 01:50:20,870 --> 01:50:19,199 there so like 3158 01:50:22,709 --> 01:50:20,880 maybe don't screw with us like a little 3159 01:50:25,030 --> 01:50:22,719 bit like take your job a little easier 3160 01:50:26,629 --> 01:50:25,040 like i mean i should like i definitely 3161 01:50:27,910 --> 01:50:26,639 joke around at my job and stuff but 3162 01:50:29,750 --> 01:50:27,920 still 3163 01:50:32,390 --> 01:50:29,760 well maybe it was some of those silly 3164 01:50:34,470 --> 01:50:32,400 interns that can't dance 3165 01:50:35,830 --> 01:50:34,480 100 they really can't dance i mean it 3166 01:50:38,550 --> 01:50:35,840 was bad 3167 01:50:40,950 --> 01:50:38,560 they did actually say i was reading up 3168 01:50:42,390 --> 01:50:40,960 on some of cern's reactions to that 3169 01:50:44,790 --> 01:50:42,400 video 3170 01:50:47,669 --> 01:50:44,800 and they did say over and over again 3171 01:50:48,950 --> 01:50:47,679 that where it was filmed from was inside 3172 01:50:50,870 --> 01:50:48,960 an office 3173 01:50:53,109 --> 01:50:50,880 at cern 3174 01:50:54,950 --> 01:50:53,119 so they were sure that yeah they they 3175 01:50:57,830 --> 01:50:54,960 said themselves they were sure it was an 3176 01:50:59,750 --> 01:50:57,840 inside job that some of the some of the 3177 01:51:02,310 --> 01:50:59,760 people there apparently got a little too 3178 01:51:05,189 --> 01:51:02,320 jokey that night and that it was going 3179 01:51:07,669 --> 01:51:05,199 to be investigated internally 3180 01:51:09,510 --> 01:51:07,679 so even they said we're pretty sure our 3181 01:51:11,430 --> 01:51:09,520 own people didn't 3182 01:51:12,790 --> 01:51:11,440 somebody got slapped someone someone got 3183 01:51:16,070 --> 01:51:12,800 in trouble probably 3184 01:51:18,709 --> 01:51:16,080 yeah i'm sure whoever's office that was 3185 01:51:21,350 --> 01:51:18,719 was probably in trouble 3186 01:51:23,350 --> 01:51:21,360 yeah no doubt yeah but that one's a 3187 01:51:24,709 --> 01:51:23,360 silly video too if y'all want to go 3188 01:51:26,950 --> 01:51:24,719 watch something 3189 01:51:29,830 --> 01:51:26,960 funny it's pretty short 3190 01:51:31,990 --> 01:51:29,840 this is an interesting one um 3191 01:51:33,350 --> 01:51:32,000 this was uh i noticed one of the 3192 01:51:36,030 --> 01:51:33,360 comments here was that they wanted me to 3193 01:51:37,350 --> 01:51:36,040 pull up the the the symbol for 3194 01:51:38,790 --> 01:51:37,360 [Music] 3195 01:51:41,189 --> 01:51:38,800 oh 3196 01:51:43,510 --> 01:51:41,199 are people grasping are we are we over 3197 01:51:45,589 --> 01:51:43,520 doing it with the six six thing are we 3198 01:51:47,750 --> 01:51:45,599 are we reading too much into it 3199 01:51:48,790 --> 01:51:47,760 i don't know again to each to each their 3200 01:51:50,629 --> 01:51:48,800 own you know some people think they're 3201 01:51:52,550 --> 01:51:50,639 very serious and some people don't but 3202 01:51:54,550 --> 01:51:52,560 this is this is their symbol i mean it's 3203 01:51:56,790 --> 01:51:54,560 not hidden it looks like it's 3204 01:51:59,109 --> 01:51:56,800 it's kind of all over the place like i 3205 01:52:01,350 --> 01:51:59,119 actually i know the story on how they 3206 01:52:03,910 --> 01:52:01,360 got this logo okay 3207 01:52:05,910 --> 01:52:03,920 so originally 3208 01:52:08,790 --> 01:52:05,920 the logo was supposed to be a 3209 01:52:10,149 --> 01:52:08,800 representation of the collider 3210 01:52:11,910 --> 01:52:10,159 okay that makes sense like in this 3211 01:52:13,669 --> 01:52:11,920 picture where it's it's the 3212 01:52:15,270 --> 01:52:13,679 the intertwining essentially would that 3213 01:52:19,430 --> 01:52:15,280 be kind of well yeah yeah that's 3214 01:52:21,750 --> 01:52:19,440 supposed to be a a proton an atom 3215 01:52:23,350 --> 01:52:21,760 um so 3216 01:52:25,030 --> 01:52:23,360 the represent 3217 01:52:26,950 --> 01:52:25,040 i can't remember where i saw that i tell 3218 01:52:29,109 --> 01:52:26,960 you to go show the picture but the 3219 01:52:31,109 --> 01:52:29,119 original logo was literally it looked 3220 01:52:32,870 --> 01:52:31,119 like the collider so it was a circle in 3221 01:52:35,589 --> 01:52:32,880 the middle and then there was little 3222 01:52:38,470 --> 01:52:35,599 offshoots coming off of it almost like a 3223 01:52:40,470 --> 01:52:38,480 little kid's son would look like okay 3224 01:52:42,550 --> 01:52:40,480 but the problem was is just just the 3225 01:52:44,709 --> 01:52:42,560 kind of the way that it was set up it 3226 01:52:46,070 --> 01:52:44,719 looked too much like a black hole they 3227 01:52:47,510 --> 01:52:46,080 thought 3228 01:52:49,109 --> 01:52:47,520 and they didn't want to put that out 3229 01:52:50,229 --> 01:52:49,119 there 3230 01:52:51,589 --> 01:52:50,239 that's what they said we were like we 3231 01:52:53,350 --> 01:52:51,599 didn't want to put a black hole looking 3232 01:52:55,350 --> 01:52:53,360 thing out there we don't want that on 3233 01:52:58,390 --> 01:52:55,360 our knees 3234 01:53:00,470 --> 01:52:58,400 well see that's the ridiculous thing so 3235 01:53:02,470 --> 01:53:00,480 they went back and they decided well 3236 01:53:06,229 --> 01:53:02,480 they still wanted it to represent the 3237 01:53:08,390 --> 01:53:06,239 collider and the proton strings so what 3238 01:53:10,470 --> 01:53:08,400 they did was they took the three rings 3239 01:53:13,270 --> 01:53:10,480 that should represent the collider and 3240 01:53:14,310 --> 01:53:13,280 they offset them from themselves just a 3241 01:53:15,830 --> 01:53:14,320 little bit 3242 01:53:18,070 --> 01:53:15,840 the tails 3243 01:53:19,669 --> 01:53:18,080 represent the collider 3244 01:53:21,750 --> 01:53:19,679 uh i don't know what those things are 3245 01:53:24,310 --> 01:53:21,760 called but you know the little offshoots 3246 01:53:27,510 --> 01:53:24,320 yeah yeah i should and they also 3247 01:53:29,669 --> 01:53:27,520 represent the tails of the protons 3248 01:53:31,750 --> 01:53:29,679 so they let them curve just a little bit 3249 01:53:33,589 --> 01:53:31,760 and they offset them 3250 01:53:35,589 --> 01:53:33,599 so that they would sit like that and 3251 01:53:37,910 --> 01:53:35,599 then they left one more tail for a 3252 01:53:38,790 --> 01:53:37,920 proton there so then you've got that 3253 01:53:41,270 --> 01:53:38,800 well 3254 01:53:43,030 --> 01:53:41,280 i can't imagine they were so upset 3255 01:53:45,669 --> 01:53:43,040 because the original one looked like a 3256 01:53:48,229 --> 01:53:45,679 black hole well now it looks like 666 it 3257 01:53:49,510 --> 01:53:48,239 really does 3258 01:53:50,629 --> 01:53:49,520 okay so what i'm going to do is i'm 3259 01:53:51,990 --> 01:53:50,639 going to share one more photo because 3260 01:53:53,189 --> 01:53:52,000 this will give great i mean you did a 3261 01:53:56,229 --> 01:53:53,199 great job anyways but for anybody who 3262 01:53:57,510 --> 01:53:56,239 might be uh looking at it um i'm going 3263 01:53:58,629 --> 01:53:57,520 to share one more image because this 3264 01:54:00,310 --> 01:53:58,639 kind of gives an idea of what you're 3265 01:54:02,149 --> 01:54:00,320 talking about for is 3266 01:54:03,990 --> 01:54:02,159 how i mean and again what if that is 3267 01:54:05,669 --> 01:54:04,000 what they were doing like what if they 3268 01:54:06,470 --> 01:54:05,679 were literally just trying to do it that 3269 01:54:07,750 --> 01:54:06,480 way 3270 01:54:10,149 --> 01:54:07,760 and 3271 01:54:11,350 --> 01:54:10,159 it ended up being 666 i don't know yeah 3272 01:54:12,870 --> 01:54:11,360 this is essentially what you're talking 3273 01:54:14,390 --> 01:54:12,880 about here right because like if you 3274 01:54:15,589 --> 01:54:14,400 look into it and there's even more down 3275 01:54:17,189 --> 01:54:15,599 here and they were really small but 3276 01:54:19,270 --> 01:54:17,199 essentially because they kept making 3277 01:54:21,990 --> 01:54:19,280 each one and that's the symbolism plus 3278 01:54:24,950 --> 01:54:22,000 like you explained very elegantly but 3279 01:54:27,669 --> 01:54:24,960 that i mean i guess i i'm i get it 3280 01:54:29,350 --> 01:54:27,679 still weird but i get it if that's it i 3281 01:54:32,629 --> 01:54:29,360 i think they just fudged up their 3282 01:54:33,990 --> 01:54:32,639 previous fudge is what they did 3283 01:54:35,669 --> 01:54:34,000 it's like no matter what they were gonna 3284 01:54:37,430 --> 01:54:35,679 do they were gonna fudge it up so you 3285 01:54:40,390 --> 01:54:37,440 might as well just leave it now they've 3286 01:54:42,070 --> 01:54:40,400 got 666 or it could just be whatever 3287 01:54:43,990 --> 01:54:42,080 they came up with somebody was going to 3288 01:54:45,510 --> 01:54:44,000 see something in it 3289 01:54:46,629 --> 01:54:45,520 yeah you know they're going to see what 3290 01:54:48,629 --> 01:54:46,639 they want to see 3291 01:54:50,470 --> 01:54:48,639 correct yeah but you know like this is a 3292 01:54:52,629 --> 01:54:50,480 good point that uh that sunsaver brings 3293 01:54:54,390 --> 01:54:52,639 up here um why would the number 66 be 3294 01:54:55,830 --> 01:54:54,400 plastered all over our kids cartoons and 3295 01:54:58,629 --> 01:54:55,840 cartoon network 3296 01:55:00,470 --> 01:54:58,639 i was like uh then glad my kids are not 3297 01:55:02,229 --> 01:55:00,480 being brainwashed by this crap true i 3298 01:55:04,390 --> 01:55:02,239 believe that even i can't remember which 3299 01:55:06,149 --> 01:55:04,400 disney movie was walt disney had that 3300 01:55:07,669 --> 01:55:06,159 and and quite a few of his and it's 3301 01:55:08,709 --> 01:55:07,679 pretty plain as day once it's pointed 3302 01:55:09,589 --> 01:55:08,719 out like i mean initially when you're 3303 01:55:10,629 --> 01:55:09,599 going through stuff you're like yeah 3304 01:55:11,669 --> 01:55:10,639 whatever 3305 01:55:12,870 --> 01:55:11,679 and this is where you kind of need 3306 01:55:14,709 --> 01:55:12,880 someone i know that some people in the 3307 01:55:16,229 --> 01:55:14,719 chat and whatever in the group 3308 01:55:18,149 --> 01:55:16,239 may not you know we're a collective 3309 01:55:20,070 --> 01:55:18,159 group of different thinking free people 3310 01:55:21,189 --> 01:55:20,080 and we all got different opinions but 3311 01:55:22,790 --> 01:55:21,199 that's where you almost need someone who 3312 01:55:23,669 --> 01:55:22,800 is occult minded like to come out and 3313 01:55:24,629 --> 01:55:23,679 kind of talk about this stuff because 3314 01:55:26,310 --> 01:55:24,639 sometimes if we just don't have an 3315 01:55:27,990 --> 01:55:26,320 understanding of it 3316 01:55:30,229 --> 01:55:28,000 now granted with the 666 thing it's 3317 01:55:33,030 --> 01:55:30,239 pretty straightforward and whatever but 3318 01:55:34,470 --> 01:55:33,040 sometimes some groups use that more as 3319 01:55:36,470 --> 01:55:34,480 like 3320 01:55:38,229 --> 01:55:36,480 something that you might put up 3321 01:55:39,510 --> 01:55:38,239 i think lynn did a great job explaining 3322 01:55:41,030 --> 01:55:39,520 this one time she was down here at joan 3323 01:55:42,470 --> 01:55:41,040 ben and she was talking about how 3324 01:55:45,030 --> 01:55:42,480 there's different occult things that are 3325 01:55:45,990 --> 01:55:45,040 used that freak most every average 3326 01:55:47,430 --> 01:55:46,000 people out once they hear the word 3327 01:55:48,470 --> 01:55:47,440 occult and they're like oh yeah for me 3328 01:55:49,830 --> 01:55:48,480 that's like you know how you put up a 3329 01:55:51,910 --> 01:55:49,840 picture of your family to make you feel 3330 01:55:54,070 --> 01:55:51,920 better at work or like a flower like i 3331 01:55:55,270 --> 01:55:54,080 use this stuff around me to make me feel 3332 01:55:57,030 --> 01:55:55,280 comfortable 3333 01:55:58,790 --> 01:55:57,040 again we got to rece everybody's got 3334 01:56:00,550 --> 01:55:58,800 their own walks of life but i do think 3335 01:56:02,390 --> 01:56:00,560 it sometimes interesting that like okay 3336 01:56:05,030 --> 01:56:02,400 some of it could just be that it's lack 3337 01:56:06,950 --> 01:56:05,040 of understanding but then sometimes 3338 01:56:08,790 --> 01:56:06,960 maybe it's not maybe it's 3339 01:56:11,350 --> 01:56:08,800 maybe it's a little bit more 3340 01:56:13,350 --> 01:56:11,360 um and it's very weird that that is the 3341 01:56:14,470 --> 01:56:13,360 logo for your company 3342 01:56:17,030 --> 01:56:14,480 for everything 3343 01:56:18,870 --> 01:56:17,040 and you you flat out said we are trying 3344 01:56:20,470 --> 01:56:18,880 to open these portals 3345 01:56:23,430 --> 01:56:20,480 um 3346 01:56:25,430 --> 01:56:23,440 little bit but what were your thoughts 3347 01:56:27,030 --> 01:56:25,440 like if we go into 3348 01:56:29,030 --> 01:56:27,040 again everybody you got your own way of 3349 01:56:31,030 --> 01:56:29,040 believing that's totally fine but if we 3350 01:56:32,709 --> 01:56:31,040 use the bible as say uh whether you 3351 01:56:34,149 --> 01:56:32,719 believe it as a whole or as a great 3352 01:56:35,189 --> 01:56:34,159 history piece whatever however you might 3353 01:56:36,470 --> 01:56:35,199 look at it 3354 01:56:39,109 --> 01:56:36,480 in the book of revelations where it 3355 01:56:41,030 --> 01:56:39,119 talks about um and i can't read exact 3356 01:56:43,350 --> 01:56:41,040 terminology but something along the 3357 01:56:46,149 --> 01:56:43,360 lines of the god apollo rising from the 3358 01:56:47,990 --> 01:56:46,159 abyss uh to be the destroyer do you 3359 01:56:49,189 --> 01:56:48,000 think there's any weird tie to that 3360 01:56:51,030 --> 01:56:49,199 since how would somebody seen that 3361 01:56:52,310 --> 01:56:51,040 vision at that time describe it if we 3362 01:56:53,669 --> 01:56:52,320 know they're down on the ground that's 3363 01:56:56,629 --> 01:56:53,679 currently where they're at 3364 01:56:58,870 --> 01:56:56,639 it's really close to the original temple 3365 01:57:00,550 --> 01:56:58,880 of uh apollo 3366 01:57:02,070 --> 01:57:00,560 do you think there's any correlation 3367 01:57:03,350 --> 01:57:02,080 there i mean is that is that too far of 3368 01:57:05,270 --> 01:57:03,360 a reach are we just stretching for 3369 01:57:07,669 --> 01:57:05,280 something that doesn't exist 3370 01:57:09,910 --> 01:57:07,679 a correlation to what exactly what are 3371 01:57:11,589 --> 01:57:09,920 you oh so in the book of revelations 3372 01:57:13,109 --> 01:57:11,599 indicating that that the god apollo well 3373 01:57:14,790 --> 01:57:13,119 that there would be the rise of apollo 3374 01:57:16,229 --> 01:57:14,800 from the abyss and it would destroy the 3375 01:57:19,750 --> 01:57:16,239 earth it would be part of the end days 3376 01:57:21,910 --> 01:57:19,760 so part of the that process oh 3377 01:57:25,750 --> 01:57:21,920 portals have been around long before 3378 01:57:27,750 --> 01:57:25,760 biblical times i think 3379 01:57:31,109 --> 01:57:27,760 i myself 3380 01:57:33,830 --> 01:57:31,119 i'm not really big on the bible because 3381 01:57:35,270 --> 01:57:33,840 to me it was written by man and 3382 01:57:36,550 --> 01:57:35,280 the history was often written by the 3383 01:57:39,109 --> 01:57:36,560 victors 3384 01:57:42,310 --> 01:57:39,119 or whoever wanted to be the victor um so 3385 01:57:44,229 --> 01:57:42,320 i don't i don't lend a whole lot um 3386 01:57:45,350 --> 01:57:44,239 to what it says in the bible historical 3387 01:57:47,270 --> 01:57:45,360 wise but 3388 01:57:49,030 --> 01:57:47,280 there is a lot in the bible that lends 3389 01:57:52,149 --> 01:57:49,040 to um 3390 01:57:52,870 --> 01:57:52,159 well like you said um portals and ufos 3391 01:57:53,669 --> 01:57:52,880 and 3392 01:57:55,350 --> 01:57:53,679 um 3393 01:57:57,910 --> 01:57:55,360 this stuff's been around for a long long 3394 01:58:00,709 --> 01:57:57,920 time and that's another reason i've told 3395 01:58:02,950 --> 01:58:00,719 you i kind of i'm a big believer in the 3396 01:58:05,510 --> 01:58:02,960 multiverse 3397 01:58:09,270 --> 01:58:05,520 and how that all works in portals and uh 3398 01:58:11,109 --> 01:58:09,280 wormholes and things like that um so 3399 01:58:13,189 --> 01:58:11,119 yeah i absolutely believe and you know 3400 01:58:15,830 --> 01:58:13,199 we were talking earlier about the the 3401 01:58:16,870 --> 01:58:15,840 lab in france that's on top of the old 3402 01:58:17,669 --> 01:58:16,880 temple 3403 01:58:19,430 --> 01:58:17,679 yeah 3404 01:58:21,589 --> 01:58:19,440 and the people there are so scared of it 3405 01:58:22,790 --> 01:58:21,599 they wouldn't even farm the land then 3406 01:58:24,229 --> 01:58:22,800 it's not like they have a whole lot of 3407 01:58:26,070 --> 01:58:24,239 land over there 3408 01:58:27,910 --> 01:58:26,080 so to really 3409 01:58:28,870 --> 01:58:27,920 walk away from a piece of property like 3410 01:58:30,550 --> 01:58:28,880 that 3411 01:58:32,229 --> 01:58:30,560 has got to say something 3412 01:58:34,229 --> 01:58:32,239 right i mean it's kind of the equivalent 3413 01:58:35,510 --> 01:58:34,239 now and i'm not well you would know 3414 01:58:36,790 --> 01:58:35,520 actually quite a bit about this because 3415 01:58:39,270 --> 01:58:36,800 you you have a lot of 3416 01:58:41,109 --> 01:58:39,280 native american and you correct yeah 3417 01:58:43,109 --> 01:58:41,119 so you i don't know 3418 01:58:44,310 --> 01:58:43,119 oh man this is ways from you but i'm 3419 01:58:46,229 --> 01:58:44,320 sure you know the history behind it but 3420 01:58:48,790 --> 01:58:46,239 you know you look at like the uh 3421 01:58:50,550 --> 01:58:48,800 oh my god i just had a brain fart 3422 01:58:52,310 --> 01:58:50,560 it's it's the black the black hit or the 3423 01:58:55,270 --> 01:58:52,320 black mountain the black hills i'm 3424 01:58:56,550 --> 01:58:55,280 saying that wrong is it the black hills 3425 01:58:57,990 --> 01:58:56,560 i'm saying that wrong is the black hills 3426 01:58:59,669 --> 01:58:58,000 or black mountains where they put mount 3427 01:59:01,109 --> 01:58:59,679 rushmore essentially where that was 3428 01:59:02,790 --> 01:59:01,119 sacred ground that was respected and 3429 01:59:04,149 --> 01:59:02,800 meant to be kind of left alone or there 3430 01:59:05,109 --> 01:59:04,159 you find us all around the world but 3431 01:59:08,229 --> 01:59:05,119 there's these different areas where 3432 01:59:09,990 --> 01:59:08,239 people are like listen we don't go there 3433 01:59:12,390 --> 01:59:10,000 whether it's superstition or whether 3434 01:59:14,310 --> 01:59:12,400 there's more to that one has to ask you 3435 01:59:15,669 --> 01:59:14,320 know like when you look at some of the 3436 01:59:17,430 --> 01:59:15,679 it's going down a different route but 3437 01:59:19,669 --> 01:59:17,440 like the 4-1-1 and the missing 4-1-1 3438 01:59:22,149 --> 01:59:19,679 stuff it's weird that you have these 3439 01:59:24,550 --> 01:59:22,159 consistent positions where people go 3440 01:59:26,709 --> 01:59:24,560 missing in the same situations a lot of 3441 01:59:27,669 --> 01:59:26,719 times and um 3442 01:59:29,189 --> 01:59:27,679 again like you're saying with this 3443 01:59:31,189 --> 01:59:29,199 ancient knowledge as far as 3444 01:59:33,109 --> 01:59:31,199 did people know something was up i mean 3445 01:59:35,589 --> 01:59:33,119 i i truly believe there's positions in 3446 01:59:37,589 --> 01:59:35,599 the earth that have a higher 3447 01:59:39,510 --> 01:59:37,599 i don't know maybe the 3448 01:59:41,669 --> 01:59:39,520 i don't say like a dimensional 3449 01:59:43,189 --> 01:59:41,679 shift but something's up there they're 3450 01:59:44,870 --> 01:59:43,199 portals essentially in the most simple 3451 01:59:46,550 --> 01:59:44,880 term that i can think of saying it that 3452 01:59:48,070 --> 01:59:46,560 seems to have an ability to reach into 3453 01:59:50,470 --> 01:59:48,080 something a little bit more naturally 3454 01:59:53,350 --> 01:59:50,480 even without anything being there 3455 01:59:54,790 --> 01:59:53,360 oh absolutely um that's one of the 3456 01:59:57,350 --> 01:59:54,800 things that 3457 01:59:59,910 --> 01:59:57,360 me and my group have been working on 3458 02:00:02,629 --> 01:59:59,920 we've been literally just 3459 02:00:05,270 --> 02:00:02,639 compiling information on areas that are 3460 02:00:09,109 --> 02:00:05,280 thin you know thin 3461 02:00:11,030 --> 02:00:09,119 things creep through things disappear 3462 02:00:12,709 --> 02:00:11,040 i just spoke about that 3463 02:00:15,990 --> 02:00:12,719 when i was with you the last time about 3464 02:00:17,910 --> 02:00:16,000 our disappearing reappearing houses 3465 02:00:20,070 --> 02:00:17,920 yeah um 3466 02:00:20,950 --> 02:00:20,080 some of that for people i'm sorry for 3467 02:00:23,030 --> 02:00:20,960 people in the chat that might want to 3468 02:00:24,229 --> 02:00:23,040 know about stuff she has a lot more is 3469 02:00:25,830 --> 02:00:24,239 we'll probably wrap up here pretty soon 3470 02:00:27,750 --> 02:00:25,840 with uh cern and there's a couple of 3471 02:00:29,350 --> 02:00:27,760 great things we can have you like talk 3472 02:00:31,030 --> 02:00:29,360 about just in your own experience so 3473 02:00:31,910 --> 02:00:31,040 sorry to interrupt you but if anybody's 3474 02:00:33,270 --> 02:00:31,920 interested in some of that because you 3475 02:00:34,629 --> 02:00:33,280 have some crazy stories i would love to 3476 02:00:36,310 --> 02:00:34,639 share 3477 02:00:37,910 --> 02:00:36,320 i do have some crazy stories in fact i 3478 02:00:40,870 --> 02:00:37,920 had something happen to me just a couple 3479 02:00:41,830 --> 02:00:40,880 weeks ago i can tell you about 3480 02:00:45,030 --> 02:00:41,840 that just 3481 02:00:47,750 --> 02:00:45,040 it still boggles my mind um but yeah 3482 02:00:50,629 --> 02:00:47,760 i absolutely believe there are places on 3483 02:00:53,350 --> 02:00:50,639 this earth that are 3484 02:00:55,430 --> 02:00:53,360 portal-like or thin 3485 02:00:57,830 --> 02:00:55,440 we found that it has a whole lot to do 3486 02:00:59,830 --> 02:00:57,840 with the ley lines and the natural 3487 02:01:02,470 --> 02:00:59,840 magnetic spots 3488 02:01:06,870 --> 02:01:02,480 on the earth which the 3489 02:01:09,750 --> 02:01:06,880 uh the us army and navy have plotted 3490 02:01:12,950 --> 02:01:09,760 vigorously there are maps 3491 02:01:15,109 --> 02:01:12,960 made of all of these blighted spots 3492 02:01:17,589 --> 02:01:15,119 across the world where the magnetic 3493 02:01:19,669 --> 02:01:17,599 force is so bad that it messes with the 3494 02:01:21,910 --> 02:01:19,679 instruments on the airplanes 3495 02:01:24,790 --> 02:01:21,920 um and those spots happen to be the hot 3496 02:01:26,629 --> 02:01:24,800 spots for bigfoot 3497 02:01:27,990 --> 02:01:26,639 if you want to get to start going a 3498 02:01:30,070 --> 02:01:28,000 little crazy 3499 02:01:32,709 --> 02:01:30,080 um so a lot of people who think that 3500 02:01:35,430 --> 02:01:32,719 bigfoot are interdimensional creatures 3501 02:01:37,109 --> 02:01:35,440 kind of have a whole lot um 3502 02:01:38,390 --> 02:01:37,119 on that route 3503 02:01:40,550 --> 02:01:38,400 um 3504 02:01:43,189 --> 02:01:40,560 but yeah and the and i believe that the 3505 02:01:45,510 --> 02:01:43,199 the a lot of the american indian tribes 3506 02:01:47,990 --> 02:01:45,520 had a real handhold 3507 02:01:51,589 --> 02:01:48,000 on a lot of those spots um 3508 02:01:53,350 --> 02:01:51,599 because they had access to 3509 02:01:54,310 --> 02:01:53,360 other things that we don't have access 3510 02:01:57,350 --> 02:01:54,320 to 3511 02:01:58,629 --> 02:01:57,360 other beings other 3512 02:02:00,790 --> 02:01:58,639 um i think they were a little bit more 3513 02:02:02,470 --> 02:02:00,800 open to it and of course well the tribes 3514 02:02:04,709 --> 02:02:02,480 that were here are 3515 02:02:06,229 --> 02:02:04,719 much much older um 3516 02:02:08,550 --> 02:02:06,239 than uh 3517 02:02:10,310 --> 02:02:08,560 the people that came over so 3518 02:02:12,310 --> 02:02:10,320 we don't know what was here too with 3519 02:02:15,990 --> 02:02:12,320 them um 3520 02:02:17,910 --> 02:02:16,000 a lot of crazy uh cave paintings and uh 3521 02:02:19,990 --> 02:02:17,920 stone carvings and stuff that kind of 3522 02:02:21,589 --> 02:02:20,000 lend to this 3523 02:02:22,709 --> 02:02:21,599 who was this weird other person that was 3524 02:02:24,709 --> 02:02:22,719 here and then you start getting into the 3525 02:02:26,229 --> 02:02:24,719 ancient aliens and 3526 02:02:28,070 --> 02:02:26,239 but there's something to that i mean 3527 02:02:29,510 --> 02:02:28,080 this is actually and shout out to uh in 3528 02:02:31,030 --> 02:02:29,520 the chat right now the michigan ufo 3529 02:02:32,310 --> 02:02:31,040 sightings and paranormal encounters um 3530 02:02:34,790 --> 02:02:32,320 him and his wife have a great podcast 3531 02:02:35,830 --> 02:02:34,800 over there wayne uh if anybody would 3532 02:02:36,550 --> 02:02:35,840 want to check that i know ben said he 3533 02:02:38,790 --> 02:02:36,560 was gonna check it out so i don't think 3534 02:02:40,390 --> 02:02:38,800 he might be mentioning them but they 3535 02:02:42,390 --> 02:02:40,400 talk about particularly he's fascinated 3536 02:02:46,229 --> 02:02:42,400 with with ancient egypt and all the 3537 02:02:47,750 --> 02:02:46,239 ancient structures and and um he's in 3538 02:02:49,189 --> 02:02:47,760 the belief system i think i'm pretty 3539 02:02:51,270 --> 02:02:49,199 right through with him is that whatever 3540 02:02:53,430 --> 02:02:51,280 we've been taught is wrong like we can 3541 02:02:55,270 --> 02:02:53,440 clearly now see that the story that 3542 02:02:56,629 --> 02:02:55,280 we're trying to be sold is is not how it 3543 02:02:57,910 --> 02:02:56,639 could it could not have happened that 3544 02:02:59,030 --> 02:02:57,920 way just from an archaeological 3545 02:03:00,470 --> 02:02:59,040 standpoint 3546 02:03:02,070 --> 02:03:00,480 and then i think 3547 02:03:03,830 --> 02:03:02,080 we are kind of coming to the consensus 3548 02:03:05,030 --> 02:03:03,840 and agree that that's true but where i 3549 02:03:07,270 --> 02:03:05,040 think something might have happened that 3550 02:03:08,870 --> 02:03:07,280 we're not recognizing is that during the 3551 02:03:11,750 --> 02:03:08,880 late 1700s 3552 02:03:14,149 --> 02:03:11,760 early 1800s there seems to be some mass 3553 02:03:16,790 --> 02:03:14,159 wiping of of ancient knowledge that was 3554 02:03:18,709 --> 02:03:16,800 currently going on here um 3555 02:03:20,310 --> 02:03:18,719 and i think that that for whatever 3556 02:03:22,070 --> 02:03:20,320 reason kind of got scrubbed and it's 3557 02:03:23,589 --> 02:03:22,080 just it's gone it only takes two or 3558 02:03:25,510 --> 02:03:23,599 three generations before that that 3559 02:03:27,270 --> 02:03:25,520 knowledge is just gone you know if it's 3560 02:03:28,790 --> 02:03:27,280 word of mouth especially and was not 3561 02:03:30,870 --> 02:03:28,800 handed down and written and we now know 3562 02:03:32,390 --> 02:03:30,880 with the education system and how that 3563 02:03:33,669 --> 02:03:32,400 went i mean that's 3564 02:03:34,709 --> 02:03:33,679 hats off to any of our educators 3565 02:03:36,149 --> 02:03:34,719 actually matter of fact wayne and his 3566 02:03:39,350 --> 02:03:36,159 wife they're both in educational system 3567 02:03:40,950 --> 02:03:39,360 and that's a tough job right now because 3568 02:03:44,070 --> 02:03:40,960 how does one 3569 02:03:45,510 --> 02:03:44,080 wrestle with your belief system versus a 3570 02:03:47,270 --> 02:03:45,520 curriculum and then what you're being 3571 02:03:49,109 --> 02:03:47,280 forced to teach you know that's a that's 3572 02:03:50,790 --> 02:03:49,119 a lot to deal with but i do think that 3573 02:03:52,629 --> 02:03:50,800 you're hitting on a great point with i 3574 02:03:55,030 --> 02:03:52,639 think things here are a lot more ancient 3575 02:03:56,870 --> 02:03:55,040 than what we realize and um oh man i 3576 02:03:58,629 --> 02:03:56,880 always mix this up ben please don't be 3577 02:03:59,990 --> 02:03:58,639 mad at me maybe you'll know too i always 3578 02:04:01,350 --> 02:04:00,000 mix up these two gentlemen they're both 3579 02:04:03,030 --> 02:04:01,360 fascinating 3580 02:04:05,669 --> 02:04:03,040 there's graham hancock and then there's 3581 02:04:07,189 --> 02:04:05,679 grant grant cameron and i believe it's 3582 02:04:09,270 --> 02:04:07,199 graham hancock who believes in the 3583 02:04:11,350 --> 02:04:09,280 america before who talks about this 3584 02:04:13,350 --> 02:04:11,360 about there is much evidence that there 3585 02:04:15,669 --> 02:04:13,360 were some very advanced civilizations 3586 02:04:18,069 --> 02:04:15,679 here in the united states that 3587 02:04:20,149 --> 02:04:18,079 accomplished a lot more than we realized 3588 02:04:22,790 --> 02:04:20,159 but yet we're being told because of the 3589 02:04:25,189 --> 02:04:22,800 genocide and what took place that way 3590 02:04:26,629 --> 02:04:25,199 it's all gone you know it's at this 3591 02:04:29,910 --> 02:04:26,639 point it's just 3592 02:04:31,830 --> 02:04:29,920 either stories have been passed on in uh 3593 02:04:33,109 --> 02:04:31,840 family lineage or whatever a little bit 3594 02:04:35,270 --> 02:04:33,119 of evidence might be left for us to 3595 02:04:37,189 --> 02:04:35,280 actually physically touch and i do think 3596 02:04:39,589 --> 02:04:37,199 you're right in the fact that 3597 02:04:41,109 --> 02:04:39,599 it's just we're almost that that 3598 02:04:43,430 --> 02:04:41,119 and he's coined the term you know the 3599 02:04:45,589 --> 02:04:43,440 species with mass uh amnesia i mean 3600 02:04:46,790 --> 02:04:45,599 we're our species with amnesia and i i 3601 02:04:48,709 --> 02:04:46,800 truly think 3602 02:04:49,750 --> 02:04:48,719 oh graham hancock did i get it right 3603 02:04:51,589 --> 02:04:49,760 okay 3604 02:04:53,030 --> 02:04:51,599 dang it i always stress out about it 3605 02:04:54,229 --> 02:04:53,040 because i ben always gives me a crack 3606 02:04:56,149 --> 02:04:54,239 and i totally said the wrong name the 3607 02:04:57,990 --> 02:04:56,159 one time i was like every time because i 3608 02:04:59,430 --> 02:04:58,000 love them they're both so good and for 3609 02:05:00,870 --> 02:04:59,440 whatever reason my special little brain 3610 02:05:02,470 --> 02:05:00,880 like mixes their names and i get it 3611 02:05:04,709 --> 02:05:02,480 wrong every time 3612 02:05:06,149 --> 02:05:04,719 but um yeah so anyways i'm sorry for 3613 02:05:07,109 --> 02:05:06,159 rambling there for a second but yeah 3614 02:05:08,390 --> 02:05:07,119 what are your thoughts on it do you 3615 02:05:10,149 --> 02:05:08,400 think there's a lot more even here where 3616 02:05:11,510 --> 02:05:10,159 we live currently where everybody you 3617 02:05:12,790 --> 02:05:11,520 know lives we brought up ley lines a 3618 02:05:14,470 --> 02:05:12,800 couple minutes ago 3619 02:05:17,350 --> 02:05:14,480 do you think there's this mass energy of 3620 02:05:18,870 --> 02:05:17,360 the earth itself it is a living being 3621 02:05:20,390 --> 02:05:18,880 maybe some don't believe that but that's 3622 02:05:22,310 --> 02:05:20,400 totally fine but in a sense it is a 3623 02:05:24,069 --> 02:05:22,320 living organism and it's energy and it's 3624 02:05:25,589 --> 02:05:24,079 all these other things 3625 02:05:27,189 --> 02:05:25,599 do you think 3626 02:05:28,470 --> 02:05:27,199 that because we are part of the earth if 3627 02:05:29,589 --> 02:05:28,480 we're made from the earth we're made 3628 02:05:31,030 --> 02:05:29,599 from that 3629 02:05:32,950 --> 02:05:31,040 one would have to assume you could be 3630 02:05:34,550 --> 02:05:32,960 connect you're connected to that 3631 02:05:35,830 --> 02:05:34,560 you know people think that's woo talk or 3632 02:05:37,430 --> 02:05:35,840 whatever but 3633 02:05:38,550 --> 02:05:37,440 i mean just look at grounding you can 3634 02:05:40,550 --> 02:05:38,560 even look that up even medical 3635 02:05:42,149 --> 02:05:40,560 physicians will recommend that's you i 3636 02:05:45,189 --> 02:05:42,159 mean 3637 02:05:46,709 --> 02:05:45,199 yeah i think we're we are absolutely 3638 02:05:48,550 --> 02:05:46,719 a product of 3639 02:05:50,550 --> 02:05:48,560 the earth that we are standing on we are 3640 02:05:52,310 --> 02:05:50,560 a product of our environment and we 3641 02:05:54,310 --> 02:05:52,320 influence our environment just like the 3642 02:05:56,229 --> 02:05:54,320 environment influences us 3643 02:05:57,910 --> 02:05:56,239 and i think we've lost touch 3644 02:06:00,229 --> 02:05:57,920 with how that works 3645 02:06:02,310 --> 02:06:00,239 i think the people that came long long 3646 02:06:03,910 --> 02:06:02,320 before us we're a little bit more in 3647 02:06:05,270 --> 02:06:03,920 touch with that 3648 02:06:07,189 --> 02:06:05,280 um 3649 02:06:09,189 --> 02:06:07,199 and well you like you're talking about 3650 02:06:10,950 --> 02:06:09,199 grounding i do that too 3651 02:06:13,430 --> 02:06:10,960 you know try to get out at least once a 3652 02:06:15,270 --> 02:06:13,440 day in my bare feet into the grass 3653 02:06:16,790 --> 02:06:15,280 it sounds absolutely ridiculous but i 3654 02:06:18,950 --> 02:06:16,800 always feel better afterwards and 3655 02:06:22,550 --> 02:06:18,960 whether it's in my head 3656 02:06:25,030 --> 02:06:22,560 or not i believe in it 3657 02:06:27,669 --> 02:06:25,040 but yeah 3658 02:06:29,510 --> 02:06:27,679 i can't imagine 3659 02:06:31,750 --> 02:06:29,520 the education that we are lacking that 3660 02:06:33,589 --> 02:06:31,760 the people before us had 3661 02:06:34,550 --> 02:06:33,599 um truly 3662 02:06:37,750 --> 02:06:34,560 uh 3663 02:06:39,669 --> 02:06:37,760 we know for certain that there was um 3664 02:06:42,149 --> 02:06:39,679 older civilizations here before us 3665 02:06:43,830 --> 02:06:42,159 there's they've left you know 3666 02:06:45,669 --> 02:06:43,840 their artwork they've left carvings 3667 02:06:47,430 --> 02:06:45,679 behind they've left artifacts behind and 3668 02:06:49,750 --> 02:06:47,440 anytime something like that is found the 3669 02:06:51,830 --> 02:06:49,760 scientific community gets a hold of it 3670 02:06:54,069 --> 02:06:51,840 shoots it away as fast as they can and 3671 02:06:55,430 --> 02:06:54,079 then that's the last we hear of it 3672 02:06:58,550 --> 02:06:55,440 um 3673 02:07:00,310 --> 02:06:58,560 and i think it's sad uh that 3674 02:07:02,390 --> 02:07:00,320 the community is 3675 02:07:04,390 --> 02:07:02,400 is like that they're so 3676 02:07:07,030 --> 02:07:04,400 they're holding on to what they think is 3677 02:07:09,430 --> 02:07:07,040 right so hard that anything that might 3678 02:07:12,310 --> 02:07:09,440 puncture that has to be 3679 02:07:13,750 --> 02:07:12,320 put underneath the rug 3680 02:07:14,709 --> 02:07:13,760 we actually had something like that 3681 02:07:17,350 --> 02:07:14,719 happen 3682 02:07:20,310 --> 02:07:17,360 really near us down in oklahoma someone 3683 02:07:22,390 --> 02:07:20,320 had found an artifact uh in the river 3684 02:07:23,350 --> 02:07:22,400 just outside of tulsa 3685 02:07:25,430 --> 02:07:23,360 um 3686 02:07:27,589 --> 02:07:25,440 and i can't remember exactly what it was 3687 02:07:29,430 --> 02:07:27,599 but it pointed to being i think it was 3688 02:07:34,870 --> 02:07:29,440 roman 3689 02:07:36,310 --> 02:07:34,880 related i believe an old old old old 3690 02:07:37,589 --> 02:07:36,320 roman um 3691 02:07:40,310 --> 02:07:37,599 something that shouldn't have been able 3692 02:07:43,270 --> 02:07:40,320 to be here and it was down inside rock 3693 02:07:45,830 --> 02:07:43,280 it wasn't as if it was something that 3694 02:07:48,229 --> 02:07:45,840 some uh somebody brought with them and 3695 02:07:49,830 --> 02:07:48,239 dropped it was you know some coin that 3696 02:07:50,950 --> 02:07:49,840 they had or and it wasn't a coin it was 3697 02:07:52,310 --> 02:07:50,960 something 3698 02:07:53,669 --> 02:07:52,320 i think it was some kind of a tool or 3699 02:07:55,350 --> 02:07:53,679 something like that 3700 02:07:59,109 --> 02:07:55,360 they found it in the bedrock by the 3701 02:08:01,350 --> 02:07:59,119 river in tulsa and uh they automatically 3702 02:08:03,910 --> 02:08:01,360 you know called the nearest university 3703 02:08:06,390 --> 02:08:03,920 and oh we'll take it from you and see 3704 02:08:08,310 --> 02:08:06,400 what's going on and then you know weeks 3705 02:08:10,149 --> 02:08:08,320 and weeks later the guy was like called 3706 02:08:11,669 --> 02:08:10,159 them up and was like hey did you what 3707 02:08:13,750 --> 02:08:11,679 did you do with that or have what have 3708 02:08:15,990 --> 02:08:13,760 you figured out and they were like oh it 3709 02:08:18,310 --> 02:08:16,000 was nothing you know it got it got 3710 02:08:19,990 --> 02:08:18,320 thrown away it wasn't anything 3711 02:08:20,870 --> 02:08:20,000 yeah and 3712 02:08:26,470 --> 02:08:20,880 yeah 3713 02:08:27,669 --> 02:08:26,480 could man now i if i say something guys 3714 02:08:29,830 --> 02:08:27,679 now i'm just off the top of the dome 3715 02:08:31,589 --> 02:08:29,840 here but i could have swore i read 3716 02:08:33,750 --> 02:08:31,599 something a while ago you just triggered 3717 02:08:35,990 --> 02:08:33,760 an old memory for me i could have swore 3718 02:08:39,589 --> 02:08:36,000 they found archaeological evidence in 3719 02:08:41,990 --> 02:08:39,599 the grand uh the grand canyon of 3720 02:08:44,390 --> 02:08:42,000 egyptian pottery i could be wrong on 3721 02:08:45,189 --> 02:08:44,400 that but i is that right did that happen 3722 02:08:48,870 --> 02:08:45,199 too 3723 02:08:51,510 --> 02:08:48,880 yes i mean at a certain point you gotta 3724 02:08:53,510 --> 02:08:51,520 you've got to say either 3725 02:08:55,350 --> 02:08:53,520 i don't know ancient aliens whatever 3726 02:08:56,390 --> 02:08:55,360 people you know love hate relationship 3727 02:08:58,149 --> 02:08:56,400 with that and it's neither here nor 3728 02:08:59,270 --> 02:08:58,159 there i guess but one could have to at 3729 02:09:01,109 --> 02:08:59,280 least say 3730 02:09:03,270 --> 02:09:01,119 there was a form of communication or 3731 02:09:05,510 --> 02:09:03,280 transformation of at least information 3732 02:09:07,510 --> 02:09:05,520 so you're replicating that same process 3733 02:09:08,390 --> 02:09:07,520 of making something you know here in the 3734 02:09:10,950 --> 02:09:08,400 states 3735 02:09:13,510 --> 02:09:10,960 or you know at the time sure was located 3736 02:09:15,430 --> 02:09:13,520 a little differently but there's no way 3737 02:09:17,030 --> 02:09:15,440 that that should be found talked about 3738 02:09:18,149 --> 02:09:17,040 written about and not be a big deal and 3739 02:09:19,669 --> 02:09:18,159 yet i feel like every time we bring it 3740 02:09:21,030 --> 02:09:19,679 up we're like yeah that's really 3741 02:09:23,430 --> 02:09:21,040 happening but it's like 3742 02:09:25,430 --> 02:09:23,440 where's where's the like study on this 3743 02:09:27,350 --> 02:09:25,440 why are we not why is this not changing 3744 02:09:28,629 --> 02:09:27,360 everything that we know and that's just 3745 02:09:30,229 --> 02:09:28,639 one micro thing compared to like you're 3746 02:09:32,390 --> 02:09:30,239 saying around the world the evidence 3747 02:09:33,510 --> 02:09:32,400 that seems to indicate a lot more was 3748 02:09:35,430 --> 02:09:33,520 going on 3749 02:09:36,950 --> 02:09:35,440 um one closing thought really quick 3750 02:09:38,950 --> 02:09:36,960 though with the um 3751 02:09:40,310 --> 02:09:38,960 with cern uh lewis i'm gonna go back up 3752 02:09:42,470 --> 02:09:40,320 on your comment here 3753 02:09:44,149 --> 02:09:42,480 he was asking a question in relation to 3754 02:09:47,189 --> 02:09:44,159 the dance lewis if i don't find it put 3755 02:09:50,069 --> 02:09:47,199 it back in there um 3756 02:09:52,390 --> 02:09:50,079 he brought up a question he said uh 3757 02:09:54,390 --> 02:09:52,400 something along what was oh here we go 3758 02:09:56,550 --> 02:09:54,400 what was the cosmic dan actually said 3759 02:09:57,750 --> 02:09:56,560 what it what it is representing earlier 3760 02:09:59,990 --> 02:09:57,760 do you remember what the cosmic dance 3761 02:10:00,950 --> 02:10:00,000 what he's referring to there is that one 3762 02:10:03,910 --> 02:10:00,960 so 3763 02:10:05,270 --> 02:10:03,920 the shiva statue um oh okay it's 3764 02:10:07,109 --> 02:10:05,280 supposed to 3765 02:10:09,510 --> 02:10:07,119 this is what cern said 3766 02:10:11,109 --> 02:10:09,520 the the statue itself being there is 3767 02:10:13,430 --> 02:10:11,119 supposed to represent 3768 02:10:17,270 --> 02:10:13,440 the cosmic dance 3769 02:10:19,270 --> 02:10:17,280 that shiva was in charge of the universe 3770 02:10:20,870 --> 02:10:19,280 and how it works within itself that's 3771 02:10:24,310 --> 02:10:20,880 the cosmic dance 3772 02:10:26,310 --> 02:10:24,320 and then it was supposed to also signify 3773 02:10:28,709 --> 02:10:26,320 that cern itself 3774 02:10:31,990 --> 02:10:28,719 because they were um 3775 02:10:34,069 --> 02:10:32,000 they were basically creating um dance 3776 02:10:36,390 --> 02:10:34,079 with the protons 3777 02:10:38,390 --> 02:10:36,400 that was a cosmic dance so that they 3778 02:10:39,669 --> 02:10:38,400 could learn how the universe works that 3779 02:10:44,790 --> 02:10:39,679 was their 3780 02:10:47,189 --> 02:10:44,800 and then he was saying too though uh 3781 02:10:49,430 --> 02:10:47,199 let's see he says i'm on to the 3782 02:10:52,310 --> 02:10:49,440 indication that 66 is the rotation of 3783 02:10:54,149 --> 02:10:52,320 the call or the colander so if that's 3784 02:10:55,750 --> 02:10:54,159 the rotation or 3785 02:10:57,030 --> 02:10:55,760 like how they represent each other's her 3786 02:10:58,229 --> 02:10:57,040 dance and then they have the dancing 3787 02:11:00,149 --> 02:10:58,239 with the particles and all this stuff 3788 02:11:02,470 --> 02:11:00,159 for the protons but he was saying if 3789 02:11:05,109 --> 02:11:02,480 that's the symbolism uh this is what he 3790 02:11:06,790 --> 02:11:05,119 said at least that's why they said 3791 02:11:08,229 --> 02:11:06,800 there was a portal to hell so do you 3792 02:11:10,229 --> 02:11:08,239 know what that if that was something 3793 02:11:13,910 --> 02:11:10,239 that actually came out and said there's 3794 02:11:16,950 --> 02:11:13,920 been a thousand things said about it um 3795 02:11:19,430 --> 02:11:16,960 it might be i don't know uh well i like 3796 02:11:21,750 --> 02:11:19,440 it's like i said before so like the the 3797 02:11:23,109 --> 02:11:21,760 original logo was supposed to represent 3798 02:11:25,270 --> 02:11:23,119 the collider and then they thought it 3799 02:11:27,430 --> 02:11:25,280 looked like the black hole so they just 3800 02:11:28,470 --> 02:11:27,440 turned and moved some of it away from 3801 02:11:29,750 --> 02:11:28,480 itself 3802 02:11:33,030 --> 02:11:29,760 and then it just happened to look like 3803 02:11:34,709 --> 02:11:33,040 the 666 so yeah it's still supposed to 3804 02:11:36,550 --> 02:11:34,719 yeah it's still supposed to kind of 3805 02:11:38,229 --> 02:11:36,560 represent the collider 3806 02:11:39,830 --> 02:11:38,239 and then i told you they curved the 3807 02:11:42,069 --> 02:11:39,840 tails a little bit so it was like a 3808 02:11:44,149 --> 02:11:42,079 proton tail so it was supposed to be 3809 02:11:46,870 --> 02:11:44,159 kind of like a conglomeration of the 3810 02:11:48,069 --> 02:11:46,880 collider and the protons 3811 02:11:49,510 --> 02:11:48,079 and then which is 3812 02:11:51,350 --> 02:11:49,520 which is interesting because this is 3813 02:11:52,709 --> 02:11:51,360 right here this is what um this is wayne 3814 02:11:53,990 --> 02:11:52,719 he's actually i believe a science 3815 02:11:55,189 --> 02:11:54,000 teacher if i'm not mistaken but that's 3816 02:11:57,109 --> 02:11:55,199 what he's saying basically is that look 3817 02:11:59,189 --> 02:11:57,119 at the carbon atom which all living 3818 02:12:01,030 --> 02:11:59,199 things are equals six protons equals six 3819 02:12:02,950 --> 02:12:01,040 neutrons six electrons which equals six 3820 02:12:03,910 --> 02:12:02,960 six six six so 3821 02:12:06,310 --> 02:12:03,920 hey 3822 02:12:09,030 --> 02:12:06,320 science bro science is tight we can't 3823 02:12:11,510 --> 02:12:09,040 argue with those numbers either so it is 3824 02:12:12,870 --> 02:12:11,520 like i said i mean that's where again 3825 02:12:14,870 --> 02:12:12,880 when you think of how 3826 02:12:16,709 --> 02:12:14,880 people get very touchy with the number 3827 02:12:18,790 --> 02:12:16,719 666 3828 02:12:20,629 --> 02:12:18,800 but then in like in science if that is 3829 02:12:23,030 --> 02:12:20,639 the thing that represents all things 3830 02:12:24,790 --> 02:12:23,040 that have life have that in there 3831 02:12:27,669 --> 02:12:24,800 i don't know you know what i mean and i 3832 02:12:29,990 --> 02:12:27,679 always get nervous about it because 3833 02:12:31,990 --> 02:12:30,000 you know victor's right history 3834 02:12:33,910 --> 02:12:32,000 if you can make people 3835 02:12:35,990 --> 02:12:33,920 fear something that actually should be 3836 02:12:37,270 --> 02:12:36,000 connected to us now again i'm not settle 3837 02:12:38,550 --> 02:12:37,280 down in the chat there i'm not trying to 3838 02:12:39,910 --> 02:12:38,560 say i'm like a devil worshiper or 3839 02:12:41,189 --> 02:12:39,920 anything like that but i'm what i'm 3840 02:12:42,790 --> 02:12:41,199 saying is that if you can influence 3841 02:12:44,470 --> 02:12:42,800 people enough to be fearful of something 3842 02:12:46,470 --> 02:12:44,480 that we should actually be 3843 02:12:47,910 --> 02:12:46,480 a part of us 3844 02:12:49,510 --> 02:12:47,920 then you would never have their concern 3845 02:12:50,950 --> 02:12:49,520 of them ever even trying to research it 3846 02:12:53,030 --> 02:12:50,960 because they don't even talk about it 3847 02:12:54,550 --> 02:12:53,040 for instance uh 3848 02:12:57,669 --> 02:12:54,560 you know mushrooms in general or 3849 02:13:01,189 --> 02:12:57,679 cytosiblin or wait scios 3850 02:13:04,550 --> 02:13:02,149 do you know which one i'm trying to say 3851 02:13:06,709 --> 02:13:04,560 here jess i have no idea it's like it's 3852 02:13:08,629 --> 02:13:06,719 it's it's micro dosing of mushrooms like 3853 02:13:10,950 --> 02:13:08,639 the effects of that it's a 3854 02:13:12,550 --> 02:13:10,960 psychedelic reaction so the point being 3855 02:13:14,149 --> 02:13:12,560 with the war on drugs it made people 3856 02:13:15,990 --> 02:13:14,159 entirely fearful of 3857 02:13:17,830 --> 02:13:16,000 anything to do with any of that we could 3858 02:13:19,750 --> 02:13:17,840 even you know any of these things that 3859 02:13:21,350 --> 02:13:19,760 are actually kind of natural here on the 3860 02:13:22,149 --> 02:13:21,360 earth that perhaps worked very well with 3861 02:13:23,830 --> 02:13:22,159 us 3862 02:13:25,669 --> 02:13:23,840 was put out as a very fearful thing so 3863 02:13:27,270 --> 02:13:25,679 people were nervous to even talk about 3864 02:13:29,430 --> 02:13:27,280 it let alone actually research it and 3865 02:13:30,550 --> 02:13:29,440 understand it so all i'm asking is like 3866 02:13:31,910 --> 02:13:30,560 do you think that there's a chance that 3867 02:13:33,750 --> 02:13:31,920 people have 3868 02:13:36,470 --> 02:13:33,760 made people extremely fearful of just 3869 02:13:38,069 --> 02:13:36,480 numerology or certain symbols without 3870 02:13:39,510 --> 02:13:38,079 actually understanding and delving into 3871 02:13:41,589 --> 02:13:39,520 the full history behind it i'm not 3872 02:13:42,870 --> 02:13:41,599 saying that that's the case with the 666 3873 02:13:44,629 --> 02:13:42,880 thing then it's an all good thing i'm 3874 02:13:45,830 --> 02:13:44,639 not you know whatever i i guess what i'm 3875 02:13:46,870 --> 02:13:45,840 saying is i'm kind of ignorant on it in 3876 02:13:48,390 --> 02:13:46,880 some ways 3877 02:13:49,990 --> 02:13:48,400 so it's interesting that it's such an 3878 02:13:51,669 --> 02:13:50,000 evil thing 3879 02:13:54,390 --> 02:13:51,679 but then from his stance he's saying 3880 02:13:56,310 --> 02:13:54,400 that almost all life has those numbers 3881 02:13:57,669 --> 02:13:56,320 it comes out to that so that's weird 3882 02:13:59,350 --> 02:13:57,679 that's a weird correlation to me i guess 3883 02:14:01,910 --> 02:13:59,360 is all i'm saying well it worked out 3884 02:14:03,830 --> 02:14:01,920 that way it's happened 3885 02:14:06,790 --> 02:14:03,840 numerous times throughout history that 3886 02:14:10,390 --> 02:14:06,800 disinformation kind of um way of doing 3887 02:14:14,550 --> 02:14:10,400 things the catholic church is horribly 3888 02:14:17,030 --> 02:14:14,560 bad at it um uh yeah trying to i mean 3889 02:14:19,430 --> 02:14:17,040 with science itself they they for years 3890 02:14:21,669 --> 02:14:19,440 there was an entire you know 3891 02:14:23,830 --> 02:14:21,679 time period where they spent 3892 02:14:26,390 --> 02:14:23,840 trying to discount all scientists and to 3893 02:14:29,750 --> 02:14:26,400 say that they were you know satan and 3894 02:14:31,430 --> 02:14:29,760 so yeah it happens all the time um 3895 02:14:33,270 --> 02:14:31,440 and they're proud of it 3896 02:14:34,310 --> 02:14:33,280 it's kind of crazy 3897 02:14:35,830 --> 02:14:34,320 um 3898 02:14:37,030 --> 02:14:35,840 you could go a whole bunch of ways on 3899 02:14:39,189 --> 02:14:37,040 that what 3900 02:14:41,030 --> 02:14:39,199 you could say 3901 02:14:43,189 --> 02:14:41,040 what if we were never meant to 3902 02:14:45,830 --> 02:14:43,199 understand the science of it 3903 02:14:47,910 --> 02:14:45,840 and this is the universe's way of trying 3904 02:14:50,629 --> 02:14:47,920 to get us to stop 3905 02:14:52,709 --> 02:14:50,639 maybe this is our own destruction 3906 02:14:54,550 --> 02:14:52,719 yeah we're gonna be our own downfall no 3907 02:14:56,149 --> 02:14:54,560 matter we're gonna be our own downfall 3908 02:14:57,510 --> 02:14:56,159 and for that matter 3909 02:15:03,189 --> 02:14:57,520 that'll 3910 02:15:05,189 --> 02:15:03,199 people that came before us 3911 02:15:07,510 --> 02:15:05,199 perhaps they did the same thing 3912 02:15:09,109 --> 02:15:07,520 people were on the same path maybe they 3913 02:15:10,870 --> 02:15:09,119 got to a point where they destroyed 3914 02:15:12,390 --> 02:15:10,880 themselves too 3915 02:15:14,390 --> 02:15:12,400 and that's why we haven't learned yet 3916 02:15:16,390 --> 02:15:14,400 we're we're just going to play it out 3917 02:15:17,270 --> 02:15:16,400 all over again 3918 02:15:18,950 --> 02:15:17,280 you know 3919 02:15:21,189 --> 02:15:18,960 first of all welcome dave scott to the 3920 02:15:22,870 --> 02:15:21,199 chat guys uh sor radio or spaced out 3921 02:15:24,629 --> 02:15:22,880 radio over there go check him out lynne 3922 02:15:26,950 --> 02:15:24,639 wallington will actually be going on in 3923 02:15:28,470 --> 02:15:26,960 about 34 minutes here she'll be living 3924 02:15:31,109 --> 02:15:28,480 live i don't know she's got on there 3925 02:15:32,629 --> 02:15:31,119 tonight but it should be a good time um 3926 02:15:33,589 --> 02:15:32,639 really quick though fun thing you're 3927 02:15:35,430 --> 02:15:33,599 talking about there with the religion 3928 02:15:37,589 --> 02:15:35,440 thing and i'm not trying to like again 3929 02:15:39,510 --> 02:15:37,599 we all we represent life right we're all 3930 02:15:40,709 --> 02:15:39,520 different pieces of this so how you 3931 02:15:42,950 --> 02:15:40,719 believe is how you believe your life i'm 3932 02:15:45,430 --> 02:15:42,960 not knocking any of that but man alive 3933 02:15:47,270 --> 02:15:45,440 the catholic church it's so funny that 3934 02:15:48,550 --> 02:15:47,280 they railed on like 3935 02:15:50,310 --> 02:15:48,560 first of all i keep everything in latin 3936 02:15:52,470 --> 02:15:50,320 and you have the 200 year holy war and 3937 02:15:53,669 --> 02:15:52,480 all this jazz but then 3938 02:15:54,709 --> 02:15:53,679 go back to when they're first having 3939 02:15:55,990 --> 02:15:54,719 their church services and they're 3940 02:15:57,109 --> 02:15:56,000 finally getting people in the church 3941 02:15:58,709 --> 02:15:57,119 right 3942 02:16:00,629 --> 02:15:58,719 did you just with the incense did you 3943 02:16:01,990 --> 02:16:00,639 know how that was like all like weed and 3944 02:16:02,830 --> 02:16:02,000 dmt and stuff they were getting those 3945 02:16:04,870 --> 02:16:02,840 people 3946 02:16:05,830 --> 02:16:04,880 high and they're still up until now it's 3947 02:16:06,790 --> 02:16:05,840 illegal in the united states but i 3948 02:16:08,470 --> 02:16:06,800 believe there's parks in europe but they 3949 02:16:09,910 --> 02:16:08,480 were still doing it and so these people 3950 02:16:11,430 --> 02:16:09,920 are having these experiences and they're 3951 02:16:12,950 --> 02:16:11,440 meeting god and they're meeting these 3952 02:16:14,390 --> 02:16:12,960 entities and it's like 3953 02:16:17,189 --> 02:16:14,400 you know we're tripping balls just a 3954 02:16:18,629 --> 02:16:17,199 little bit and getting them drunk too 3955 02:16:20,870 --> 02:16:18,639 i mean a hundred percent i'm just 3956 02:16:23,109 --> 02:16:20,880 looking at their asses 3957 02:16:24,069 --> 02:16:23,119 it's so funny to me that and that's 3958 02:16:26,149 --> 02:16:24,079 where 3959 02:16:27,830 --> 02:16:26,159 i was raised and a little bit backstage 3960 02:16:29,589 --> 02:16:27,840 i was very very religious that way like 3961 02:16:31,350 --> 02:16:29,599 a very strict up you know in their 3962 02:16:32,389 --> 02:16:31,360 church pew from the time i was born 3963 02:16:34,070 --> 02:16:32,399 right like 3964 02:16:35,429 --> 02:16:34,080 grew up in a very strict uh upbringing 3965 02:16:36,709 --> 02:16:35,439 that way and to even question some of 3966 02:16:38,150 --> 02:16:36,719 this stuff even if you did have 3967 02:16:39,990 --> 02:16:38,160 questions was like sac religious you 3968 02:16:41,190 --> 02:16:40,000 couldn't you know the idea of aliens or 3969 02:16:42,709 --> 02:16:41,200 anything like that it was like oh those 3970 02:16:44,070 --> 02:16:42,719 are just misunderstood angels or demons 3971 02:16:46,790 --> 02:16:44,080 and yadda yadda 3972 02:16:49,990 --> 02:16:48,709 it's it's where whatever you believe in 3973 02:16:52,469 --> 02:16:50,000 a higher power god whatever you want to 3974 02:16:54,230 --> 02:16:52,479 call it i believe in that it's where man 3975 02:16:56,469 --> 02:16:54,240 gets a hold of 3976 02:16:58,070 --> 02:16:56,479 and twists religion and makes it this 3977 02:16:59,270 --> 02:16:58,080 sick controlling tool it's been one of 3978 02:17:01,669 --> 02:16:59,280 the biggest propaganda pieces and 3979 02:17:04,150 --> 02:17:01,679 controlling tools that's ever existed 3980 02:17:05,830 --> 02:17:04,160 in my personal opinion now i still hold 3981 02:17:07,589 --> 02:17:05,840 to the ideals of it and what it 3982 02:17:09,910 --> 02:17:07,599 represents is a great thing but how it's 3983 02:17:11,669 --> 02:17:09,920 utilized and how it's imp implemented it 3984 02:17:13,830 --> 02:17:11,679 has been it's been pretty devastating 3985 02:17:15,110 --> 02:17:13,840 across the board across the world and 3986 02:17:16,950 --> 02:17:15,120 that's just my own little personal 3987 02:17:18,070 --> 02:17:16,960 belief on it but i you look at stuff 3988 02:17:19,429 --> 02:17:18,080 like that like i said they were getting 3989 02:17:21,910 --> 02:17:19,439 people high and they're like all right 3990 02:17:23,030 --> 02:17:21,920 just 20 guys you know like i always 3991 02:17:24,469 --> 02:17:23,040 thought it was funny that growing up 3992 02:17:26,150 --> 02:17:24,479 reading the bible 3993 02:17:27,349 --> 02:17:26,160 the jesus is talking about like peace 3994 02:17:28,950 --> 02:17:27,359 and love and being with your neighbors 3995 02:17:31,509 --> 02:17:28,960 and like it's really just stops and was 3996 02:17:33,750 --> 02:17:31,519 like and don't forget twenty percent to 3997 02:17:35,030 --> 02:17:33,760 your church ten percent to caesar render 3998 02:17:36,549 --> 02:17:35,040 under caesar's what it's caesar's under 3999 02:17:38,709 --> 02:17:36,559 god where's god like he broke down tax 4000 02:17:40,549 --> 02:17:38,719 brackets and percentages 4001 02:17:43,750 --> 02:17:40,559 do you think there's a chance that like 4002 02:17:45,589 --> 02:17:43,760 maybe just some uh you know like 4003 02:17:47,429 --> 02:17:45,599 a bishop in that area was like i could 4004 02:17:48,950 --> 02:17:47,439 rewrite this part a little bit and it 4005 02:17:49,910 --> 02:17:48,960 and then say hey if i throw this in 4006 02:17:50,709 --> 02:17:49,920 there and they can't even understand 4007 02:17:52,389 --> 02:17:50,719 what we're saying but one they can 4008 02:17:53,589 --> 02:17:52,399 finally read it and understand because 4009 02:17:56,230 --> 02:17:53,599 the first guy that ever translated the 4010 02:17:57,990 --> 02:17:56,240 bible from latin into english william 4011 02:17:59,750 --> 02:17:58,000 tyndall they burned him at the stake 4012 02:18:01,669 --> 02:17:59,760 stake they were that upset they were 4013 02:18:03,190 --> 02:18:01,679 that concerned about people being able 4014 02:18:05,429 --> 02:18:03,200 to read it themselves was all about 4015 02:18:07,830 --> 02:18:05,439 control of information that we were 4016 02:18:09,190 --> 02:18:07,840 ready to burn people to stake for this 4017 02:18:11,830 --> 02:18:09,200 and 4018 02:18:13,509 --> 02:18:11,840 i'm sorry no no no i'm uh i'm going off 4019 02:18:14,950 --> 02:18:13,519 on something else i'm sorry guys i'm 4020 02:18:16,950 --> 02:18:14,960 sorry 4021 02:18:18,549 --> 02:18:16,960 come over to bob for that you go over to 4022 02:18:22,150 --> 02:18:18,559 the the vanderbilt brothers podcast we 4023 02:18:23,910 --> 02:18:22,160 get a little more a little political 4024 02:18:25,429 --> 02:18:23,920 but there's there's it's all about 4025 02:18:26,950 --> 02:18:25,439 basically i guess i'm saying control of 4026 02:18:28,070 --> 02:18:26,960 information to just control people 4027 02:18:29,990 --> 02:18:28,080 through fear 4028 02:18:31,589 --> 02:18:30,000 and i think one has to say irregardless 4029 02:18:33,030 --> 02:18:31,599 of your political spectrum your opinions 4030 02:18:34,629 --> 02:18:33,040 and how you've been taught 4031 02:18:36,469 --> 02:18:34,639 when you discover the truth and if you 4032 02:18:38,870 --> 02:18:36,479 truly pursue pursue the truth the truth 4033 02:18:40,629 --> 02:18:38,880 will reveal itself to you and if upon 4034 02:18:42,070 --> 02:18:40,639 that truth being revealed if it 4035 02:18:43,589 --> 02:18:42,080 contradicts something in your life or 4036 02:18:45,349 --> 02:18:43,599 the way you believe 4037 02:18:47,349 --> 02:18:45,359 you have a decision to make 4038 02:18:49,110 --> 02:18:47,359 you're either going to choose to 4039 02:18:50,629 --> 02:18:49,120 change the chapter and go in a slightly 4040 02:18:52,629 --> 02:18:50,639 different direction or be complicit with 4041 02:18:54,150 --> 02:18:52,639 this idea that you think everything's 4042 02:18:56,870 --> 02:18:54,160 okay and then you just buy back into 4043 02:18:58,389 --> 02:18:56,880 that just but i consider walking zombies 4044 02:18:59,669 --> 02:18:58,399 someday so we're just going to job come 4045 02:19:01,589 --> 02:18:59,679 home and 4046 02:19:04,549 --> 02:19:01,599 that's miserable i just can't do that i 4047 02:19:07,190 --> 02:19:04,559 don't know anyways jess interrupt please 4048 02:19:09,030 --> 02:19:07,200 let's get back to uh 4049 02:19:10,309 --> 02:19:09,040 what we were talking about guys i don't 4050 02:19:13,110 --> 02:19:10,319 know what happened there what were we 4051 02:19:18,230 --> 02:19:13,120 talking about glossed over from 4052 02:19:21,750 --> 02:19:19,669 let's do this we've only got about 30 4053 02:19:23,669 --> 02:19:21,760 minutes or less here before i can uh get 4054 02:19:25,349 --> 02:19:23,679 out here and let you go why don't we get 4055 02:19:27,669 --> 02:19:25,359 into some of your your 4056 02:19:29,669 --> 02:19:27,679 like disappearing homes and some of the 4057 02:19:30,870 --> 02:19:29,679 the houses and lost time and missing 4058 02:19:33,509 --> 02:19:30,880 time or whatever you want to share that 4059 02:19:35,110 --> 02:19:33,519 way please please open it up to uh to 4060 02:19:37,750 --> 02:19:35,120 everybody here 4061 02:19:39,270 --> 02:19:37,760 yeah absolutely so 4062 02:19:40,389 --> 02:19:39,280 um 4063 02:19:42,230 --> 02:19:40,399 gosh 4064 02:19:44,950 --> 02:19:42,240 um my team 4065 02:19:47,589 --> 02:19:44,960 the border town paranormal 4066 02:19:49,830 --> 02:19:47,599 we study 4067 02:19:52,790 --> 02:19:49,840 missing time lost time 4068 02:19:55,349 --> 02:19:52,800 uh disappearing things houses 4069 02:19:57,510 --> 02:19:55,359 reappearing things a lot um 4070 02:19:58,950 --> 02:19:57,520 just solely because in the little area 4071 02:20:00,150 --> 02:19:58,960 that we're in 4072 02:20:01,349 --> 02:20:00,160 we're like 4073 02:20:02,870 --> 02:20:01,359 we're called border town because we're 4074 02:20:08,389 --> 02:20:02,880 literally on the border of kansas and 4075 02:20:10,070 --> 02:20:08,399 oklahoma um far far southeast kansas um 4076 02:20:12,389 --> 02:20:10,080 we're literally about 4077 02:20:14,870 --> 02:20:12,399 i guess 45 minutes away from where the 4078 02:20:18,469 --> 02:20:14,880 four corners meet where oklahoma 4079 02:20:20,710 --> 02:20:18,479 missouri arkansas and kansas meet 4080 02:20:23,270 --> 02:20:20,720 um but we're i could i could walk out my 4081 02:20:25,190 --> 02:20:23,280 front door now and be in oklahoma in 4082 02:20:27,110 --> 02:20:25,200 about a minute just walking on foot 4083 02:20:29,590 --> 02:20:27,120 that's how close we are 4084 02:20:31,910 --> 02:20:29,600 but this area here um we're actually 4085 02:20:33,510 --> 02:20:31,920 called the little ozarks um 4086 02:20:35,030 --> 02:20:33,520 most people hear kansas and they think 4087 02:20:38,389 --> 02:20:35,040 really flat 4088 02:20:41,510 --> 02:20:38,399 but we're actually in a very hilly 4089 02:20:44,630 --> 02:20:41,520 not mountainous but getting close type 4090 02:20:47,750 --> 02:20:44,640 area and it's all sandstone based 4091 02:20:50,309 --> 02:20:47,760 which we is full of quartz um so we get 4092 02:20:53,270 --> 02:20:50,319 all sorts of fun things that happen in 4093 02:20:55,750 --> 02:20:53,280 our area caney itself is a valley 4094 02:20:59,510 --> 02:20:55,760 and we are surrounded by sandstone 4095 02:21:01,429 --> 02:20:59,520 mountains uh mountainous range 4096 02:21:03,110 --> 02:21:01,439 and 4097 02:21:05,190 --> 02:21:03,120 a friend of 4098 02:21:07,110 --> 02:21:05,200 pam the lady i mentioned earlier she's 4099 02:21:08,710 --> 02:21:07,120 in our investigative group 4100 02:21:11,270 --> 02:21:08,720 she grew up 4101 02:21:14,230 --> 02:21:11,280 in an area just outside of town here 4102 02:21:16,630 --> 02:21:14,240 where there was a house 4103 02:21:19,110 --> 02:21:16,640 that her and her brother visited 4104 02:21:23,429 --> 02:21:19,120 that disappeared on them 4105 02:21:25,750 --> 02:21:24,389 so 4106 02:21:27,990 --> 02:21:25,760 when she was little her brother 4107 02:21:30,389 --> 02:21:28,000 collected beer cans because he liked to 4108 02:21:32,150 --> 02:21:30,399 try to get all the different labels and 4109 02:21:34,309 --> 02:21:32,160 uh on their days when they didn't have 4110 02:21:37,349 --> 02:21:34,319 anything to do uh they would go off in 4111 02:21:38,950 --> 02:21:37,359 his car uh out into the rural area 4112 02:21:40,230 --> 02:21:38,960 outside of caney 4113 02:21:41,670 --> 02:21:40,240 and hunt for them because you know 4114 02:21:44,469 --> 02:21:41,680 there's all dirt roads you know people 4115 02:21:47,030 --> 02:21:44,479 out drinking and they'd chuck a beer and 4116 02:21:49,190 --> 02:21:47,040 um they were out uh in this one area one 4117 02:21:51,830 --> 02:21:49,200 day and there was this really really old 4118 02:21:54,469 --> 02:21:51,840 house with a garage to the side of it 4119 02:21:55,910 --> 02:21:54,479 and it looked abandoned and they pulled 4120 02:21:57,750 --> 02:21:55,920 over right away because it was ripe for 4121 02:21:59,910 --> 02:21:57,760 the picking and that's especially where 4122 02:22:02,950 --> 02:21:59,920 people would pull over to drink 4123 02:22:04,870 --> 02:22:02,960 and she said they pulled in there and 4124 02:22:05,750 --> 02:22:04,880 she headed off towards the garage first 4125 02:22:07,110 --> 02:22:05,760 because she thought that would be the 4126 02:22:08,870 --> 02:22:07,120 best place to see 4127 02:22:10,309 --> 02:22:08,880 and she walked in and she said she 4128 02:22:12,469 --> 02:22:10,319 automatically didn't feel right about 4129 02:22:15,110 --> 02:22:12,479 the situation and she realized in front 4130 02:22:18,950 --> 02:22:15,120 of her was this circle 4131 02:22:21,750 --> 02:22:18,960 of animal bones and skulls 4132 02:22:22,790 --> 02:22:21,760 like purposely placed in a circle 4133 02:22:24,070 --> 02:22:22,800 and she 4134 02:22:25,190 --> 02:22:24,080 yeah she automatically thought this 4135 02:22:28,710 --> 02:22:25,200 isn't 4136 02:22:30,790 --> 02:22:28,720 i'm in i don't know what i'm doing here 4137 02:22:32,550 --> 02:22:30,800 and she went to go turn around and leave 4138 02:22:34,469 --> 02:22:32,560 and she heard there was a second story 4139 02:22:36,550 --> 02:22:34,479 to the garage and she heard somebody 4140 02:22:38,230 --> 02:22:36,560 walk 4141 02:22:40,469 --> 02:22:38,240 and she flipped out because she was like 4142 02:22:43,349 --> 02:22:40,479 oh my god there's somebody here 4143 02:22:45,110 --> 02:22:43,359 and there's a ring of skulls i'm not i'm 4144 02:22:47,270 --> 02:22:45,120 not supposed to be here and she turned 4145 02:22:49,510 --> 02:22:47,280 and run 4146 02:22:51,030 --> 02:22:49,520 her brother had seen it also and had 4147 02:22:52,389 --> 02:22:51,040 snagged her up and they hopped back in 4148 02:22:53,910 --> 02:22:52,399 his car and 4149 02:22:55,910 --> 02:22:53,920 took off on down the road that they were 4150 02:22:57,830 --> 02:22:55,920 on and pretty soon realized that it was 4151 02:22:59,349 --> 02:22:57,840 a dead end road 4152 02:23:02,550 --> 02:22:59,359 and realized they were going to have to 4153 02:23:04,469 --> 02:23:02,560 turn around and go back past the place 4154 02:23:07,429 --> 02:23:04,479 and were just as scared as they could be 4155 02:23:08,950 --> 02:23:07,439 and so he ended up just revving it and 4156 02:23:10,630 --> 02:23:08,960 going as fast as he could because they 4157 02:23:11,670 --> 02:23:10,640 didn't want to 4158 02:23:13,590 --> 02:23:11,680 but she 4159 02:23:15,429 --> 02:23:13,600 she got her gumption about her just 4160 02:23:18,150 --> 02:23:15,439 right before they went past the house 4161 02:23:19,750 --> 02:23:18,160 and she just decided to take a peek and 4162 02:23:22,389 --> 02:23:19,760 when she did 4163 02:23:26,870 --> 02:23:22,399 she realized that the driveway into the 4164 02:23:28,550 --> 02:23:26,880 house was now covered with a fence 4165 02:23:31,110 --> 02:23:28,560 like a full-on fence there was not a 4166 02:23:33,030 --> 02:23:31,120 gate there it was fenced off 4167 02:23:34,309 --> 02:23:33,040 and that the garage in the house was 4168 02:23:38,630 --> 02:23:34,319 gone 4169 02:23:41,830 --> 02:23:40,550 flip them the heck out 4170 02:23:43,270 --> 02:23:41,840 yeah 4171 02:23:44,550 --> 02:23:43,280 um so 4172 02:23:47,110 --> 02:23:44,560 later on 4173 02:23:49,670 --> 02:23:47,120 she came back with her brother because 4174 02:23:51,670 --> 02:23:49,680 they were going to try to find it again 4175 02:23:53,110 --> 02:23:51,680 and they couldn't even find the road 4176 02:23:54,710 --> 02:23:53,120 that it was on 4177 02:23:57,190 --> 02:23:54,720 let alone the driveway or where the 4178 02:23:59,510 --> 02:23:57,200 house used to be 4179 02:24:00,550 --> 02:23:59,520 meanwhile years years later after i 4180 02:24:03,190 --> 02:24:00,560 think it was just after she had 4181 02:24:04,550 --> 02:24:03,200 graduated high school her and her friend 4182 02:24:05,830 --> 02:24:04,560 were out driving those roads because 4183 02:24:07,270 --> 02:24:05,840 that's what we do around here in the 4184 02:24:08,790 --> 02:24:07,280 rural area you know you just go drive 4185 02:24:10,469 --> 02:24:08,800 the roads and drink 4186 02:24:12,630 --> 02:24:10,479 like idiots 4187 02:24:14,630 --> 02:24:12,640 and you drink and they were just driving 4188 02:24:17,429 --> 02:24:14,640 around for fun 4189 02:24:19,670 --> 02:24:17,439 and she said she looked over 4190 02:24:21,910 --> 02:24:19,680 and there was that house 4191 02:24:23,750 --> 02:24:21,920 and that garage and that driveway and 4192 02:24:25,990 --> 02:24:23,760 there was no yeah there was no fence 4193 02:24:28,630 --> 02:24:26,000 over it she 4194 02:24:30,630 --> 02:24:28,640 she made her stop her friend stop and 4195 02:24:33,990 --> 02:24:30,640 she looked all the way around and she 4196 02:24:36,230 --> 02:24:34,000 was like absolutely this is this is it 4197 02:24:38,630 --> 02:24:36,240 this is the house of my nightmares and 4198 02:24:40,630 --> 02:24:38,640 they took photos of it 4199 02:24:45,670 --> 02:24:40,640 and uh 4200 02:24:47,190 --> 02:24:45,680 they decided to go back out and look at 4201 02:24:48,550 --> 02:24:47,200 it one more time a week later or 4202 02:24:51,030 --> 02:24:48,560 something like that and when they went 4203 02:24:53,429 --> 02:24:51,040 back out it was gone again it was just 4204 02:24:55,590 --> 02:24:53,439 the driveway with the fence 4205 02:24:58,790 --> 02:24:55,600 now the crazy thing about it is is when 4206 02:24:59,830 --> 02:24:58,800 they got those photos um back because 4207 02:25:01,190 --> 02:24:59,840 you know it was back then when you had 4208 02:25:03,190 --> 02:25:01,200 to send them off 4209 02:25:05,670 --> 02:25:03,200 and you know wait for them to come back 4210 02:25:08,389 --> 02:25:05,680 those pictures weren't in there 4211 02:25:09,510 --> 02:25:08,399 they were just missing 4212 02:25:11,510 --> 02:25:09,520 so now 4213 02:25:13,270 --> 02:25:11,520 if i'm understanding the story correctly 4214 02:25:16,469 --> 02:25:13,280 it sounds like this thing is is fading 4215 02:25:18,469 --> 02:25:16,479 in and out of of reality or or crossing 4216 02:25:20,150 --> 02:25:18,479 of dimensions 4217 02:25:21,830 --> 02:25:20,160 because you're having 4218 02:25:23,190 --> 02:25:21,840 what kind of timeline is strapless this 4219 02:25:25,270 --> 02:25:23,200 sounds like over a course of maybe a 4220 02:25:28,070 --> 02:25:25,280 couple of couple years so 4221 02:25:30,469 --> 02:25:28,080 i'm guessing i'm guessing her age uh 4222 02:25:32,309 --> 02:25:30,479 when she first saw it with her brother 4223 02:25:35,030 --> 02:25:32,319 when the initial thing happened um i 4224 02:25:37,190 --> 02:25:35,040 think she was in her very very 4225 02:25:38,550 --> 02:25:37,200 early teens or maybe even just a hair 4226 02:25:41,349 --> 02:25:38,560 before that 4227 02:25:42,389 --> 02:25:41,359 okay was her age and so then the next 4228 02:25:44,550 --> 02:25:42,399 time 4229 02:25:46,630 --> 02:25:44,560 she um was evolved with it with her 4230 02:25:49,110 --> 02:25:46,640 friend was right after high school so it 4231 02:25:51,030 --> 02:25:49,120 was probably a good ten year gap 4232 02:25:54,870 --> 02:25:51,040 right there 4233 02:25:56,389 --> 02:25:54,880 um the crazy thing is is that 4234 02:25:59,429 --> 02:25:56,399 we found it 4235 02:26:02,950 --> 02:25:59,439 we found the spot using google earth 4236 02:26:04,389 --> 02:26:02,960 um interesting because the um 4237 02:26:09,190 --> 02:26:04,399 the foundation 4238 02:26:12,870 --> 02:26:09,200 is still there we tracked it down and uh 4239 02:26:15,670 --> 02:26:12,880 uh my mother grew up 4240 02:26:17,349 --> 02:26:15,680 not even a half mile from the spot 4241 02:26:19,590 --> 02:26:17,359 and i went and asked her i was like do 4242 02:26:20,870 --> 02:26:19,600 you know who you still you know do you 4243 02:26:22,630 --> 02:26:20,880 know anything about the house that was 4244 02:26:24,550 --> 02:26:22,640 here and she goes oh yeah that was old 4245 02:26:26,870 --> 02:26:24,560 man so-and-so's house 4246 02:26:30,790 --> 02:26:26,880 and she was like but he died when i was 4247 02:26:32,230 --> 02:26:30,800 younger and they tore that house down 4248 02:26:33,110 --> 02:26:32,240 right after that 4249 02:26:37,750 --> 02:26:33,120 and 4250 02:26:41,590 --> 02:26:39,990 interesting so yeah 4251 02:26:43,110 --> 02:26:41,600 you're not i mean this isn't one of 4252 02:26:44,230 --> 02:26:43,120 those things that's like oh well i've 4253 02:26:46,150 --> 02:26:44,240 never heard of that before this seems to 4254 02:26:47,429 --> 02:26:46,160 be something it's not super common but 4255 02:26:49,510 --> 02:26:47,439 it's common enough that we all seem to 4256 02:26:50,950 --> 02:26:49,520 know somebody or know a story that's 4257 02:26:52,630 --> 02:26:50,960 similar to this where you have these 4258 02:26:54,790 --> 02:26:52,640 instances where people are 4259 02:26:55,910 --> 02:26:54,800 passing by something and then and 4260 02:26:57,270 --> 02:26:55,920 they're like oh no worries i'll check 4261 02:26:58,630 --> 02:26:57,280 that out later and they come back and 4262 02:27:01,110 --> 02:26:58,640 it's gone 4263 02:27:03,030 --> 02:27:01,120 do have you ever asked her out of 4264 02:27:04,630 --> 02:27:03,040 curiosity 4265 02:27:06,070 --> 02:27:04,640 see now what's weird about is you're 4266 02:27:07,670 --> 02:27:06,080 saying that it says the google map says 4267 02:27:10,870 --> 02:27:07,680 there was a there was a location here 4268 02:27:12,469 --> 02:27:10,880 with this that looked like this right 4269 02:27:13,830 --> 02:27:12,479 so maybe it couldn't be a false memory 4270 02:27:15,030 --> 02:27:13,840 or like a screened memory i don't know 4271 02:27:16,710 --> 02:27:15,040 are you familiar with those too much 4272 02:27:18,150 --> 02:27:16,720 right like screen memory yeah 4273 02:27:19,750 --> 02:27:18,160 so i mean because i almost wonder with 4274 02:27:21,510 --> 02:27:19,760 her if she's ever had any other 4275 02:27:23,510 --> 02:27:21,520 experiences in relation to 4276 02:27:24,309 --> 02:27:23,520 to uh ufos or aliens or anything like 4277 02:27:26,389 --> 02:27:24,319 that 4278 02:27:28,790 --> 02:27:26,399 because it it'd be interesting to know 4279 02:27:30,150 --> 02:27:28,800 if she's having this like oh i'm seeing 4280 02:27:31,590 --> 02:27:30,160 this place but it isn't their kind of 4281 02:27:33,670 --> 02:27:31,600 deal 4282 02:27:36,070 --> 02:27:33,680 i she's well i mean you have to remember 4283 02:27:38,070 --> 02:27:36,080 that her friend saw it too 4284 02:27:40,870 --> 02:27:38,080 and then didn't see it and so did her 4285 02:27:42,309 --> 02:27:40,880 brother um but your question about her 4286 02:27:44,070 --> 02:27:42,319 yeah she 4287 02:27:47,030 --> 02:27:44,080 she's seen many many things in her 4288 02:27:49,429 --> 02:27:47,040 lifetime as have i um we're just those 4289 02:27:50,790 --> 02:27:49,439 kind of people i think when she kind of 4290 02:27:52,550 --> 02:27:50,800 i think anybody can be that kind of 4291 02:27:54,710 --> 02:27:52,560 people if you've seen something and you 4292 02:27:56,550 --> 02:27:54,720 latch onto it instead of doing the i'm 4293 02:27:57,510 --> 02:27:56,560 gonna pretend like this didn't happen 4294 02:27:58,550 --> 02:27:57,520 yeah 4295 02:27:59,910 --> 02:27:58,560 and 4296 02:28:01,750 --> 02:27:59,920 things like that don't happen i'm just 4297 02:28:03,429 --> 02:28:01,760 gonna move on with my life if you you're 4298 02:28:05,910 --> 02:28:03,439 actually curious about it and go after 4299 02:28:07,510 --> 02:28:05,920 it i think then it's a snowball effect 4300 02:28:08,550 --> 02:28:07,520 once you've kind of opened yourself up 4301 02:28:10,389 --> 02:28:08,560 to it 4302 02:28:11,830 --> 02:28:10,399 it's more willing to just be there in 4303 02:28:13,349 --> 02:28:11,840 your face 4304 02:28:15,270 --> 02:28:13,359 um 4305 02:28:17,990 --> 02:28:15,280 but yeah it uh 4306 02:28:20,389 --> 02:28:18,000 i was going to say um 4307 02:28:21,270 --> 02:28:20,399 that we when we found that spot 4308 02:28:24,230 --> 02:28:21,280 um 4309 02:28:26,950 --> 02:28:24,240 we use it as a base of operation now 4310 02:28:29,349 --> 02:28:26,960 we check in on it a couple times a year 4311 02:28:30,230 --> 02:28:29,359 it's a hot spot um 4312 02:28:33,590 --> 02:28:30,240 we 4313 02:28:36,309 --> 02:28:33,600 through it 4314 02:28:37,429 --> 02:28:36,319 um using different ways using estus 4315 02:28:42,070 --> 02:28:37,439 method 4316 02:28:43,270 --> 02:28:42,080 using rods um using an ovulus 4317 02:28:44,630 --> 02:28:43,280 um 4318 02:28:47,030 --> 02:28:44,640 we have 4319 02:28:48,230 --> 02:28:47,040 the most insane things are spoken to us 4320 02:28:49,910 --> 02:28:48,240 through this and it never seems like 4321 02:28:50,950 --> 02:28:49,920 it's the same thing 4322 02:28:53,510 --> 02:28:50,960 um 4323 02:28:55,110 --> 02:28:53,520 and it always calls no matter no matter 4324 02:28:56,950 --> 02:28:55,120 what it is we're speaking to and we've 4325 02:28:58,469 --> 02:28:56,960 never quite figured out what these 4326 02:28:59,670 --> 02:28:58,479 things are what these entities are we're 4327 02:29:03,990 --> 02:28:59,680 talking to 4328 02:29:05,429 --> 02:29:04,000 um they always call pam a traveler 4329 02:29:07,270 --> 02:29:05,439 interesting 4330 02:29:09,750 --> 02:29:07,280 it always comes up 4331 02:29:10,950 --> 02:29:09,760 has pam ever had any i don't know if 4332 02:29:12,710 --> 02:29:10,960 it's okay to ask he's quite if you can't 4333 02:29:15,990 --> 02:29:12,720 if you want to speak for that's okay but 4334 02:29:17,910 --> 02:29:16,000 i is she ever had um past life memories 4335 02:29:20,309 --> 02:29:17,920 or anything of that nature 4336 02:29:22,469 --> 02:29:20,319 um you know i don't know exactly i don't 4337 02:29:25,670 --> 02:29:22,479 know if we've ever brought that up 4338 02:29:31,030 --> 02:29:28,870 that would be very interesting to uh 4339 02:29:32,550 --> 02:29:31,040 you know if you're being called i mean 4340 02:29:34,710 --> 02:29:32,560 and again well i don't think i'm sharing 4341 02:29:36,550 --> 02:29:34,720 anything that ben hasn't spoken about 4342 02:29:39,190 --> 02:29:36,560 here but he had an experience where he 4343 02:29:40,870 --> 02:29:39,200 he uh he he had an experience with 4344 02:29:42,790 --> 02:29:40,880 something and basically the message he 4345 02:29:44,070 --> 02:29:42,800 got was that you are 4346 02:29:45,590 --> 02:29:44,080 ben if i'm getting wrong correctly but i 4347 02:29:46,710 --> 02:29:45,600 was like you are the lightbringer or the 4348 02:29:48,150 --> 02:29:46,720 bringer of light was that you're the 4349 02:29:49,910 --> 02:29:48,160 bringer of light or the lightbringer 4350 02:29:51,030 --> 02:29:49,920 something close to that so it's 4351 02:29:51,830 --> 02:29:51,040 interesting that you're you're saying 4352 02:29:55,590 --> 02:29:51,840 that 4353 02:29:57,750 --> 02:29:55,600 know they're calling it the traveler and 4354 02:29:59,190 --> 02:29:57,760 this seems to happen other people too 4355 02:30:01,110 --> 02:29:59,200 where 4356 02:30:02,630 --> 02:30:01,120 there seems to be a label that's put on 4357 02:30:04,550 --> 02:30:02,640 people or i don't i don't use the word 4358 02:30:05,990 --> 02:30:04,560 attachment or targeted but they're 4359 02:30:07,190 --> 02:30:06,000 they're like a honing device maybe 4360 02:30:09,110 --> 02:30:07,200 that's a better way to put it they seem 4361 02:30:11,429 --> 02:30:09,120 to be more 4362 02:30:12,870 --> 02:30:11,439 um they draw it in a little bit or 4363 02:30:14,630 --> 02:30:12,880 they're at least a lot more open to it 4364 02:30:16,309 --> 02:30:14,640 but they kind of seem to be like a 4365 02:30:18,469 --> 02:30:16,319 samantha moa comes to mind she's one of 4366 02:30:19,670 --> 02:30:18,479 those people to like everybody that i've 4367 02:30:20,630 --> 02:30:19,680 ever heard talk about like man if we 4368 02:30:22,070 --> 02:30:20,640 went in the woods we're gonna go see 4369 02:30:23,429 --> 02:30:22,080 aliens i mean now dave i don't know if 4370 02:30:25,190 --> 02:30:23,439 he's still in the chat but he can attest 4371 02:30:27,429 --> 02:30:25,200 that like that happened 4372 02:30:29,030 --> 02:30:27,439 uh you know mr bledsoe or dave you know 4373 02:30:30,550 --> 02:30:29,040 uh the bletzel family that's another one 4374 02:30:32,950 --> 02:30:30,560 you can think of that 4375 02:30:34,469 --> 02:30:32,960 seems to be very common where 4376 02:30:35,750 --> 02:30:34,479 it's almost like they're calling it in 4377 02:30:38,309 --> 02:30:35,760 whatever it is whatever people want to 4378 02:30:39,510 --> 02:30:38,319 call it um but then be curious to if you 4379 02:30:41,110 --> 02:30:39,520 guys ever talk about your own group just 4380 02:30:42,550 --> 02:30:41,120 to talk with her about that yeah i'll 4381 02:30:43,429 --> 02:30:42,560 bring that up with her 4382 02:30:44,950 --> 02:30:43,439 um 4383 02:30:46,630 --> 02:30:44,960 yeah we we thought it was very 4384 02:30:48,389 --> 02:30:46,640 interesting um 4385 02:30:52,230 --> 02:30:48,399 they kept calling her the traveler at 4386 02:30:56,230 --> 02:30:52,240 the time that that was occurring um 4387 02:30:58,309 --> 02:30:56,240 we hadn't yet had any experiences with 4388 02:31:00,469 --> 02:30:58,319 missing time or something disappearing 4389 02:31:01,990 --> 02:31:00,479 reappearing we just knew the story that 4390 02:31:05,030 --> 02:31:02,000 she had told us and we knew that this 4391 02:31:07,190 --> 02:31:05,040 spot was a hot spot for us 4392 02:31:10,630 --> 02:31:07,200 but not long after that 4393 02:31:13,270 --> 02:31:10,640 i had my first experience with it and 4394 02:31:15,670 --> 02:31:13,280 we had a few more after and i'll tell 4395 02:31:17,270 --> 02:31:15,680 you about some of them but 4396 02:31:20,790 --> 02:31:17,280 whenever they happened 4397 02:31:25,670 --> 02:31:22,630 up until a couple weeks ago i had a 4398 02:31:27,750 --> 02:31:25,680 small experience myself without her 4399 02:31:29,270 --> 02:31:27,760 so i don't know how much i can lend to 4400 02:31:30,070 --> 02:31:29,280 this theory but 4401 02:31:32,150 --> 02:31:30,080 so 4402 02:31:33,750 --> 02:31:32,160 we were actually her it was just her and 4403 02:31:35,830 --> 02:31:33,760 i we were going out for one of our 4404 02:31:39,349 --> 02:31:35,840 checkups on that spot 4405 02:31:41,670 --> 02:31:39,359 and right near that is a spot that the 4406 02:31:43,830 --> 02:31:41,680 that the kids like to hang out at the 4407 02:31:46,950 --> 02:31:43,840 river just outside of town here 4408 02:31:48,870 --> 02:31:46,960 and it's a hot spot for bigfoot 4409 02:31:51,190 --> 02:31:48,880 so we like to go out and do like a 4410 02:31:53,270 --> 02:31:51,200 little lap around the area we go out and 4411 02:31:54,950 --> 02:31:53,280 take readings once a while and see how 4412 02:31:56,950 --> 02:31:54,960 things are fluctuating because there's a 4413 02:31:59,270 --> 02:31:56,960 ley line that runs right through there 4414 02:32:02,469 --> 02:31:59,280 and the river seems to charge it 4415 02:32:04,790 --> 02:32:02,479 sometimes and we have these yeah every 4416 02:32:06,230 --> 02:32:04,800 time it gets very very charged we'll 4417 02:32:09,030 --> 02:32:06,240 have a 4418 02:32:11,349 --> 02:32:09,040 a whole cornucopia of weirdness happen 4419 02:32:13,830 --> 02:32:11,359 out there weird cryptids 4420 02:32:14,630 --> 02:32:13,840 bigfoots disappearances 4421 02:32:17,910 --> 02:32:14,640 it's 4422 02:32:19,349 --> 02:32:17,920 crazy um one day maybe i can tell you 4423 02:32:20,630 --> 02:32:19,359 all about that but that'd take a whole 4424 02:32:23,349 --> 02:32:20,640 another show 4425 02:32:24,950 --> 02:32:23,359 um but anyways we were headed out there 4426 02:32:26,710 --> 02:32:24,960 and uh 4427 02:32:28,469 --> 02:32:26,720 i always i'm kind of like the secretary 4428 02:32:31,110 --> 02:32:28,479 of the group i take 4429 02:32:32,550 --> 02:32:31,120 i take notes on everything and i count 4430 02:32:34,469 --> 02:32:32,560 the time 4431 02:32:35,910 --> 02:32:34,479 and every little thing that happens and 4432 02:32:38,710 --> 02:32:35,920 we were running the meters and she was 4433 02:32:40,150 --> 02:32:38,720 driving and she uh was driving us out 4434 02:32:41,510 --> 02:32:40,160 there and we went to go take our first 4435 02:32:44,389 --> 02:32:41,520 turn that would take us down the dirt 4436 02:32:46,790 --> 02:32:44,399 road where that disappearing house was 4437 02:32:48,630 --> 02:32:46,800 and we noticed a jogger and we thought 4438 02:32:49,750 --> 02:32:48,640 it was hilarious because it's dirt roads 4439 02:32:51,190 --> 02:32:49,760 out there and all i could think of is 4440 02:32:53,830 --> 02:32:51,200 like a jogger out here getting all 4441 02:32:56,070 --> 02:32:53,840 sweaty is going to get covered 4442 02:32:58,150 --> 02:32:56,080 in dust from the dirt roads this is 4443 02:32:59,349 --> 02:32:58,160 hilarious and we just made note of him 4444 02:33:01,670 --> 02:32:59,359 because it's not something you usually 4445 02:33:03,429 --> 02:33:01,680 see out that way and we made our turn 4446 02:33:05,590 --> 02:33:03,439 and we ended up at the disappearing 4447 02:33:06,950 --> 02:33:05,600 house spot and we 4448 02:33:08,790 --> 02:33:06,960 ran a 4449 02:33:10,550 --> 02:33:08,800 couple of meters out there and did a 4450 02:33:12,309 --> 02:33:10,560 little bit of work with the rods and got 4451 02:33:14,710 --> 02:33:12,319 some interesting stuff and we were out 4452 02:33:16,309 --> 02:33:14,720 there for maybe a good 30 to 45 minutes 4453 02:33:18,550 --> 02:33:16,319 before we decided to drive down to the 4454 02:33:21,750 --> 02:33:18,560 river to that hot spot 4455 02:33:24,070 --> 02:33:21,760 and uh on our way there you have to go 4456 02:33:26,710 --> 02:33:24,080 through this what used to be a highway 4457 02:33:27,670 --> 02:33:26,720 um but it was rerouted long ago so 4458 02:33:31,590 --> 02:33:27,680 the 4459 02:33:34,070 --> 02:33:31,600 on it and now it's down to basically a 4460 02:33:35,110 --> 02:33:34,080 one lane 4461 02:33:37,590 --> 02:33:35,120 and 4462 02:33:39,190 --> 02:33:37,600 we came around a corner to come up the 4463 02:33:40,150 --> 02:33:39,200 main lane that'll take you down to the 4464 02:33:41,990 --> 02:33:40,160 river 4465 02:33:45,750 --> 02:33:42,000 and there was a truck setting 4466 02:33:47,830 --> 02:33:45,760 in the brush on the side 4467 02:33:50,469 --> 02:33:47,840 which isn't too odd because that area 4468 02:33:51,910 --> 02:33:50,479 down there is used a lot for hunting um 4469 02:33:53,349 --> 02:33:51,920 and we just assumed when we saw the 4470 02:33:55,270 --> 02:33:53,359 pickup truck it was probably somebody 4471 02:33:57,270 --> 02:33:55,280 down there watching for deer to come 4472 02:33:59,349 --> 02:33:57,280 through so they could mark a path 4473 02:34:02,389 --> 02:33:59,359 so they go down later and know where 4474 02:34:04,630 --> 02:34:02,399 they're going to set up at yeah 4475 02:34:07,190 --> 02:34:04,640 he didn't look at us when we went past 4476 02:34:09,349 --> 02:34:07,200 he was looking dead forward 4477 02:34:11,990 --> 02:34:09,359 and we came in front of him and then up 4478 02:34:15,590 --> 02:34:12,000 the side of him and he never once 4479 02:34:16,630 --> 02:34:15,600 flinched or moved he just looked dead 4480 02:34:19,670 --> 02:34:16,640 and i was like well that's a little 4481 02:34:22,550 --> 02:34:19,680 weird and we went down to the river 4482 02:34:24,950 --> 02:34:22,560 and turned off the car and rolled down 4483 02:34:26,950 --> 02:34:24,960 the windows because it was a nice day 4484 02:34:28,790 --> 02:34:26,960 and we kind of noted how quiet it was it 4485 02:34:30,150 --> 02:34:28,800 was very quiet there wasn't any birds 4486 02:34:32,309 --> 02:34:30,160 chirping which was odd because we're in 4487 02:34:34,469 --> 02:34:32,319 a wooded area and you couldn't hear any 4488 02:34:36,870 --> 02:34:34,479 cicadas or bugs which was odd because it 4489 02:34:38,469 --> 02:34:36,880 was summertime 4490 02:34:40,389 --> 02:34:38,479 and we sat there for a while and i 4491 02:34:41,429 --> 02:34:40,399 didn't feel great 4492 02:34:43,190 --> 02:34:41,439 and 4493 02:34:44,790 --> 02:34:43,200 pam decided there was nothing going on 4494 02:34:46,230 --> 02:34:44,800 the meters were dead 4495 02:34:47,990 --> 02:34:46,240 they weren't raiding anything and we 4496 02:34:49,750 --> 02:34:48,000 were like oh there's 4497 02:34:52,230 --> 02:34:49,760 there's nothing going on we sat there 4498 02:34:54,070 --> 02:34:52,240 for maybe 30 minutes and started getting 4499 02:34:55,670 --> 02:34:54,080 hungry and thought let's 4500 02:34:57,349 --> 02:34:55,680 let's finish up we'll head back in town 4501 02:34:58,870 --> 02:34:57,359 and go grab some lunch because it was 4502 02:35:00,230 --> 02:34:58,880 about lunch time 4503 02:35:02,309 --> 02:35:00,240 and so we 4504 02:35:04,870 --> 02:35:02,319 made a circle and headed back out that 4505 02:35:06,710 --> 02:35:04,880 same road and if that damn truck wasn't 4506 02:35:09,030 --> 02:35:06,720 still sitting there 4507 02:35:10,710 --> 02:35:09,040 after 30 minutes with the same guy 4508 02:35:12,309 --> 02:35:10,720 sitting in it in the same position and 4509 02:35:14,230 --> 02:35:12,319 he did the same thing he did before he 4510 02:35:16,469 --> 02:35:14,240 looked straight forward like we weren't 4511 02:35:18,630 --> 02:35:16,479 even going asked him 4512 02:35:20,150 --> 02:35:18,640 i didn't even see him blink 4513 02:35:21,030 --> 02:35:20,160 and it gave me the willies and i was 4514 02:35:22,309 --> 02:35:21,040 like 4515 02:35:24,830 --> 02:35:22,319 let's get the hell out of here i don't 4516 02:35:27,030 --> 02:35:24,840 know what he's watching 4517 02:35:28,710 --> 02:35:27,040 yeah but there's there's no deer passing 4518 02:35:29,990 --> 02:35:28,720 through here in the middle of the day 4519 02:35:32,469 --> 02:35:30,000 this is something he should have done 4520 02:35:33,590 --> 02:35:32,479 early in the morning let's 4521 02:35:38,710 --> 02:35:33,600 go 4522 02:35:40,710 --> 02:35:38,720 place where the house disappears at and 4523 02:35:42,309 --> 02:35:40,720 got back to her original turn where that 4524 02:35:44,870 --> 02:35:42,319 jogger had been 4525 02:35:45,750 --> 02:35:44,880 and that jogger was still there 4526 02:35:47,910 --> 02:35:45,760 about 4527 02:35:49,270 --> 02:35:47,920 20 feet down from where he was when we 4528 02:35:53,190 --> 02:35:49,280 first saw him 4529 02:35:57,590 --> 02:35:55,510 and that time pam was like what the hell 4530 02:35:59,110 --> 02:35:57,600 is he doing was he doing just laps back 4531 02:36:00,710 --> 02:35:59,120 and forth you know she thought maybe he 4532 02:36:02,469 --> 02:36:00,720 was just running up and down the same 4533 02:36:04,630 --> 02:36:02,479 path and we just happened to catch him 4534 02:36:06,230 --> 02:36:04,640 in the same area and she brushed it off 4535 02:36:08,230 --> 02:36:06,240 and i was like whatever 4536 02:36:10,309 --> 02:36:08,240 let's go i'm starving we ended up back 4537 02:36:12,870 --> 02:36:10,319 at her house dropped off meters and 4538 02:36:14,790 --> 02:36:12,880 headed up to a little cafe in caney and 4539 02:36:16,870 --> 02:36:14,800 sat down 4540 02:36:18,389 --> 02:36:16,880 and i had all my notes there and i was i 4541 02:36:19,830 --> 02:36:18,399 was going to sit down and work through 4542 02:36:22,150 --> 02:36:19,840 them while we were waiting for lunch to 4543 02:36:23,750 --> 02:36:22,160 come and kind of make some notes and get 4544 02:36:26,150 --> 02:36:23,760 them set up right 4545 02:36:27,830 --> 02:36:26,160 and i i realized 4546 02:36:30,550 --> 02:36:27,840 that 4547 02:36:32,389 --> 02:36:30,560 we had extra time 4548 02:36:37,030 --> 02:36:32,399 extra time so not lost time you had 4549 02:36:38,710 --> 02:36:37,040 extra time we had extra time the ladies 4550 02:36:40,469 --> 02:36:38,720 looked at us a little funny when we came 4551 02:36:43,270 --> 02:36:40,479 in and it was empty when we came in and 4552 02:36:46,230 --> 02:36:43,280 it was because we thought it was 12 4553 02:36:47,990 --> 02:36:46,240 and it was actually like not even 11 yet 4554 02:36:51,270 --> 02:36:48,000 it wasn't even truly lunch time they 4555 02:36:53,429 --> 02:36:51,280 were still setting up 4556 02:36:57,110 --> 02:36:53,439 that's uh 4557 02:36:58,870 --> 02:36:57,120 wow so i guess i'm trying to like 4558 02:37:00,630 --> 02:36:58,880 this is interesting because normally 4559 02:37:01,990 --> 02:37:00,640 when you hear people having lost time 4560 02:37:03,429 --> 02:37:02,000 right like people have experienced i 4561 02:37:06,070 --> 02:37:03,439 mean i don't know if we have the time to 4562 02:37:07,750 --> 02:37:06,080 tell us about about 10 minutes left here 4563 02:37:09,110 --> 02:37:07,760 with mark and the incident that they had 4564 02:37:11,349 --> 02:37:09,120 no pam was with him when that happened 4565 02:37:13,110 --> 02:37:11,359 too right yes yeah so but in that 4566 02:37:14,790 --> 02:37:13,120 instance time like reset for them so 4567 02:37:15,750 --> 02:37:14,800 even though they had this experience i 4568 02:37:17,190 --> 02:37:15,760 guess we're probably going to tell the 4569 02:37:19,510 --> 02:37:17,200 story i always understood it that 4570 02:37:20,469 --> 02:37:19,520 somehow time like fixed the problem like 4571 02:37:22,469 --> 02:37:20,479 reset 4572 02:37:24,870 --> 02:37:22,479 when someone has the short experience or 4573 02:37:27,750 --> 02:37:24,880 a longer experience but in your case 4574 02:37:28,870 --> 02:37:27,760 you gain time we gain time 4575 02:37:30,389 --> 02:37:28,880 so 4576 02:37:31,990 --> 02:37:30,399 when we went back and really thought 4577 02:37:33,990 --> 02:37:32,000 about it because we were flabbergasted 4578 02:37:35,910 --> 02:37:34,000 for the rest of the day we couldn't even 4579 02:37:37,830 --> 02:37:35,920 we tried to discuss it but there was no 4580 02:37:40,710 --> 02:37:37,840 way to 4581 02:37:42,870 --> 02:37:40,720 put a hold on it to really grasp the 4582 02:37:44,950 --> 02:37:42,880 situation we kind of 4583 02:37:46,790 --> 02:37:44,960 parted ways to really think about it and 4584 02:37:49,670 --> 02:37:46,800 then got back again together later to 4585 02:37:51,190 --> 02:37:49,680 talk about it and we realized because up 4586 02:37:53,990 --> 02:37:51,200 until that point we never put anything 4587 02:37:57,110 --> 02:37:54,000 together with the jogger or the man who 4588 02:37:59,590 --> 02:37:57,120 was sitting out in his truck 4589 02:38:01,510 --> 02:37:59,600 but we finally figured it out 4590 02:38:03,270 --> 02:38:01,520 so 4591 02:38:05,270 --> 02:38:03,280 when we went past the jogger the first 4592 02:38:07,349 --> 02:38:05,280 the jogger was in motion 4593 02:38:10,389 --> 02:38:07,359 but he was right there at the corner 4594 02:38:14,550 --> 02:38:10,399 and we went through our whole bout 4595 02:38:15,510 --> 02:38:14,560 and the trucker never seemed to move 4596 02:38:17,270 --> 02:38:15,520 so 4597 02:38:19,270 --> 02:38:17,280 we are under the assumption because when 4598 02:38:20,870 --> 02:38:19,280 we got back the jogger was just slightly 4599 02:38:22,950 --> 02:38:20,880 down from where he was but he was in 4600 02:38:25,190 --> 02:38:22,960 motion so we're wondering if at some 4601 02:38:26,870 --> 02:38:25,200 point when we crossed 4602 02:38:29,270 --> 02:38:26,880 into the area where the disappearing 4603 02:38:31,349 --> 02:38:29,280 house was 4604 02:38:35,030 --> 02:38:31,359 did we suddenly 4605 02:38:36,870 --> 02:38:35,040 speed up against time 4606 02:38:39,030 --> 02:38:36,880 were we going and fast forward while 4607 02:38:44,070 --> 02:38:39,040 everything else around us was 4608 02:38:49,030 --> 02:38:46,950 because that truck driver never made any 4609 02:38:50,870 --> 02:38:49,040 notion of us being there of us being 4610 02:38:52,630 --> 02:38:50,880 passed and it was dead quiet while we 4611 02:38:55,190 --> 02:38:52,640 were at the river there was no birds 4612 02:38:58,070 --> 02:38:55,200 there was no bugs there was no wind it 4613 02:38:59,349 --> 02:38:58,080 was just dead still 4614 02:39:01,349 --> 02:38:59,359 and i think for anybody that's ever been 4615 02:39:02,790 --> 02:39:01,359 in nature at all but especially when you 4616 02:39:04,389 --> 02:39:02,800 get really out there in nature i mean 4617 02:39:06,230 --> 02:39:04,399 that's just not the case if it's dead 4618 02:39:07,910 --> 02:39:06,240 silent something's wrong you know 4619 02:39:10,070 --> 02:39:07,920 exactly there's gonna be a bigfoot 4620 02:39:12,389 --> 02:39:10,080 sighting or something's gonna happen it 4621 02:39:13,510 --> 02:39:12,399 goes quiet now i would have a question 4622 02:39:14,950 --> 02:39:13,520 for you because i've never i'm not 4623 02:39:16,870 --> 02:39:14,960 familiar with the the equipment and how 4624 02:39:18,389 --> 02:39:16,880 it works if you pull that equipment out 4625 02:39:20,150 --> 02:39:18,399 is there a general base reading it 4626 02:39:21,429 --> 02:39:20,160 should always have does it pick 4627 02:39:23,349 --> 02:39:21,439 something up 4628 02:39:25,750 --> 02:39:23,359 yeah so well it depends on which meter 4629 02:39:29,030 --> 02:39:25,760 you're running so like a like a like a 4630 02:39:31,670 --> 02:39:29,040 k2 meter it's a basic start from zero 4631 02:39:34,070 --> 02:39:31,680 moves up um and it's set at zero so it 4632 02:39:35,030 --> 02:39:34,080 wasn't picking up any emf 4633 02:39:38,550 --> 02:39:35,040 um 4634 02:39:41,510 --> 02:39:38,560 we had a regular uh i think we had two 4635 02:39:43,830 --> 02:39:41,520 or three meters running that read emf we 4636 02:39:45,750 --> 02:39:43,840 like to do multiples because not all of 4637 02:39:47,750 --> 02:39:45,760 them read the same way and it's nice to 4638 02:39:50,790 --> 02:39:47,760 have an all across 4639 02:39:54,150 --> 02:39:50,800 um all of it was just flatlined um even 4640 02:39:56,150 --> 02:39:54,160 the obvious the uh an obvious um has a 4641 02:39:58,710 --> 02:39:56,160 dictionary of words within it and it's 4642 02:40:01,670 --> 02:39:58,720 supposed to pick up emf and 4643 02:40:04,309 --> 02:40:01,680 um spikes in the uh going on around it 4644 02:40:06,550 --> 02:40:04,319 and it transcribes it into 4645 02:40:10,070 --> 02:40:06,560 whichever word it chooses from the 4646 02:40:11,910 --> 02:40:10,080 dictionary so it can kind of talk at you 4647 02:40:13,910 --> 02:40:11,920 i found that 4648 02:40:16,469 --> 02:40:13,920 the words don't actually match up very 4649 02:40:17,349 --> 02:40:16,479 well but it does very well 4650 02:40:19,190 --> 02:40:17,359 uh 4651 02:40:21,190 --> 02:40:19,200 reading signals in the area and will 4652 02:40:22,790 --> 02:40:21,200 pick up on activity 4653 02:40:24,870 --> 02:40:22,800 um 4654 02:40:27,830 --> 02:40:24,880 more often than not i get words out of 4655 02:40:29,429 --> 02:40:27,840 it that aren't in its dictionary 4656 02:40:30,710 --> 02:40:29,439 so that's why it's one of my favorite 4657 02:40:32,150 --> 02:40:30,720 beaters it's 4658 02:40:35,190 --> 02:40:32,160 it's a little crazy 4659 02:40:37,110 --> 02:40:35,200 but even that read nothing um now i will 4660 02:40:37,910 --> 02:40:37,120 say the meters were working when we were 4661 02:40:39,990 --> 02:40:37,920 at 4662 02:40:41,590 --> 02:40:40,000 the disappearing house because we have 4663 02:40:43,030 --> 02:40:41,600 notes from it 4664 02:40:45,670 --> 02:40:43,040 but we never got anything after that and 4665 02:40:46,950 --> 02:40:45,680 we're wondering once we passed that 4666 02:40:49,269 --> 02:40:46,960 house 4667 02:40:51,030 --> 02:40:49,279 did we go into some kind of like it 4668 02:40:55,030 --> 02:40:51,040 reminds me of spaceballs when they went 4669 02:40:57,670 --> 02:40:56,309 you know what i mean 4670 02:40:59,030 --> 02:40:57,680 yeah well that's what tammy even kind of 4671 02:41:00,389 --> 02:40:59,040 brought up she was she said that she was 4672 02:41:02,469 --> 02:41:00,399 like you guys probably look like a ghost 4673 02:41:04,630 --> 02:41:02,479 the jogger in the truck 4674 02:41:07,349 --> 02:41:04,640 exactly like 4675 02:41:10,710 --> 02:41:07,359 how fast were we going to have gained 4676 02:41:13,429 --> 02:41:10,720 that much time it was as if 4677 02:41:15,510 --> 02:41:13,439 in order to have done this in that time 4678 02:41:17,190 --> 02:41:15,520 we would literally have had to driven 4679 02:41:18,790 --> 02:41:17,200 out to probably where the jogger was and 4680 02:41:21,429 --> 02:41:18,800 driven straight back into town and 4681 02:41:23,429 --> 02:41:21,439 straight to the cafe 4682 02:41:25,510 --> 02:41:23,439 because we literally left out just a 4683 02:41:26,870 --> 02:41:25,520 hair before 10. so we literally would 4684 02:41:28,790 --> 02:41:26,880 have just been straight out and straight 4685 02:41:31,830 --> 02:41:28,800 back so you're saying at least that's 4686 02:41:34,070 --> 02:41:31,840 like an hour rough right yeah 4687 02:41:35,910 --> 02:41:34,080 right around an hour a little hair over 4688 02:41:37,750 --> 02:41:35,920 is what we gained 4689 02:41:39,429 --> 02:41:37,760 very interesting which is like and i 4690 02:41:41,269 --> 02:41:39,439 know we only have about four or four or 4691 02:41:42,630 --> 02:41:41,279 five minutes left here but if you want 4692 02:41:44,070 --> 02:41:42,640 would you be open to telling the story 4693 02:41:45,349 --> 02:41:44,080 with mark and pam and that one because 4694 02:41:47,190 --> 02:41:45,359 that the reason i think it's so 4695 02:41:48,710 --> 02:41:47,200 important because this correlation that 4696 02:41:50,710 --> 02:41:48,720 you have this missing well you've gained 4697 02:41:52,950 --> 02:41:50,720 time whereas with mark in them what 4698 02:41:55,190 --> 02:41:52,960 happened to them essentially that day um 4699 02:41:56,950 --> 02:41:55,200 so i'll make it quick um 4700 02:42:00,150 --> 02:41:56,960 we were the four of us were 4701 02:42:02,630 --> 02:42:00,160 investigating uh a 4702 02:42:05,110 --> 02:42:02,640 retirement home uh 4703 02:42:06,790 --> 02:42:05,120 and uh it had been shut down for quite a 4704 02:42:07,670 --> 02:42:06,800 long time and when buildings are like 4705 02:42:10,230 --> 02:42:07,680 that 4706 02:42:12,870 --> 02:42:10,240 we tend to send a couple people in just 4707 02:42:15,510 --> 02:42:12,880 to take base readings and to check for 4708 02:42:17,750 --> 02:42:15,520 uh dangerous spots maybe where floors 4709 02:42:20,230 --> 02:42:17,760 are messed up um looks like ceilings 4710 02:42:22,230 --> 02:42:20,240 falling in just to give a baseline 4711 02:42:25,990 --> 02:42:22,240 general air you know what's going on 4712 02:42:27,830 --> 02:42:26,000 inside um and mark and pam went inside 4713 02:42:30,070 --> 02:42:27,840 together now pam was in a wheelchair at 4714 02:42:33,590 --> 02:42:30,080 the time um she was having some problems 4715 02:42:35,750 --> 02:42:33,600 with her leg um so he was wheeling her 4716 02:42:36,950 --> 02:42:35,760 which actually works great for us we we 4717 02:42:38,630 --> 02:42:36,960 actually don't mind it when she's in her 4718 02:42:40,870 --> 02:42:38,640 wheelchair because she can hold all the 4719 02:42:42,389 --> 02:42:40,880 equipment it's great yeah we call her 4720 02:42:45,190 --> 02:42:42,399 like the ecto one 4721 02:42:47,830 --> 02:42:45,200 when she does that anyways um 4722 02:42:50,550 --> 02:42:47,840 we sent them in and it was um it was 4723 02:42:53,990 --> 02:42:50,560 about an hour or so before sunset 4724 02:42:55,830 --> 02:42:54,000 and uh mike and i the other investigator 4725 02:42:58,070 --> 02:42:55,840 he we stayed out of his truck and was 4726 02:42:59,910 --> 02:42:58,080 prepping um 4727 02:43:01,990 --> 02:42:59,920 equipment for that night because we knew 4728 02:43:03,190 --> 02:43:02,000 there wasn't electricity in this place 4729 02:43:05,590 --> 02:43:03,200 so we knew we were going to have to run 4730 02:43:08,070 --> 02:43:05,600 a lot of stuff off of batteries 4731 02:43:09,910 --> 02:43:08,080 and we got everything done and we still 4732 02:43:11,349 --> 02:43:09,920 hadn't heard from them and we waited and 4733 02:43:13,190 --> 02:43:11,359 we waited and we waited and we waited 4734 02:43:15,030 --> 02:43:13,200 and we waited and still heard nothing 4735 02:43:16,950 --> 02:43:15,040 from them and it started to get dark and 4736 02:43:18,469 --> 02:43:16,960 we started to get concerned because 4737 02:43:19,750 --> 02:43:18,479 usually they should have been out within 4738 02:43:22,469 --> 02:43:19,760 about 4739 02:43:25,590 --> 02:43:22,479 15 30 minutes at the latest 4740 02:43:27,510 --> 02:43:25,600 for this area and we tried to call them 4741 02:43:29,110 --> 02:43:27,520 on their phones and 4742 02:43:30,630 --> 02:43:29,120 it would either go to voicemail or they 4743 02:43:33,510 --> 02:43:30,640 just wouldn't answer 4744 02:43:36,230 --> 02:43:33,520 and we got really concerned then 4745 02:43:37,830 --> 02:43:36,240 so we decided to grab the flashlights 4746 02:43:38,950 --> 02:43:37,840 and head in and see if we couldn't track 4747 02:43:41,269 --> 02:43:38,960 them down 4748 02:43:44,150 --> 02:43:41,279 and when we walked in it was a long 4749 02:43:46,550 --> 02:43:44,160 hallway um it was three 4750 02:43:48,150 --> 02:43:46,560 uh hallways that came off of a main hub 4751 02:43:50,710 --> 02:43:48,160 is how it was set up 4752 02:43:53,269 --> 02:43:50,720 and we got into the end of the first 4753 02:43:55,750 --> 02:43:53,279 hallway and looked towards the hub and 4754 02:43:58,230 --> 02:43:55,760 they were literally just coming into the 4755 02:44:00,230 --> 02:43:58,240 hub as if they were walking on the same 4756 02:44:02,950 --> 02:44:00,240 hallway we were 4757 02:44:05,670 --> 02:44:02,960 and i yelled i was like hey what are you 4758 02:44:06,790 --> 02:44:05,680 doing and they turned around and said 4759 02:44:08,389 --> 02:44:06,800 what 4760 02:44:09,910 --> 02:44:08,399 and we were like 4761 02:44:11,269 --> 02:44:09,920 we were worried about you what have you 4762 02:44:13,590 --> 02:44:11,279 been doing and they were like well we're 4763 02:44:16,150 --> 02:44:13,600 taking the readings like like we said 4764 02:44:17,990 --> 02:44:16,160 and we were like well it's almost dark 4765 02:44:20,630 --> 02:44:18,000 if we don't get started soon we're not 4766 02:44:22,469 --> 02:44:20,640 going to get this investigation done 4767 02:44:24,230 --> 02:44:22,479 and they were like what are you talking 4768 02:44:25,910 --> 02:44:24,240 about we've been in here for like five 4769 02:44:29,510 --> 02:44:25,920 or ten minutes 4770 02:44:31,269 --> 02:44:29,520 like it's freaking dark outside it's 4771 02:44:32,469 --> 02:44:31,279 been over an hour we've been waiting to 4772 02:44:33,830 --> 02:44:32,479 hear from you and we haven't been able 4773 02:44:34,710 --> 02:44:33,840 to talk to you 4774 02:44:38,389 --> 02:44:34,720 and 4775 02:44:40,389 --> 02:44:38,399 mark um had said that that exact moment 4776 02:44:42,469 --> 02:44:40,399 he thought i was full of [\h__\h] talking 4777 02:44:44,389 --> 02:44:42,479 about it being so late and he turned to 4778 02:44:46,710 --> 02:44:44,399 look because the it had some pretty big 4779 02:44:48,150 --> 02:44:46,720 windows in this place especially near 4780 02:44:49,830 --> 02:44:48,160 the hub where the nurse's station and 4781 02:44:51,910 --> 02:44:49,840 stuff was and he said he turned and 4782 02:44:54,469 --> 02:44:51,920 looked and what had been dark just a 4783 02:44:57,030 --> 02:44:54,479 moment earlier or i mean was light 4784 02:44:58,389 --> 02:44:57,040 earlier was perfectly dark 4785 02:45:00,070 --> 02:44:58,399 yeah 4786 02:45:01,110 --> 02:45:00,080 so 4787 02:45:05,910 --> 02:45:01,120 i mean 4788 02:45:10,309 --> 02:45:08,309 when you really think about 4789 02:45:11,750 --> 02:45:10,319 that process of for that i'm thinking 4790 02:45:12,950 --> 02:45:11,760 for them for you yeah it was weird 4791 02:45:15,510 --> 02:45:12,960 because they were missing but for them 4792 02:45:17,510 --> 02:45:15,520 to be like that moment of light was just 4793 02:45:19,349 --> 02:45:17,520 there and now my reality is oh it's it's 4794 02:45:21,110 --> 02:45:19,359 not it's gone 4795 02:45:23,590 --> 02:45:21,120 yeah it was it was a complete shift for 4796 02:45:25,269 --> 02:45:23,600 them and it it messed mark up pretty 4797 02:45:26,870 --> 02:45:25,279 good for a little while um that place 4798 02:45:28,710 --> 02:45:26,880 was also pretty bad on him and some 4799 02:45:30,870 --> 02:45:28,720 other aspects of which we don't have 4800 02:45:31,750 --> 02:45:30,880 time to go into but it was a crazy place 4801 02:45:33,510 --> 02:45:31,760 but 4802 02:45:35,190 --> 02:45:33,520 yeah uh 4803 02:45:37,510 --> 02:45:35,200 they have no idea where that time went 4804 02:45:39,190 --> 02:45:37,520 they said they literally walked in and 4805 02:45:40,389 --> 02:45:39,200 kind of went they went a little slow 4806 02:45:42,469 --> 02:45:40,399 because they were taking baseline 4807 02:45:44,389 --> 02:45:42,479 readings with the meters and kind of 4808 02:45:46,230 --> 02:45:44,399 looking everywhere trying to see 4809 02:45:47,750 --> 02:45:46,240 where everything was at where were the 4810 02:45:50,230 --> 02:45:47,760 rooms 4811 02:45:51,830 --> 02:45:50,240 and they had just made it to that hub so 4812 02:45:53,750 --> 02:45:51,840 they're guessing maybe 10 minutes had 4813 02:45:55,670 --> 02:45:53,760 passed 4814 02:45:57,429 --> 02:45:55,680 and then here we came yelling at them 4815 02:45:59,190 --> 02:45:57,439 what are you doing why are you taking so 4816 02:46:02,389 --> 02:45:59,200 long and they're you know it's been like 4817 02:46:04,950 --> 02:46:02,399 10 minutes what what 4818 02:46:07,590 --> 02:46:04,960 and then to look over and see 4819 02:46:09,349 --> 02:46:07,600 that what was once fully lit windows was 4820 02:46:11,510 --> 02:46:09,359 now pitch black 4821 02:46:13,830 --> 02:46:11,520 that'll mess with you 4822 02:46:15,910 --> 02:46:13,840 um yeah that place had some other 4823 02:46:18,070 --> 02:46:15,920 oddities going on with it um the one 4824 02:46:19,670 --> 02:46:18,080 thing that really drove mark nuts the 4825 02:46:21,990 --> 02:46:19,680 whole time uh 4826 02:46:22,950 --> 02:46:22,000 he had to go every room because it was 4827 02:46:24,389 --> 02:46:22,960 it was 4828 02:46:25,429 --> 02:46:24,399 a retirement 4829 02:46:27,510 --> 02:46:25,439 home 4830 02:46:29,190 --> 02:46:27,520 every room had um those little 4831 02:46:30,630 --> 02:46:29,200 dispensers on the walls that would 4832 02:46:32,230 --> 02:46:30,640 automatically shoot out the little 4833 02:46:33,269 --> 02:46:32,240 deodorizer 4834 02:46:35,110 --> 02:46:33,279 once 4835 02:46:37,030 --> 02:46:35,120 you know to kind of keep it smelling 4836 02:46:39,030 --> 02:46:37,040 fresh i would suppose 4837 02:46:42,309 --> 02:46:39,040 now this building hadn't been used in 4838 02:46:43,830 --> 02:46:42,319 like over five years it had been 4839 02:46:45,349 --> 02:46:43,840 it had lit they had literally just 4840 02:46:46,710 --> 02:46:45,359 walked out on it 4841 02:46:49,510 --> 02:46:46,720 um 4842 02:46:52,550 --> 02:46:49,520 and those ran off of batteries 4843 02:46:54,309 --> 02:46:52,560 and they were still running 4844 02:46:57,590 --> 02:46:54,319 how long has this place been shut down 4845 02:46:58,710 --> 02:46:57,600 at this point five years 4846 02:47:00,790 --> 02:46:58,720 wow 4847 02:47:03,990 --> 02:47:00,800 five years standard batteries like not 4848 02:47:05,990 --> 02:47:04,000 standard batteries and it was the it got 4849 02:47:07,910 --> 02:47:06,000 him first it scared the jesus out of him 4850 02:47:09,670 --> 02:47:07,920 what it did he was in a room taking a 4851 02:47:11,269 --> 02:47:09,680 baseline reading and walked past one and 4852 02:47:13,269 --> 02:47:11,279 it shot at him 4853 02:47:14,950 --> 02:47:13,279 it still had deodorizer in it and it 4854 02:47:16,389 --> 02:47:14,960 wasn't one of those where it's triggered 4855 02:47:19,269 --> 02:47:16,399 by motion 4856 02:47:20,710 --> 02:47:19,279 yeah they and you could hear them going 4857 02:47:22,230 --> 02:47:20,720 off in the building which is really 4858 02:47:23,910 --> 02:47:22,240 creepy because the building had no 4859 02:47:25,510 --> 02:47:23,920 electricity to it and it hadn't for a 4860 02:47:28,389 --> 02:47:25,520 couple of years they'd literally shut 4861 02:47:30,870 --> 02:47:28,399 the main line they cut the main line 4862 02:47:32,870 --> 02:47:30,880 to the building it hadn't had 4863 02:47:35,830 --> 02:47:32,880 electricity in years but you can sit 4864 02:47:38,230 --> 02:47:35,840 there in the quiet and listen to these 4865 02:47:39,910 --> 02:47:38,240 damn dispensers go off 4866 02:47:41,750 --> 02:47:39,920 and mark literally went into every room 4867 02:47:43,190 --> 02:47:41,760 he could get into where he had found one 4868 02:47:45,349 --> 02:47:43,200 and pulled the batteries out of it 4869 02:47:46,830 --> 02:47:45,359 because it was driving him insane 4870 02:47:50,550 --> 02:47:46,840 he was like how the 4871 02:47:51,830 --> 02:47:50,560 hell right dude dispensers that i mean 4872 02:47:54,230 --> 02:47:51,840 they're just you can hear them they're 4873 02:47:55,190 --> 02:47:54,240 dispensing like once every 15 minutes or 4874 02:47:57,110 --> 02:47:55,200 so 4875 02:47:59,269 --> 02:47:57,120 they spurt and there's one in every room 4876 02:48:02,070 --> 02:47:59,279 and they're all still going after five 4877 02:48:03,349 --> 02:48:02,080 years how do they even have deodorizers 4878 02:48:04,870 --> 02:48:03,359 still in them 4879 02:48:06,550 --> 02:48:04,880 yeah 4880 02:48:09,429 --> 02:48:06,560 and that was another oddity we thought 4881 02:48:11,670 --> 02:48:09,439 is that part of this place is it living 4882 02:48:12,630 --> 02:48:11,680 in its own bubble 4883 02:48:14,389 --> 02:48:12,640 right 4884 02:48:16,230 --> 02:48:14,399 this is why so people are asking for 4885 02:48:17,269 --> 02:48:16,240 sure guys i'm sorry to cut it out like 4886 02:48:18,950 --> 02:48:17,279 to end it because i've been going for 4887 02:48:20,070 --> 02:48:18,960 about three hours 4888 02:48:21,910 --> 02:48:20,080 but um 4889 02:48:23,510 --> 02:48:21,920 they def we're definitely gonna if ben 4890 02:48:25,510 --> 02:48:23,520 and joe are for it if jess is up for it 4891 02:48:27,750 --> 02:48:25,520 uh people are asking can there be a part 4892 02:48:29,590 --> 02:48:27,760 two of jess um 100 because they're like 4893 02:48:30,950 --> 02:48:29,600 louis you have questions about uh i 4894 02:48:32,550 --> 02:48:30,960 would put up the wrong one about 4895 02:48:34,950 --> 02:48:32,560 alternate dimensions guys we have a lot 4896 02:48:36,790 --> 02:48:34,960 we could go into um so jess if you're up 4897 02:48:38,070 --> 02:48:36,800 for it we'd love to have you back i'd 4898 02:48:39,590 --> 02:48:38,080 love to have you back on again because i 4899 02:48:41,190 --> 02:48:39,600 know we didn't get to touch the 4900 02:48:43,429 --> 02:48:41,200 paranormal aspect of things in all your 4901 02:48:44,630 --> 02:48:43,439 research that way so other one other 4902 02:48:46,150 --> 02:48:44,640 real quick thing i believe i already 4903 02:48:47,590 --> 02:48:46,160 asked you this before and i believe you 4904 02:48:49,429 --> 02:48:47,600 said you don't currently have anything 4905 02:48:52,630 --> 02:48:49,439 out but tammy was asking do you have a 4906 02:48:55,030 --> 02:48:52,640 website that anybody could reach out to 4907 02:48:57,429 --> 02:48:55,040 and look at that way 4908 02:48:58,550 --> 02:48:57,439 a website for our paranormal group uh i 4909 02:49:00,790 --> 02:48:58,560 think she was asking about for you are a 4910 02:49:02,309 --> 02:49:00,800 way to get maybe contact i know like 4911 02:49:04,389 --> 02:49:02,319 facebook or anything like that i know 4912 02:49:05,910 --> 02:49:04,399 you have obviously this we have this 4913 02:49:08,469 --> 02:49:05,920 going on um 4914 02:49:11,429 --> 02:49:08,479 yeah so anybody could get in touch with 4915 02:49:12,389 --> 02:49:11,439 us through the border town page sck 4916 02:49:14,630 --> 02:49:12,399 bordertown 4917 02:49:16,550 --> 02:49:14,640 paranormal society if you want to get in 4918 02:49:18,230 --> 02:49:16,560 touch with me directly 4919 02:49:20,389 --> 02:49:18,240 i have my own facebook page and it's 4920 02:49:21,750 --> 02:49:20,399 just my it's just a basic facebook page 4921 02:49:23,349 --> 02:49:21,760 it's got my family stuff on it but 4922 02:49:24,469 --> 02:49:23,359 you're always welcome to contact me 4923 02:49:26,870 --> 02:49:24,479 there 4924 02:49:29,269 --> 02:49:26,880 and that's under jessica 4925 02:49:31,269 --> 02:49:29,279 harrington with an e 4926 02:49:32,550 --> 02:49:31,279 holmen 4927 02:49:35,510 --> 02:49:32,560 um 4928 02:49:36,790 --> 02:49:35,520 and uh i also have my art page up and 4929 02:49:38,830 --> 02:49:36,800 you're always welcome to go look at that 4930 02:49:41,429 --> 02:49:38,840 and that's under curious 4931 02:49:43,990 --> 02:49:41,439 relics heck yeah and you can get a hold 4932 02:49:45,750 --> 02:49:44,000 of me through any of those um 4933 02:49:47,830 --> 02:49:45,760 i'd love to chat with anybody about that 4934 02:49:48,550 --> 02:49:47,840 kind of stuff it's it's what i like to 4935 02:49:52,550 --> 02:49:48,560 do 4936 02:49:54,150 --> 02:49:52,560 because i get to hear all these 4937 02:49:56,150 --> 02:49:54,160 like-minded people or even people that 4938 02:49:58,950 --> 02:49:56,160 have ideas i've never thought of and i'm 4939 02:50:01,830 --> 02:49:58,960 like ooh how can i integrate that in 4940 02:50:03,349 --> 02:50:01,840 or how is it proving me wrong so let's 4941 02:50:04,790 --> 02:50:03,359 take another route 4942 02:50:06,469 --> 02:50:04,800 i actually i like it when people prove 4943 02:50:09,670 --> 02:50:06,479 me wrong or they come up with some 4944 02:50:11,190 --> 02:50:09,680 fantastic new way to spin it 4945 02:50:12,550 --> 02:50:11,200 so 4946 02:50:13,990 --> 02:50:12,560 well we want to thank everybody in the 4947 02:50:16,070 --> 02:50:14,000 chat for coming and hanging out with us 4948 02:50:18,150 --> 02:50:16,080 tonight guys um 4949 02:50:19,830 --> 02:50:18,160 we'll make sure we have jess back on i 4950 02:50:22,870 --> 02:50:19,840 promise i know a lot of us are going to 4951 02:50:23,990 --> 02:50:22,880 roll on over to uh spaced out radio and 4952 02:50:25,590 --> 02:50:24,000 i know lynn wellington will be going 4953 02:50:27,429 --> 02:50:25,600 live there tonight i think with tua 4954 02:50:28,710 --> 02:50:27,439 snyder if i'm not killing her name i 4955 02:50:30,150 --> 02:50:28,720 think that's the right name and they'll 4956 02:50:31,830 --> 02:50:30,160 be talking about what are they talking 4957 02:50:33,830 --> 02:50:31,840 tonight i think they're going into uh is 4958 02:50:35,429 --> 02:50:33,840 that a witch grave and other symmetry 4959 02:50:37,429 --> 02:50:35,439 and symbols so they're also digging into 4960 02:50:39,349 --> 02:50:37,439 symmetry and symbols tonight so 4961 02:50:40,710 --> 02:50:39,359 heck yeah we'll roll into that and for 4962 02:50:41,990 --> 02:50:40,720 anybody else that wants to reach out to 4963 02:50:43,269 --> 02:50:42,000 her like they said 4964 02:50:45,750 --> 02:50:43,279 we can find her on facebook you can 4965 02:50:47,110 --> 02:50:45,760 message her she's also you know the same 4966 02:50:48,389 --> 02:50:47,120 that way and if you need to reach out to 4967 02:50:50,950 --> 02:50:48,399 me i also i think i put it up at the 4968 02:50:52,870 --> 02:50:50,960 bottom but it's just uh oh crap i i 4969 02:50:55,110 --> 02:50:52,880 didn't even memorize it what is my email 4970 02:50:58,230 --> 02:50:55,120 let me look at it what is it it is big 4971 02:50:59,190 --> 02:50:58,240 willy at ufo garage podcast.com if you 4972 02:51:00,710 --> 02:50:59,200 guys want to be on the show on the 4973 02:51:02,550 --> 02:51:00,720 weekend here or you want to be on joe 4974 02:51:04,070 --> 02:51:02,560 and ben please feel free to reach out 4975 02:51:04,870 --> 02:51:04,080 and you can you guys can support the 4976 02:51:07,190 --> 02:51:04,880 show 4977 02:51:11,269 --> 02:51:07,200 obviously over at um 4978 02:51:14,469 --> 02:51:12,469 we want to thank you guys for hanging 4979 02:51:15,990 --> 02:51:14,479 out with us tonight jess i want to thank 4980 02:51:17,670 --> 02:51:16,000 you especially for coming on and hanging 4981 02:51:18,950 --> 02:51:17,680 out with me and trying to dig into some 4982 02:51:20,550 --> 02:51:18,960 of the cern stuff which i feel like we 4983 02:51:22,070 --> 02:51:20,560 again i feel like we always just scratch 4984 02:51:22,950 --> 02:51:22,080 the surface every time i cover something 4985 02:51:25,110 --> 02:51:22,960 i'm like 4986 02:51:27,030 --> 02:51:25,120 there's more we gotta we didn't we 4987 02:51:29,269 --> 02:51:27,040 didn't get it all but we certainly tried 4988 02:51:31,750 --> 02:51:29,279 our best tonight so guys this has been 4989 02:51:34,950 --> 02:51:31,760 amazing um and i always end the show 4990 02:51:37,950 --> 02:51:34,960 telling people to stay curious and keep 4991 02:51:53,270 --> 02:51:37,960 it weird